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The Slow Death of Voice Mail

HughPickens.com writes: Duane D. Stanford reports at Bloomberg that Coca-Cola's Atlanta Headquarters is the latest big company to ditch its old-style voice mail, which requires users to push buttons to scroll through messages and listen to them one at a time. The change went into effect this month, and a standard outgoing message now throws up an electronic stiff arm, telling callers to try later or use "an alternative method" to contact the person. Techies have predicted the death of voice mail for years as smartphones co-opt much of the office work once performed by telephones and desktop computers. Younger employees who came of age texting while largely ignoring voice mail are bringing that habit into the workforce. "People north of 40 are schizophrenic about voice mail," says Michael Schrage. "People under 35 scarcely ever use it." Companies are increasingly combining telephone, e-mail, text and video systems into unified Internet-based systems that eliminate overlap. "Many people in many corporations simply don't have the time or desire to spend 25 minutes plowing through a stack of 15 to 25 voice mails at the end or beginning of the day," says Schrage.

In 2012, Vonage reported its year-over-year voicemail volumes dropped 8%. More revealing, the number of people bothering to retrieve those messages plummeted 14%. More and more personal and corporate voicemail boxes now warn callers that their messages are rarely retrieved and that they're better off sending emails or texts. "The truly productive have effectively abandoned voicemail, preferring to visually track who's called them on their mobiles," concludes Schrage. "A communications medium that was once essential has become as clunky and irrelevant as Microsoft DOS and carbon paper."

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  1. youmail by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use youmail for my VM provider. its great because I get texts if i want, transcripts if i want, emails if i want. I tend to stick with the emails (texts before my smart phone). I for the life of me cannot tell you the last time i actually listened to a VM, if i see you called, and i want to talk to you, i call you back.

    Im sure other companies offer the same features, i know google does but to this 29 year old, this is spot on information

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    1. Re:youmail by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 2

      I'm 39 years old and I have largely stopped listening to voice mail as well.

      I tell people that if they want to reach me, don't even bother calling, I largely ignore the phone as well, but I read and respond to texts and e-mails within minutes.

    2. Re:youmail by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The trouble with voice mail is that it painstakingly offers almost all the vices of the other options and few of the virtues. All of the inaccessibility of voice (yeah, you could cut and paste part of a VM into your reply, with some effort; but that would be highly unusual...) without any of the conversational or interactive qualities. All of the one-side's-rambling-monologue of email; but without any of the easy access, search, categorization, exchange of information where formatting or spelling count (Who doesn't love resorting to NATO phonetic alphabet just to get a serial number across a phone line?).

      Then include the fact that most systems for retrieving them are so awful that somebody using an email client 25 years ago would assume that you were fucking with them, and it's just icing on the cake.

    3. Re:youmail by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      i forgot about that! Yes I cant tell you how many people think my number is disconnected. Its even better when i get repeat spammers I can save them in my phone under a funny or explicit name. When they call it will answer "hello dickweed, so and so is unavailable.... etc etc",

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    4. Re:youmail by tepples · · Score: 2

      if i see you called

      A lot of people who rely on voice mail don't pay the extra $8 per month for Caller ID.

      and i want to talk to you, i call you back.

      "Hello?"

      "Hi, this is Staisy, What's going on?"
      "I explained everything in the voice mail I left."

      What's the polite way to continue?

    5. Re:youmail by _anomaly_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly this! If you've got voicemail, take the courtesy to listen to it before calling someone back. If someone has voicemail, I'm going to assume it's for a purpose: so I can leave information of lower importance, assuming you'll get it eventually. If you're going to break this social contract, and you can't be bothered to check your own voicemail before calling someone back, then disable your voicemail already!

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    6. Re:youmail by Cramer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      a) (lie) I didn't get your VM
      b) (truth) I haven't listened to your VM

      Maybe I'm old, but if I don't answer, leave a message. If it's not important enough for you to bother to say anything, it's not important enough for me to bother calling you back. And if you call my home number without leave a message, it may be weeks before I look at a phone and know anyone called. (with telemarketing bullshit, I rarely both looking at the call list unless the answering machine is flashing. [FTR, the phone on my desk is showing "110 missed calls"]) Calls to the cell (which goes to google voice for VM, which will *ding* on a dozen devices, get emailed to me, and transcribed to a text if Google can make any sense of it.) I'll notice in a day or two -- usually in the morning when I pick the phone up to go to work. [current count: 4 numbers I don't recognize] Texts I'll notice immediately if the phone's on me.

      Bottom line... if you called me but didn't (a) leave a message, (b) send a text, or (c) follow up with an email, then you really didn't need to speak to me, did you?

    7. Re:youmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Sorry Staisy, I don't have time to listen to all that shit. Just tell me what you needed."

      I agree with ganjadude. If I see you called it tells me that you wanted to talk to me. If I want to talk to you back, I'll call you. There is no point in leaving a message. Well, most of the time anyway. But important information is best conveyed by text anyway.

      I also didn't know that you could have a phone without caller ID, but I ditched land lines over a decade ago.

      And amazing that another poster said 29 wasn't exactly a spring chicken. Shit. I'm nearly 50. What does that make me? Ready to put out to pasture? I have no doubt that there is some 70 year old out there reading my comment now and thinking what a young punk I am.

    8. Re:youmail by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny

      Obviously, say, "Oh, I'll go listen to that and call you back!" Then call back 10 minutes later and say "Oh hey! I accidentally deleted all my voicemails! Mind going over it again?"

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    9. Re:youmail by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Texting is no longer just for teenage girls, I hate to tell you...

      I finally found a car dealership that gets it, I was shopping for a new truck this year and one dealership on their web site had a third option, finally...

      How would you like us to contact you:
      1. Call
      2. E-mail
      3. Text

      I picked 3, and sure enough, they texted me and got back to me with answers to my questions without a long drawn out process. Short and sweet.

      After a few back and fourth texts about model and details and trade, they asked me what time I'd like to see the truck. I gave them my time, they brought it to my house and left it with me for a few hours while they took my older truck to have it appraised. They then texted me and asked if I was happy with their number, and if so, the F&I guy would come to my house to finish the deal.

      I never had to go to the dealership, ever. Not even for financing. All done at my kitchen table, no inconveniences for me.

      More car dealerships would do well to learn that model, many people my age and younger would prefer to buy a car or truck that way.

    10. Re:youmail by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      Sorry, but I have to disagree. Our Asterisk system gives me caller, length of call, and time in an email immediately after. We had transcriptions enabled before, but they were terrible so I shut it off.

      I appreciate that the telephone can be more efficient for a 2-way dialogue, but it's modality kills me. I can't change trains of thought on a dime and still get things done. To me, the courteous action is to send an email, and follow with a text if it is actually urgent.

      Maybe if I got visual voicemail working for the office I could use it again, or if I could play the .wav or .gsm attachments on my iPhone i would feel differently, but right now it is a pain in the ass.

  2. Gawd I hated it! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not so much having to leave a message, but listening to the messages others left. And smartphones are worse, some giving you the date and time that the phone call was made before playing the message. It won't be missed.

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    1. Re:Gawd I hated it! by internerdj · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If voice mail is gone then people might expect me to answer my phone. I'd much rather deal with voice mail than having to talk to people on the phone when it isn't necessary.

    2. Re:Gawd I hated it! by AchilleTalon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, either way it's bad. When people are leaving messages, it is not rare you have to listen at them a half dozen times before you finally get correctly some critical information in it, like the name of the caller or the phone number which happen to not be the same as the caller id when you get one. There is still a ton of people around thinking leaving a message is some kind of race and you have nearly 10 seconds to tell about your whole life. I hate phones.

      I would like to see phone plans without talking minutes or an optional amount of minutes and a base rate for SMS/text. Currently, most plans include a fix amount of minutes and you have to buy minutes to which SMS are added. Why not the reverse? It would be much less expensive, I almost never talk over phone.

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    3. Re:Gawd I hated it! by Rich0 · · Score: 2

      Yup. Anymore I check my voicemail maybe once every few months. I don't even look for the red light - I use an IP-phone software and I only fire up the software if webex isn't working or I need to call somebody who isn't on the work IM system.

      I don't mind talking to people on the phone at all - that makes perfect sense and I do it all the time. However, leaving messages is a waste of time for the recipient. When I get a message I have to sit there and take notes as they dump a train of thought lacking in important details.

      When you send somebody an email you're doing them the courtesy of pre-organizing your thoughts, double-checking what you send, and ensuring it has all the necessary detail.

      Oh, and when I get an email that says "please give me a call" you can imagine how fast I get back to them. Give me a problem and I'll get back to you with a solution and we'll both waste less time that way.

    4. Re:Gawd I hated it! by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're right! That's, um, the, uh, problem.

      "People north of 40 are schizophrenic about voice mail," says Michael Schrage.

      Bullshit. I'm old and I hate voice mail. No one knows how to leave a message and they're just going to follow up with an email or come see you in person anyway.

      If you're just going to leave a message that says "call me back" then send an email or a text or an IM. Or use the scheduling function in email to set up an appointment with me.

      The worst offender was a manager I worked with some years ago. He would do the stream-of-consciousness thing whenever he got voicemail and you'd end up with 10 sentences covering 10 different topics. Which I would then turn into 10 different email messages and send back to him.

      It's communication! It is NOT the same as talking. Just because you're talking does NOT mean you're communicating.

    5. Re:Gawd I hated it! by khasim · · Score: 3, Informative

      Voice mail etiquette.

      (speak slowly and distinctly here) Hi. This is (your name). My number is (your number).

      (speak normally here) Now state the situation as clearly as you can. But be brief. This is a message. Not exposition.

      End with repeating your name (slowly and clearly) and your phone number.

      Thank you.

      The easiest way to do this is to realize that you MIGHT run into voice mail before you pick up the phone. Go through the message in your head before dialing. This will cut down on the uh and um and huh and em and other noises.

    6. Re:Gawd I hated it! by Ksevio · · Score: 3

      And smartphones are worse, some giving you the date and time that the phone call was made before playing the message.

      That's not something specific to smartphones - that's something that comes from phone companies and voice mail (compared to answering machines of the past) in general. My smartphone has a voice mail app now that lets me just select the message and click "play" - a large improvement.

    7. Re:Gawd I hated it! by xaotikdesigns · · Score: 4, Funny
      Agreed. Voicemail wouldn't be so bad if people knew how to leave a good message.

      Of course, if my mom knew what voicemail etiquette was, I would probably have missed out on the most hilarious "I am surrounded by furbies and I have no idea what is going on, please call me" (that's the much abridged version) when she found her self downtown during the same weekend as the furry convention.

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    8. Re:Gawd I hated it! by Cramer · · Score: 2

      That's just people that don't know how to leave a message. It's not an in-person conversation. You have to slow down, speak up, and call out numbers slow enough that the listener can make sense of your ramblings and have time to write it down. In person, one can ask "what's that number again?" or ask you to "slow the f*** down!"

  3. Voicemail evolution by bhcompy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Proper voicemail systems are evolved.

    At work, my extension is tied into my email. When someone leaves me a message, it's sent as a wav file to my email, and I can listen to it from my mobile device. At home, Vonage gives me "visual voicemail", where my calls are transcribed and sent as an email, along with a wav file, to my personal email. On my cell phone, my phone, my provide provides the same service as Vonage. I don't need to pick up my phone at any location and press * or # or dial a special number to listen to my voicemail, instead it's delivered to me in an easy to consume format. This is proper voicemail. Arcane voicemail systems that require you to dial in and listen to a message will die, simply because they provide no convenience compared to newer alternatives, just like tape driven answer machines were driven out by remotely hosted voicemail services because of their superior featureset and accessibility.

    1. Re:Voicemail evolution by sound+vision · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have to deal with the idiot regardless of whether he's leaving a voice mail, a text, or another email.

  4. Old Guys? by Bigbutt · · Score: 2

    I've always hated talking on the phone and will ignore my red light on the phone for several days or even weeks. Heck, 95% of the time the "voice" message is *beeeeep* (a hangup vs leaving a message). As to the phone, probably half of the callers are from outside the company ("can I send you a white paper from symantec?"). I always prefer an email or text message at home and just email at work. I leave my IM off at work typically just because of the number of "drive by" IMs. If I bring IM up for a problem where I'm working with others, I'll have 4 or 5 other popups asking me about this or that.

    And I'm 57.

    [John]

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  5. When was MS DOS ever a communications medium? by gatkinso · · Score: 2

    Serious question.

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  6. Voicemail won't die by axlash · · Score: 2

    To be clear, as long as:
    - callers call callees;
    - callees are not available to pick up the phone;
    - callers want callees to know there and then why they called;
    voicemail is not going anywhere soon (although the means through which voicemail may be consumed might change).

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    1. Re:Voicemail won't die by axlash · · Score: 2

      Voicemail can still die, even with all of that.

      If the person doesn't answer, send a text or email. Problem solved without voicemail.

      What's more likely is the evolution of the transcription systems mentioned elsewhere in this thread, where the voicemail that the caller leaves is transcribed to text and sent as an email to the callee.

      That's certainly more convenient that having to drop the call and send a separate email.

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    2. Re:Voicemail won't die by sound+vision · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't always have an email or a cell number for the person/organization you're trying to contact. Voice mail doesn't require any contact info or line of communication beyond what was already used for the call.

  7. Term... by Nexzus · · Score: 3, Funny

    V-enema: The Act of rapidly going through your voice mail just to get rid of the icon/flashing light.

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  8. Re:voicemail to email by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    My Cell transcribes all voicemail to text

    let's set so double the killer delete select all

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  9. Good riddance to bad rubbish by grimmjeeper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm old enough to remember when voice mail was a privilege and you had to get your superiors to give you access because you were special. Even back then I didn't want it. I hated having to sift through the menus to listen to some irrelevant crap that someone could just as easily put in an email. I politely declined when my supervisor asked. That is, until the new phone system was installed and everyone was given their own voicemail. I hated getting pestered by some IT flunky to clear out my inbox because it was using up limited space, otherwise I would have let my inbox fill up to the point where it would reject incoming messages. I wasn't high enough on the food chain at that point to be able to get them to remove my inbox entirely but I did know at least one senior staff engineer who was able to make that happen. Though later in my career, once hard drive space was cheap enough to have way more storage than you needed because you couldn't even buy a hard drive that was too small, I did just let the inbox fill up. And after leaving a job of 3.5 years, I did log in to clear out the messages and I had a whopping 13, about half of which were from family members who ended up calling my cell phone. The rest were people who were following up on emails they had sent within 1-2 minutes of calling me.

    So count me in the over 40 crowd that is happy to see voice mail going the way of the floppy disk. Good riddance. I look forward to not having to deal with it.

  10. One reason: Annoyance by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One reason for the death of voice mail is the change from convenience to annoyance imposed by the carriers.

    First you hear “Hi, it’s John Smith. Leave a message, and I’ll get back to you”. (5 seconds)

    And THEN you hear a 15-second canned carrier message "[Phone number] is not available right now. Please leave a detailed message after the tone. When you have finished recording, you may hang up, or press pound for more options. To leave a callback number, press 5.”

    That extra 15 seconds is annoying as hell to wait out, and it's only put there so that the carrier can use up metered minutes on an artificially scarce resource.

    Then when you go to *play* the message, you have to wait through the "First message, from, phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx, received at ".

    The old-style was much more convenient. Leave a message *beep* "Hi, this is your sister, please give me a call". Oftentimes 10 seconds *total* gets the point across.

    The new-style - not so much.

    Take the time wasted on each worthless recording (15 secs), multiply by the number of messages each year, and you get a *lot* of wasted man-years.

    Thanks, carriers! Your relentless pursuit of money has ruined a perfectly useful feature.

    1. Re:One reason: Annoyance by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 2

      Actually having it spelled out is useful, since they might have just called someone else after not getting you instead of leaving a message. If you're on a call list for example. Or if someone you know is just trying to reach *anyone* inside a house/office where any of 6 people could let them in / handle their problem. In those situations, a missed call with no corresponding message simply means "disregard, I've tried someone else".

  11. Connect to email by gurps_npc · · Score: 2

    Not that hard to have your voicemail system automatically record an mp3 and email the file, listing the telephone number as the "from" address.

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  12. Hell, I'm damn near 50 by DougOtto · · Score: 3

    My VM box is like the Roach Motel; messages check in but they don't check out. I'm not even sure I remember my VM password.

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  13. I use VM primary in two ways by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

    1. Triage calls for call back. If they won't leave a VM on my cell it is generally not a serious issue requiring immediate attention

    2. To tell people they have reached the wrong number and the person they want to reach is at extension xxx. I use that at a client site because a PM has the same last name as I do since I get calls for him by accident on occasion. This message at least lets callers know they have reached the wrong person so they know to call back and dial the correct extension; which I give in my VM. I do get the occasional idiot who insists they dialed the correct extension, and says so in their VM, and leaves a request for information they need RIGHT NOW. Since I am rarely in my office and all my clients have my cell # anyway those requests generally never get answered. I assume they call back and actually dial the right extension when they do not hear back from the person they thought they left a message.

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  14. Mobile e-mail requires a mobile data plan by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When you send somebody an email you're doing them the courtesy of pre-organizing your thoughts

    Not everybody pays for a $500 per year smartphone plan. For example, sometimes it might be hours before I can get to an open Wi-Fi connection through which to send an e-mail from my laptop, but I can leave a voice mail from my $80/year flip phone. What would be the most polite way for someone like me to call you?

  15. Re:Pay-per-minute line by Smauler · · Score: 2

    Land line providers charge extra for long distance.

    This is one of the biggest differences between the US and most other places in the world. I'm 36, from the UK, and remember long distance charges on landlines, but only just. Now just about all national calls from a landline are essentially free.

    Calling mobiles from landlines used to be horrendously expensive (almost 50p a minute IIRC). This is how mobile companies made a whole load of their money - charging others to phone them. Now it's a little better, but the mobile companies still massively profit from calls from landlines.

    International landline calls used to be expensive... now they're cheap. It's cheaper to call Australia from your landline than it is to call the mobile next to you in the UK in most cases.

    Finding out the exact charges is difficult.

  16. Schizophrenic? by William+Baric · · Score: 2

    People north of 40 are schizophrenic about voice mail?

    Like... they hear voices when they listen to voice mails?