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Did North Korea Really Attack Sony?

An anonymous reader writes "Many security experts remain skeptical of North Korea's involvement in the recent Sony hacks. Schneier writes: "Clues in the hackers' attack code seem to point in all directions at once. The FBI points to reused code from previous attacks associated with North Korea, as well as similarities in the networks used to launch the attacks. Korean language in the code also suggests a Korean origin, though not necessarily a North Korean one, since North Koreans use a unique dialect. However you read it, this sort of evidence is circumstantial at best. It's easy to fake, and it's even easier to interpret it incorrectly. In general, it's a situation that rapidly devolves into storytelling, where analysts pick bits and pieces of the "evidence" to suit the narrative they already have worked out in their heads.""

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  1. Re:Motive by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Worse than we got? A company that everyone loves to hate got embarrassed. Sony will likely lose a bunch of money. The FBI will get Beltway Cred for it's great Cyber sleuthing work. Hundreds of security consultants will get some nice Christmas bonuses. A few people will have their lives messed up.

    What are we supposed to do to NK? Give them a stocking full of coal?

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  2. Very doubtful it was North Korea by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kim Jong Un is exactly the type who would accept undeserved credit for a cyberattack. "What, who me? I did what? Uh ... oh really? Oh! OK, yeah everybody, I did it!"

    1. Re:Very doubtful it was North Korea by Shoten · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Kim Jong Un is exactly the type who would accept undeserved credit for a cyberattack. "What, who me? I did what? Uh ... oh really? Oh! OK, yeah everybody, I did it!"

      Except that historically, he's always denied responsibility for attacks that were clearly accredited to NK. It's kind of like Putin's behavior in the Ukraine, only even a bit more bizarre.

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  3. Re:Motive by reikae · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would you really want to send your son or daughter to die in North Korea because crackers broke into a company's servers? Also I'm not really convinced yet that NPRK's military was behind the crime.

  4. I was suspicious from the moment they denied it. by BitterOak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was suspicious of the U.S. allegations that the North Korean government was behind it when the North Koreans denied it was them. If you're going to hack somebody to make a political statement, it makes no sense to later deny that you were involved. Someone might be trying to make it look like North Korea, but I seriously doubt they were directly involved in this.

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  5. not really likely by dltaylor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    NK denied it, rather than taking credit.

    Their tools are widely distributed, so faking the source is really easy.

    The US government is weird combination of ineptitude and self-aggrandizement, so the FBI claims are likely pure BS designed to make the claimants look good (they were SOOO sure that had profiled the Yosemite killer years ago that it only took two more deaths to prove them wrong).

  6. Re:Motive by Free+Censorship · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But I wouldn't mind sending our forces in to remove the North Korean government and return the land to South Korea...

    I would. Fund the pointless, unjust war yourself, if you want it so badly; don't take my money to do it. I don't much care for randomly invading sovereign countries and killing thousands to install puppet governments that our government likes.

    And South Korea's government may be better, but it's far from freedom-minded.

  7. The NK story was cover to protect Sony (and NSA) by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course North Korea didn't attack Sony. Asking "Did North Korea really attack Sony?" is like asking "Does NORAD really track Santa?"

    The North Korea story was spin to save Sony from the devastating bad publicity about the depths of their business and technological incompetence. (The politicians who defended them will get repaid for this favor during the next election cycle. My previous comment about this from last week: They may even start using this to try to rescue that disaster of a movie. "You have to see 'The Interview'! To support free speech and America!")

    The Dear Leader Of The Free World announcing "don't blame poor Sony, they were helpless victims of the evil North Koreans" totally changed the media story, saving Sony huge $$$ in both public perception and future lawsuits.

    But just how America's President and trillion-dollar national security state could get things so wrong - but should always be trusted when saying who's bad and deserves to be killed, like some kind of psycho-Santa delivering death from his sleigh filled with drones - will never be questioned.

    Businesses and politicians will never stop lying when it works this well.

    Merry Christmas.

  8. Re:Motive by DexterIsADog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, I wouldn't...

    But I wouldn't mind sending our forces in to remove the North Korean government... ...A simple 2-3% tax on corporate earnings from the new United Korea until the cost is repaid, including a healthy payment to the family of any US solder who dies.

    Nothing too big, so that it isn't painful enough to cause problems, but something to show that they have to do their part in paying for our services.

    "The Iraq war will pay for itself." Dick Cheney, is that you?

    It still gives me a little shock when I see someone express such breathtaking arrogance and ignorance.

    You added a new twist, though, I have to hand it to you for suggesting that we levy a tax after "liberating" North Korea, to *literally* pay blood money to families of soldiers who die.

    Most of the United States' problems around the world are exacerbated by the enforcer mentality behind much of our foreign policy, and you want to turn the U.S. into an openly mercenary state.

    Bravo, sir, bravo. Tell the orderly to stop stealing your meds.

  9. Re:Motive by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Given what the D stands for, you are correct to change it to something else at random. N for Nazi seems a fitting alternative for the FPRK.

    Usually any country with a form of government (Democratic, Republic, Socialist, etc.) in the name is not that form of government.Doubly so when it is 'Democratic'.

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