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MIT Removes Online Physics Lectures and Courses By Walter Lewin

jIyajbe writes MIT is indefinitely removing retired physics faculty member Walter Lewin's online lectures from MIT OpenCourseWare and online MITx courses from edX, the online learning platform co-founded by MIT, following a determination that Dr. Lewin engaged in online sexual harassment in violation of MIT policies. For an example of Lewin's colorful style, see this YouTube video. MIT has also revoked Lewin's title as professor emeritus, after the school determined that he "had sexually harassed at least one student online."

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  1. Just wondering... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What does the professor's "on-line harassment" have to do with the quality and / or value of his lectures?

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    1. Re:Just wondering... by idontgno · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He isn't an unperson until all his work goes into the memory hole. That is doubleplusungood.

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    2. Re:Just wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nothing at all. I'm sure a little Photoshop work will remove him from any official photos as well. We have always been at war with Eurasia.

    3. Re:Just wondering... by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What does the professor's "on-line harassment" have to do with the quality and / or value of his lectures?

      Because of public scrutiny, which often makes about as much sense as arguments between a 3-year old and their stuffed animals during a tea party.

      Somehow the sharing of educational materials was acceptable yesterday, but today they are tainted because the school does not want to appear to support a sexual predator.

      So instead, an educational institution will censor their own educational materials.

      Makes perfect sense, according to the public.

    4. Re:Just wondering... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

      which often makes about as much sense as arguments between a 3-year old and their stuffed animals during a tea party.

      I'm 51 and find that my stuffed animals can often be quite cogent. Sometimes a parent must simply resort to "because I said so". Also, it helps to stick with decaf tea - especially for the carnivores and animals that spook easily. A hopped-up, jittery, stampeding rhinoceros ruins everyone's day. Then you may have to dart him, etc...

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    5. Re:Just wondering... by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Assuming the policies he was judged by are sane (doubtful in today's climate) and the accuser isn't lying (always questionable in guilty-until-proven-innocent systems), sure, but knowledge is knowledge. If the lectures are solid, they should stay up.

    6. Re:Just wondering... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That was my argument in the last discussion about the twin experiments. Schutstaffel scientists did a bunch of experiments on Jews and gained a lot of medical data; someone informed me that using such data would be unethical, as it is disrespectful to the victims and their survivors.

      My response was that we should just take the results of the experiments, and burn the people who actually performed the experiments in a giant oven. Anyone who suppresses life-saving knowledge should have those same experiments performed on them, so that they can experience what they have made others experience: if you have medical knowledge useful to stop some horrible disease, and you suppress it, someone is going to suffer that horrible disease because you are an asshole, and so you should be punished for bringing harm and suffering and death upon the innocent.

      It makes sense. Some people did bad things, and they should be executed for those bad things. We learned things from those bad things, but the things we learned are not the cause of those bad things.

      So this dude fucked some schoolgirls. So what? Fire him. Did his course material fuck any schoolgirls? No? Then keep that.

    7. Re:Just wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What does the professor's "on-line harassment" have to do with the quality and / or value of his lectures?

      This is a modern university. Any charge by a female, minority, or homosexual/transgendered/multi-gendered/selective-gendered student that you did anything they find offensive automatically makes you worse than Hitler. No trial needed. No defense allowed. Straight to banishment, OPPRESSOR!

    8. Re:Just wondering... by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's a difference between his questionable social behavior and his academic work (which doesn't seem to be in doubt). The problem with Mengele c.s. was that their scientific conduct was abhorrent and with it any scientific results.

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    9. Re:Just wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somehow the sharing of educational materials was acceptable yesterday, but today they are tainted because the school does not want to appear to support a sexual predator.

      Or it could be because they were supporting a sexual predator. According to the linked articles, he was harassing students that were taking classes and contacting him about his lectures. The last linked article said they removed him because they did not want to funnel any more students into contacting him and using trust they had for him agains them. This is more about not letting a teacher who is a sexual predator of his students be allowed to teach any more because as long as his lectures were up and students were using them, he was a teacher with a habit of using that position to gain their trust.

  2. Sexual Harassment shouldn't cost us knowledge by Saysys · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sexual Harassment shouldn't cost us knowledge. It's disgusting that we're loosing the benefits of this amazing pedagogue simply because someone was offended by something he said to someone online.

    This is total bullshit.

  3. Please by forrie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems like a harsh knee-jerk reaction, ostensibly to protect the public image of MIT. Taking down this content, stripping someone of a title -- removing a man's body of legitimate work that benefits the greater masses is a ridiculously absurd measure. What does MIT think they will gain from this, other than saving face.

    And he allegedly harassed someone online -- that's all I've heard. Maybe he had a nip before bed and was just a little frustrated, we have no context -- who cares? Lots of people say a lot of things online that are far worse.

    Give us all, and this professor, a friggen break MIT.

  4. Perhaps we should throw out the transistor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After all, the transistor was invented by William Shockley, a proponent of Eugenics.

  5. Re:Creating more victims by Fwipp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It also sends a really clear message: "This behavior will not be tolerated." If sexual harassment causes your name and work to be disgraced - that's a pretty strong deterrent to people in academia.

    So if you're considering the aggregate effect, you've also got to consider the aggregate improvement in the lives of students who now face less harassment and can learn in a less hostile environment.

  6. P.C. hurts society and this is just an example by bussdriver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now we've become so extreme that the Universities that were guardians of free thinking have become the thought police and tools for censorship. Aiding vengeance of the political elite (corporations being some of the biggest but that's another topic) upon students it should be defending... I'm specifically thinking of Aaron Swartz where MIT was not an innocent party. Sounds far more governmental than like how a University should function, doesn't it??

    I don't care if he was a rapist or serial killer! Where is the philosophy department when you need it?? (The only practical thing they are good for is defending freedom; aside from teaching.) Lets throw out everything NASA ever did under Wernher von Braun because he was a Nazi! If you only forbid work done during the "crime" then you have to throw out all the rocketry work he did for Germany and that kind of thinking would have had him completely passed over for working for NASA at all (because they'd not know his credentials since that info would have gone down the memory hole.)

    People now are so fragile they can't even hear unpleasant news. I've been in hostile environments and was severely bullied so naturally most the stuff I see people complain about looks like pathetic wimps wanting attention as victims... appealing to the self righteous egotism of others looking to compensate / cover for their own hypocrisy which they are unable to face (because that again would be unpleasant... no wonder people want drugs over actual therapy!)

    Being gay was a crime and to most people it's still a horrible sin against god. That didn't stop computer science; but today one has to wonder if those attitudes prevailed today how much we'd be set back?

  7. Professor Harasses Student by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The alleged victim was a female student in one of his online courses (and she claims he did the same to other students), so he could possibly have held a positifof power over her. Completion of the courses results in a certificate but zero academic credit, and MIT has bragged that thousands enroll in the courses, so the amount of leverage he could have had over her is questionable. But if he was using this MIT program at all to try to pick up women then that is wrong, and it makes sense for MIT to put a stop to it. We don't know exactly what he was doing unless we can read the correspondence in question.

    Most headlines make it sound like he "harassed" strangers online. No, it's a professor allegedly harassing one of his students, and it's not all that special if he did it "over the internet."

    1. Re:Professor Harasses Student by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and it's not all that special if he did it "over the internet."

      That's good enough for the Patent Office...

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  8. Professor Harasses Student by Kunedog · · Score: 5, Informative

    The alleged victim was a female student in one of his online courses (and she claims he did the same to other students), so he could possibly have held a positifof power over her. Completion of the courses results in a certificate but zero academic credit, and MIT has bragged that thousands enroll in the courses, so the amount of leverage he could have had over her is questionable. But if he was using this MIT program at all to try to pick up women then that is wrong, and it makes sense for MIT to put a stop to it. We don't know exactly what he was doing unless we can read the correspondence in question. Most headlines make it sound like he "harassed" strangers online. No, it's a professor allegedly harassing one of his students, and it's not all that special if he did it "over the internet."

  9. Re:Choices. by Pieroxy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These people have made fools of all who applauded them in the past

    No they haven't. People applauded him because he was brilliant onstage giving physics lectures, not because they thought his sex life was exemplary. Nobody is perfect, and I'm sure we most of us have secrets that we wouldn't want anyone to know about. His were just worse. His physics lectures are still as good as they were yesterday.