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Are the TSA's New Electronic Device Screenings Necessary?

First time accepted submitter Amanda Parker writes In July the US warned of a terrorism risk which led countries, such as France and the UK, to step up their security screening for flights to the US. Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson directed the TSA to implement enhanced security measures. In his statement on 6 July, Johnson warned that passengers could also be asked to "power up some devices, including cell phones" and stated that "powerless devices will not be permitted on board the aircraft". In light of the US Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) recent tightening of airport security to include stricter screening of electronic devices, is the TSA right to be cautious or have its actions caused unnecessary hassle for passengers?

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  1. Betteridge says by Livius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...no.

    I'm surprise they still bother to pretend that all that homeland 'security' theatre has anything to do with security.

    1. Re:Betteridge says by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I remember when Americans thought pre-WWII German security was outrageous. Papieren, bitte (Papers, please)!

      Americans were proud that they could go anywhere they wanted without being stopped and harassed or even asked who they were, and made fun of those not so lucky.

      These days, if Americans were only asked for papers, they would be confused.
      It has become a land of chickenshit cowards who shiver in fear, and behave like cattle being prodded.

      No, the terrorists have not won, but we have lost far more than what the terrorists could have hoped for: Our hearts.

  2. Redundant Question by IonOtter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Are the TSA's New Electronic Device Screenings Necessary?"

    Reformat the question: "Is TSA Necessary?"

    Now you have a question worth asking.

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  3. Re:Already too much hassle by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Grabbing at my balls and pushing me into a microwave oven isn't really what I call laying out the welcome mat. But hey, it's your country.

    A turkey posting on Slashdot? Maybe you should just visit with vegetarians.

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  4. device boot up won't stop terrorists by kesuki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i have a postage sized mp3 player from china with a tf/sd card slot it boots up shows a menued screen and plays mp3s. a fake phone that has a plastic explosive bomb could easily use a 'fake' power on screen with menu and the menus would be browsable and possibly functional and also be a bomb.

    so no this doesn't make airplanes safer.

    1. Re:device boot up won't stop terrorists by fuzza · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Likewise, I spent 2 weeks overseas with the MD of a gold mining company. Among many other tales, he asserted that it would be simple to replace up to 2/3 of a laptop battery with enough explosive to bring down a plane, and still have plenty of power left to operationally boot the laptop to Windows login if required...

      He also said that the scanners frequently pick up residue on his shoes from chemicals used on the mine site (eg arsenic, not to mention explosives), so someone could easily use that as an alibi.

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  5. (In that Counter Strike voice) Terrorists Win by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Riddle me this: Has the TSA ever done anything to actually make anything more secure? I've never seen an example of the TSA catch any attempt. I've heard of passengers catching people who made it through TSA screening. I've seen people carry pocket knives on aircraft after going through that retarded microwave scanner. I've heard of Air Marshals stoping people.

    Not once have I heard of the TSA doing anything useful.

    On the other hand, the terrorists pretty much did exactly what they said they were going to do, make our lives more difficult and made people feel less secure. Of course they didn't make people feel less secure, the TSA makes us feel less secure.

    Israel doesn't do the silly bullshit that the TSA does, yet they catch more people trying to blow them up and actually have a daily threat from their next door neighbors. Of course they also care more about being effective than security theatre to make certain friends of politicians rich or bullshit faux political correctness. They do intelligent profiling, and no that doesn't just mean go after the guys with brown skin, for obvious reasons.

    If I can get enough explosive or poison into an iPhone to be effective, making the screen light up isn't going to be that difficult. A laptop? Give me a break, trivial to fake.

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  6. TSA Has Been Useless Since The Beginning by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is the TSA right to be cautious or have its actions caused unnecessary hassle for passengers?

    The TSA has done about ten billion screenings since its inception. They have caught zero terrorists. They have missed three. All three failed, for reasons completely unrelated to TSA. TSA screenings are ineffective and unnecessary. This has been apparent for years, this story is just one more bit of security theater. TSA panders to the terror that is the terrorists' only weapon when we should be fighting it.

    1. Re:TSA Has Been Useless Since The Beginning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now now, they've made BILLIONS of dollars for somebody. That can't possibly be useless!

  7. Re:that pre dates 9/11. laptops from late 90's for by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    being asked to power up devices is not new at all. I had to power up my laptop on a flight sometime Fall 1998.

    Yea but after 9/11 and all the reviews of airport security the "power on your devices" thing was dropped because at the time all the experts said it was useless.

    And yet here we are today.... I'm just waiting for the day when you have to ship all your luggage a day ahead of travel and fly in paper hospital gowns.

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  8. Absolutely. by man_ls · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once everyone is used to this, they'll introduce "limited content inspections" to ensure devices don't contain "Terrorist materials" before boarding. Any device which the passenger refuses to unlock and hand over for inspection won't be permitted to fly.

  9. Re: TSA is unnecessary by smaddox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sealing the cockpit is necessary. Random bomb sniffing dogs is a great idea. Pretty much all of the rest is extraneous.

  10. Domestic flying in Australia does it well. by Harlequin80 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Domestic flying in Australia is almost like catching a train. I often do flights from Brisbane to Sydney as a commute - down in the morning, back in the evening. I book online, and check-in online. Then on the day of the flight I usually arrive 40 minutes before departure time, walk in, throw my carry-on on the scanner conveyor pick it up the other side and be sat at the gate with 15 minutes to spare before the gate closes 20 minutes before departure. Total time from walking in the airport door to the gate, 5-7 minutes.

    When it comes to boarding I just hand the person at the gate my home printed boarding pass. Done. No ID required. No groping, no pat downs, no real queue. Worst case scenario is I time coming out of the xray process at the wrong time and get held up for another minute by the guy who swabs my bag for explosives residue.

    To be honest the only reason I give myself that much of a window to get there is because unlike trains they don't let you get on the next one if your miss yours.

  11. Do they have spare batteries? by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My old laptop had a dead battery. It only worked when plugged in. That doesn't mean I didn't still travel with it. It was still useful to me at my destination. Company policy won't let me check it in luggage.
    Also, I work for a company that deals with healthcare and there is Protected Healthcare Information on my laptop. Do I need to carry HIPAA releases with me so that I can have them sign before looking at my laptop? Also, corporate policy forbids me to allow anyone else to operate my laptop, as does probably 90% of other companies in America.

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    1. Re:Do they have spare batteries? by pete6677 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why on earth are you traveling with HIPAA regulated data on your laptop? Is that truly necessary?

  12. The Big secret to getting YOUR Luggage Safely by laurencetux · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://deviating.net/firearms/... Airlines really really REALLY do not want to lose a bag with a "gun" in it. and just for a Chapter and Verse copy of this see http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-in... so if you are traveling with valuables (nice costumes of some sort??) slip a pistol into the bag (and properly declare same).