China Plans Superheavy Rocket, Ups Reliability

hackingbear writes: China is conducting preliminary research on a super-heavy launch vehicle that will be used in its manned missions to the moon. Liang Xiaohong, deputy head of the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, disclosed that the Long March-9 is planned to have a maximum payload of 130 tons and its first launch will take place around 2028, comparable to U.S.'s SLS Block II in terms of capability and likely beating its schedule. The China National Space Administration has started preliminary research for the Mars exploration program and is persuading the government to include the project into the country's space agenda, according to Tian Yulong, secretary-general of the administration. Separately, China's Long March series of rockets completed its 200th flight on Dec 7. It took 37 years for the Long March series to complete their first 100 flights, but only 7 years for the second 100 flights. In addition, the programclaims (link in Chinese) a success rate of 98%, on par with E.U.'s and beating U.S.'s 97% and Russia's 93% success rates.

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China is not in space competition

[Taco Cowboy]

Although China is no more my country, I was born there. As an ethnic Chinese I understand the Chinese mentality --- that in this "space race" thing China's stance is to take one firm step at a time, no matter what others are doing

And it is evidenced in China's approach on its space program so far. China always takes its own sweet time in launching whatever they have launched. They seemed to be in no hurry at all and they seemed to be oblivious to whatever others are doing

The Japanese have launched space mission to collect comet dust

The Europeans have landed a probe on a comet

The Americans have been to many corners of the Solar System, with two of its space crafts actually outside of the perimeter already

Even the Indians have sent their space craft, and as we speak, speeding closer and closer towards planet Mars

China? Well... They tried once to hitch a hike on a Russian mission to Mars but that thing failed miserably. After that, no more mission until China can send one up by their own

So far, China prefers to stick to their space station mission and their moon mission. Nothing else matter

That's the Chinese way of doing things - gonna learn to crawl before learning to walk before learning to run

Re:By 2028, lol.

[Applehu Akbar]

Oh, and it also helps to have a government heavy with former engineers, rather than former lawyers.

That happened back in the 1970's

[Taco Cowboy]

... and I learned twice already from chinese expats in the west that their kids found the supposedly excellent local western schools too simple ...

I came from China, landed on the US soil as a refugee

When I left China I was in my mid teen. The last school I attended in China (regular school) was something equivalent of a junior-high of the United States, and at the time I left, China's society was in a totally chaotic state, and the schools I attended were also upside down in terms of "teaching/learning"

But still, when I landed on the US soil, at first I was enrolled in an American high school (I knew almost nothing in English, except the A-Z alphabet and simple "Yes/No/Thank you") but when it came to math, it was, to me, totally ridiculous

In the American high school the math they were doing I did it in my primary school, in my 3rd and 4th year, as a matter of fact

After I got my English straightened out, I got into a community college, and even then, in the freshman and sophomore years (the first two years of my university life I studied in community college) the math they taught there was still lower than what I had (in "junior high") back in China, and I ain't talking about simple business math course either, as I was aiming for a science stream, so the math courses I was taking were things like Calculus, Advanced Calculus, and so forth

And yes, that was back in the 1970's, and even back then, the school standard of the United States was already lower than that of China

Today, the gap between the school standard in Asia, specifically those in Korea, China, Singapore, Japan and that of the West, specifically the U. S. of A. has grown wider, much wider

If the West do not improve, in a generation or two (give or take 50 years) Asia will lead the world in Science and Math