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N. Korea Blames US For Internet Outage, Compares Obama to "a Monkey"

Reuters reports that North Korea's government has publicly blamed the U.S. for the widespread internet outages that the country has recently experienced (including today), and taken the opportunity to lambaste President Obama, as well. From the article: The National Defence Commission, the North's ruling body, chaired by state leader Kim Jong Un, said Obama was responsible for Sony's belated decision to release the action comedy "The Interview", which depicts a plot to assassinate Kim. "Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," an unnamed spokesman for the commission said in a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency, using a term seemingly designed to cause racial offence that North Korea has used before.

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  1. Prediction: by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many of the same slashdotters who accept "experts" who claim NK didn't hack Sony will readily accept as truth that it was "obviously" the US that attacked NK, even though there is even less objective proof of that, and could just as easily be some Anonymous offshoot, or any number of other organizations, or even North Korea itself.

    See the logical disconnect, here?

    For those now jumping on the "North Korea didn't hack Sony" bandwagon that some security "experts" are leading for their own political or ideological reasons, including using rationales as puzzling and pedestrian as source IP addresses of the attacks being elsewhere, some comments:

    Attribution in cyber is hard, and the general public is never going to know the classified intelligence that went into making an attribution determination, and experts -- actual and self-appointed -- will make claims about what they think occurred.

    With cyber, you could have nation-states, terrorists organizations, or even activist hacking groups attacking other nation-states, companies, or organizations, for any number of motives, and making it appear, from a social and technical standpoint, that the attack originated from and/or was ordered by another entity entirely.

    That's a HUGE problem, but there are ways to mitigate it. A Sony "insider" may indeed -- wittingly or unwittingly -- have been key in pulling off this hack. That doesn't mean that DPRK wasn't involved. I am not making a formal statement one way or the other; just saying that the public won't be privy to the specific attribution rationale.

    Also, any offensive cyber action that isn't totally worthless is going to attempt to mask or completely divert attention from its true origins (unless part of the strategic intent is to make it clear who did it), or at a minimum maintain some semblance of deniability.

    At some point you have to apply Occam's razor and ask who benefits.

    And for those riding the kooky "This is all a big marketing scam by Sony" train:

    So, you're saying that Sony leaked thousands of extremely embarrassing and in some cases damaging internal documents and emails that will probably result in the CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment being ousted, including private and statutorily-protected personal health information of employees, and issued terroristic messages threatening 9/11-style attacks at US movie theaters, committing dozens to hundreds of federal felonies, while derailing any hopes for a mass release and instead having it end up on YouTube for rental, all to promote one of hundreds of second-rate movies?

    Yeah...no.

    1. Re:Prediction: by Nyder · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Not sure what you are going on about, but here is the reality.

      North Korea didn't hack Sony.
      The President was quick to publicly blame North Korea. Said we would retaliate in some way.
      North Korea's internet goes down.

      What I see is a bully nation, the USA, blaming someone without the facts, saying they'd retaliate, which then someone did retaliate, so the USA is to blame because they incited others, or possibly they themselves are responsible for the internet downtime.

      Either way, the USA is the jackass in this whole scenario.

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    2. Re:Prediction: by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      First of all, you say, "North Korea didn't hack Sony," as if it is an indisputable, known fact. It is not -- by any stretch of the imagination.

      The fact is, it cannot be proven either way in a public forum, or without having independent access to evidence which proves -- from a social, not technical, standpoint -- how the attack originated. Since neither of those are possible, the MOST that can be accurate stated is that no one, in a public context, can definitively demonstrate for certain who hacked Sony.

      Blameless in your scenario is the only entity actually responsible, which is that entity that attacked Sony in the first place.

      Whether that is the DPRK, someone directed by the DPRK, someone else entirely, or a combination of the above, your larger point appears to be that somehow the US is to blame for a US subsidiary of a Japanese corporation getting hacked -- or perhaps simply for existing.

      As a bonus, you could blame Sony for saying its security controls weren't strong enough, while still reserving enough blame for the US as the only "jackass".

      Bravo.

    3. Re:Prediction: by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Quite right. In summary: none of us here in the peanut gallery have any real way to know who did what. Most of the opinions I've seen here seem to reflect whatever biases each opiner may have. The known facts are few and far between. Of course, I have my own opinions but I won't share them because they reflect my own biases.

      This thing is a bit like an Agatha Christie mystery. You may be certain who did it, but you don't really know until Christie tells you. Then you invariably find out you were wrong. Even the strategy of picking the least likely culprit doesn't work. Unfortunately, in this case, we don't have the author to tell us the "truth", so we likely will never know.

    4. Re:Prediction: by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You should save that comment. I think you could use it in at least 80% of stories and be bang on-topic.

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  2. They have a good point by Nyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the US & Obama was quick to blame NK, when it was very unlikely they did it, and security experts are pointing out left & right.

    Because Obama saying NK did it and we would retaliate, and suddenly NK internet goes down, fuck ya, we are guilty as fuck.

    We wrongfully blamed the NK, got people to believe our lies and then DDos or whatever happened to NK's internet. All on our heads.

    Our government owes NK a big ass apology and honestly, our government, from the congress critters up to the president, including all the various NSA, CIA, and rest of the stupid shit needs to be replaced.

    This is not the America I'm proud of, I'm not a bully and not happy with the bully tactics America does.

    Time for a change, time to take America back.

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  3. Re:Didn't they announce it? by morcego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cutting North Korea's Internet access is just a trial run, the real objective is to cut Internet access to everyone in the U.S.A.

    Isn't Comcast already doing exactly that?

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  4. Re:More Anti-Republican Prior Art by willworkforbeer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    LMGTFY

    George Bush Monkey Photos

    Bush haters, from the days when Obama was merely organizing communities.

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