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Ford Ditches Microsoft Partnership On Sync, Goes With QNX
Freshly Exhumed writes: Ford's in-car infotainment system known as Sync will soon evolve to add a capacitive touch screen, better integration with smartphone apps and, eventually, support for Android Auto and Apple CarPlay in version 3, thanks to a switch of operating systems. After years of teaming with Microsoft, the automobile giant has switched to BlackBerry's QNX, a real time operating system renowned for stability.
QNX has been the choice for realtime OSs for a long time. Blackberry has little to do with that but they certainly are trying to cash in on it.
Solving Unix problems since 1989...
This is certainly welcome news. My sync has had issues from day one. A few examples (some fairly humorous)
1) I tell it to call someone. It responds "The requested contact is currently unavailable." No clue what that means. I assume it is having trouble figuring out the number since it hasn't synced phone numbers or something. It usually happens if I try to call shortly after dialing.
2) I tell it to call someone. It responds "No bluetooth device is available right now, I will try to connect one." Then it sits in silence. It eventually does connect, usually after a second or two, but never calls. I have to send the command again.
3) I tell it to call someone. It sits in silence for a while. My current record is about 5 minutes, and then it decides it's going to call. That's kind of awkward sometimes.
4) My time is wrong. I tried to correct my time. It goes back to 12:00 after doing so. Now the clock advances very slowly (like, 1 minute for every few hours.) Still don't know what's going on.
5) I switch to bluetooth audio, it says it is on bluetooth audio, my phone is playing audio to somewhere, but no sound comes out. I remove the pairing, then pair my phone again, and it works.
6) Occasionally, it will never understand what I say until I use the steering wheel buttons to cancel my command and start over.
7) Sometimes the physical buttons don't work and it will stop responding while my music is playing. Then suddenly it will catch up and all the times I hit forward or back on the track suddenly occur.
That's been my experience. I was told my clock can be fixed by having the dealership reinstall the OS. That would take about 6 hrs they say, which I can't really be without my work vehicle for that long so I've just lived with it. They've told me the other issues are fairly common and that they can't help me with it. Oh well. It is a nice idea and things will eventually improve with these sorts of things I'm sure.
Um, no. Blackberry bought QNX to upgrade up their phone OS after QNX had a history of being a solid, reliable realtime OS. I think they were just way too late to answer Apple/Android and that their first efforts to do so were really buggy which drove away any last loyal customers.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Or, better yet, Auto Industry, come up with a "standard" that we can "upgrade" our systems quickly and easily. Nothing worse than driving a ten year old car with outdated technology, because Auto companies want some sort of lock in for their "customers". (quotes added because I know the auto industry is incapable of getting their heads out of their asses long enough care about their customers).
1) Your customers are the first people that buy a car, not everyone that ever owns that car afterwards. Most cars have multiple owners and pissing on them with proprietary components for the sake of proprietary lock in is stupid. First company that comes up with and uses a Standard will have a cult following.
2) You are saying, via lock in, that you really don't care what your ten year old branded car's technology is. Nothing like saying "You have a tape player, that is what you have, that is what you get, you can't upgrade" to everyone that owns you branded vehicle simply because you all couldn't figure out how to build a deck slot for car radios.
3) I have a number of very easy ideas on how to provide upgradable technology slots that would simply make your branded vehicles much more enticing 5 years down the road. You do expect your cars to last that long and represent your brand that long ... right?
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
My old Ford had Sync and it it was slow, froze occasionally and would reboot (for maintenance) every couple hundred hours of operation. Connecting a phone to it wasn't difficult, but it's auto-sync of music was frustrating - you had to wait for several minutes before the system could play. It always felt like it was in continual beta mode. The first versions were so bad Ford sent everyone a free USB dongle to upgrade it rather than just make it available to download like other updates.
What are you listening to on XM that is 'nothing but ads'? I have been listening to XM for over a decade in both cars and at home (mostly rock/jazz/classical) and I have yet to hear an ad.
The focus I rented with sync was horrible.
To use ad2p audio, I had to connect the phone, and would get a message "to play music through Bluetooth, go to audio settings". There we're two audio settings headings, one two levels deep, the other three levels deep, and I could never remember which one to go to, or what the path to it was.
It would forget this setting every time I restarted the car.
The setting forgetting, the two menu items with same name, and the message telling me where to go leaving out the path to get there are all thing's I would consider terrible ui design.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
There is a standard, it's called DIN. Unfortunately, people want these silly swooping dashes and feel like a rectangular radio slot just won't do. Fortunately, you can usually buy a new piece of dash that provides a DIN shaped hole. Pull the old radio out, put the dash piece on, and you're ready to pop in a DIN sized radio.
It's still the standard and it's almost all you can buy in aftermarket radios. Occasionally a company will make an aftermarket radio that isn't DIN for a specific car, but it's rare.
The only non-standard thing are the connections on the back of the radio. Why nobody has come up with a proper standard there, I don't know. Fortunately, for almost every car out there, you can just connect up an adapter and you're mostly good to go after some soldering/crimping wires at home.
The confusion stems from thinking of QNX as the radio (infotainment system) instead of the vehicle control system. Past generations of automobiles separated the two but on modern cars they are integrated. QNX is used to control the entire electronic system including all the sensors on the engine and transmission, the cruise control, the intrusion detection system, as well as the cabin A/C. They all work in concert. That is why Android auto and CarPlay both run atop of QNX. Something Apple and Google downplay. QNX is sold a la cart. OEM's can purchase just the kernel or a whole host of off the shelf plugins that provide a very robust drop in ecosystem. Ford's MySync system runs atop Windows CE (Windows Embedded Compact) and the complaints from customers was it was just too slow. After years of trying to get the responsiveness they wanted they have finally admitted Windows Embedded Compact just isn't the ideal platform for their cars.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
buttons are expensive and can't be reconfigured on the fly.
Someone better tell BMW that, then.
Mine has a row of buttons 1-6 that can be reassigned to whatever is on the screen by holding it in for a couple of seconds. So for me, 1 means "Take me home" and 3 means "NIght view on/off". Handy, and especially so because they're physical buttons, right next to my fingertips on the gear shift.
Operating a touch screen, on the other hand, requires you actually looking and stretching. Not good.