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The Interview Bombs In US, Kills In China, Threatens N. Korea

First time accepted submitter twitnutttt (2958183) writes "While it has been broadly panned in the U.S. as not very funny, The Interview is surprisingly getting good reviews in China. And the North Korean government's fears of the threat posed by this movie are apparently merited: "It is powerful because it depicts Kim Jong-un as a vain, buffoonish despot, alternating between threats and weeping that he's been misunderstood. The people around him have all the signs of fear you might expect with a despot — they second-guess his likes and dislikes. Maybe he — and they — were right to fear the film. North Korean defectors sometimes smuggle USB sticks with films and soaps into the closed-off country, and there is a view in the south that these are a particularly powerful means of undermining the regime in Pyongyang. If that's so, The Interview might be a good candidate for inclusion." If you've seen the movie, and have your own reactions, please label any real spoilers out of courtesy.

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  1. Bombs in the US? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Informative

    It may be an unfunny movie, but reports are that in the limited number of theatres it has been relieased in, the shows are sold out.

    That's hardly "bombing".

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    1. Re:Bombs in the US? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bombed with critics...

      Meaningless when talking about Seth Rogen movies. The "critics" are not who goes to his movies. People who laugh at fart jokes go to his movies.

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    2. Re:Bombs in the US? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm more curious about how North Korean defectors are smuggling things into the country.

      The same way they got out? A little help on the inside? Helium-filled balloons are all the rage:

      South Korea’s military said North Korean firing was first heard Friday afternoon, directed at balloons carrying anti-North Korean regime propaganda launched by South Korean activists.

      Activists frequently launch helium-filled balloons carrying thousands of leaflets with pro-democracy, anti-North Korea messages, as well as DVDs and other items. Many North Korean refugees say access to outside media motivated their escape from the country, but critics say the balloons contribute to inter-Korean frictions.

      North Korea has repeatedly demanded that South Korea prevent the launches and threatened to fire at the balloons, but it had never previously done so.

      "The leaflet-scattering operation, part of the psychological warfare targeting [North Korea], can never be overlooked as it is a deliberate and premeditated provocation," North Korea’s state media said Thursday.

      South Korea sometimes intervenes to prevent launches when there are complaints from local residents worried about the North’s retaliation.

      The North’s firing appeared to be aimed at balloons launched by a group headed by North Korean defector Lee Min-bok, who said no one in the group was hurt. Late Friday, Mr. Lee said he was looking for new locations to launch more balloons.

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    3. Re:Bombs in the US? by Threni · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bombing relates to how much money a movie takes, not how well it does in n cinemas. It can sell out in 100 cinemas for weeks but still bomb.

    4. Re:Bombs in the US? by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 2

      Me too. It was certainly funny enough. It was one of the funnier movies I've seen in a while. Excellent pacing too.

    5. Re:Bombs in the US? by quenda · · Score: 2

      Meh. I'm waiting for their next comedy movie, "Life of Mohammed" (working title). Should be a blast.

    6. Re:Bombs in the US? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Based upon actual behaviour that would have to be a porn flick and even worse not only would it get banned but it would be a criminal act to own a copy, not because of any insult to religion but because of the child porn aspects of it. Seriously the Koran itself should be banned as should the bible or the Torah for any criminal actions it promotes and most definitely none of them should be given to minors until such time as they are edited and the criminal aspects removed.

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    7. Re:Bombs in the US? by haruchai · · Score: 2

      You can expect to hear a raft of fart jokes at a frat party.

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    8. Re: Bombs in the US? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But at least it's consistent. If you truly believed that people will go to Hell if they don't convert, wouldn't it be your moral obligation to do everything you could to help them?
      Sure, the least annoying fanatics are the ones who leave you alone, but they are also, at best, hypocrites.

    9. Re:Bombs in the US? by TheKidWho · · Score: 2

      By fart of course, you mean, Fucking Art.

    10. Re: Bombs in the US? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe. Mormons always confused me. They come to your door and try to get you to convert, but they also believe that heaven only has room for 5000 people. So wouldn't you be better off keeping it to yourself?

      It turns out that God gives you afterlife credits for every unbeliever you convert. So it's important to convert a bunch of people so you can hopefully slip into one of the limited spots. Ahead of everyone you converted (and most of your co-religionists) presumably.

      Logical, non-hypocritical, but kinda mercenary if you ask me.

  2. What did you expect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This ain't charlie chaplin folks, it's a guy who built a career on man-boy humor and dick jokes. The fact that North Korea is so offended by this only confirms how absurdly immature their fearless leader really can be. A chubby Jewish guy almost toppled the whole charade with toilet humor.

  3. Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      You know, if it wasn't for the Slashdot boycott of Sony, the take would be at least double.

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    2. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Microlith · · Score: 4, Informative

      That doesn't mean it's a good movie. Most of the sold out showings are because of the hype surrounding this incident. The reviews are pretty uniformly bad.

      People aren't flocking to it because it looked good, or because it is good. They're going mostly to spite the group that hacked Sony and North Korea.

    3. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Originally, it was to open in 3000+ theaters and gross 20-25 milions over the weekend. It's now projected to be about 2-3 million. And once all the Seth Rogen fans, and morons that think going to this shitty movie and giving their money to a corporation is an act of patriotism, or some act in defense of free speech have seen it, it will likely migrate to the bargain theaters and dvd very quickly since its unlikely for the big chains to show it having missed out on opening day receipts. Yeah, its a bomb.

    4. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Threni · · Score: 2

      "That doesn't mean it's a good movie."

      What's that got to do with bombing? Nobody cares if a movie is any good; the people who make it only care about return on investment, then making a profit, and people who like it will like it regardless of other people's opinions.

    5. Re: Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by nedlohs · · Score: 2

      Bombing means not selling tickets, it has nothing to do with the quality of the movie (other than indirectly).

      Though it'll bomb due to the limited release, but now Sony has an excuse...

  4. Not very funny? Is anybody surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want a good movie mocking a dictator?

    Duck Soup. It's like a thousand times as good as the Interview.

  5. Its not a good film by future+assassin · · Score: 2

    and acting was pretty bad although it was funny 1/3 of ht show. Basically it was border line Borat style shock comedy. The guy playing Kim Jong did the best acting vs the main stars.

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  6. Nobel? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "It is powerful because it depicts Kim Jong-un as a vain, buffoonish despot, alternating between threats and weeping that he's been misunderstood. The people around him have all the signs of fear you might expect with a despot â" they second-guess his likes and dislikes. Maybe he â" and they â" were right to fear the film. North Korean defectors sometimes smuggle USB sticks with films and soaps into the closed-off country, and there is a view in the south that these are a particularly powerful means of undermining the regime in Pyongyang. If that's so, The Interview might be a good candidate for inclusion."

    If nothing else, it's rather sad that Seth Rogen and James Franco are able to have a bigger impact on North Korea than sanctions and every diplomat and US president since the end of the Korean War.

    This sounds like Nobel Peace Prize buzz to me. ;-)

    1. Re:Nobel? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This.

      I was watching the news the other day. They were reporting that the UN was considering what to do about Kim Jong Un and his horrid regime's human rights violations, in the wake of the Sony cyber-attack.

      The first thing that crossed my mind was: the only thing that prompted the UN to start worrying about the poor North Koreans is essentially a computer attack on some big corporation, and the damage it did to its bottom line. Before that, they really didn't give much of a shit, did they?

      The UN was really crass, both with their response and with their timing, and if it doesn't show you with glaring clarity whose interests they really have at heart, nothing else will.

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    2. Re:Nobel? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's utter BS. The UN released a report on human rights violations months before The Interview became a big issue. You should read it. The treatment of political prisoners (and christ, even unlucky bastards who happen to be distaff kin) is so harrowing that the only thing that really does come close was the Nazi death camps.

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    3. Re:Nobel? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I think Seth Rogen and James Franco should make dictator-mocking their shtick- they're way more likely to succeed with that strategy than anything they'll dream up by themselves. The jokes practically write themselves; in fact KJU is the only interesting character in this movie. So here are some ideas for sequels:
      • Benjamin Netanyahu: While on a trip to congratulate Netanyahu for winning a beauty pageant, Rogen and Franco realize that he won by launching missiles at all the other contestants.
      • Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Rogen and Franco are held hostage by the ISIS leader until he realizes that nobody in the U.S. cares if their heads get chopped off.
      • Vladimir Putin: Rogen and Franco score an interview with the shirtless ruthless dictator. Unfortunately Franco enters the country with a dollar bill in his pocket and inadvertently causes a currency crisis. Then one day Rogen drinks tea laced with polonium 210 and things get wild.
    4. Re:Nobel? by DeVilla · · Score: 2

      If nothing else, it's rather sad that Seth Rogen and James Franco are able to have a bigger impact on North Korea than sanctions and every diplomat and US president since the end of the Korean War.

      This sounds like Nobel Peace Prize buzz to me. ;-)

      It's been given for less.

  7. Meh by lennier1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a movie that includes Seth Rogen!
    What did you expect? A new Schindler's List?!?

  8. Re: Hopefully by Free+Censorship · · Score: 2

    I don't see why only disliking stupid jokes is a liberal-only thing. It seems more like what is and is not funny is subjective.

  9. Re: Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I'm almost embarrassingly rich thanks to a wealthy family, I've never understood the US obsession with wealth as an indicator of anything except... that a person has cash or other material assets. There are many ways to become rich, and almost none of them involve much productivity, let alone effort.

  10. Culture and information matter. by coldsalmon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The North Korean regime's survival depends on keeping its people completely uninformed. Here's an article about how even a little bit of information about the outside world can destroy the carefully constructed myths that sustain North Korean society: http://articles.latimes.com/20...

    "About two years ago, a North Korean who worked in the state fisheries division was on a boat in the Yellow Sea when his transistor radio picked up a South Korean situation comedy. The radio program featured two young women who were fighting over a parking space in their apartment complex.
    A parking space? The North Korean was astonished by the idea that there was a place with so many cars that there would be a shortage of places to park them. Although he was in his late 30s and a director of his division, he had never met anyone who owned their own car.
    The North Korean never forgot that radio show and ended up defecting to South Korea last year."

    The article is old, but I don't think things have changed much in North Korea.

    1. Re:Culture and information matter. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because you can't check alternative media sources in the United States. No sirree, there's only one state broadcaster that plays nothing but pro-US government material all year long...

      Fucking hell, you fucking moron. There's lots to condemn the US over, but I'd say it would be hard to think of a country with more diversity of voices, to the point of a loud braying cacophony.

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    2. Re:Culture and information matter. by Livius · · Score: 2

      It keeps its people *largely* uninformed. Any attempt to completely cut off reliable information would trigger push back and be counter-productive. Actually, they seem to have found a very good balance where for minimal effort the people keep themselves mostly uninformed.

      Completely uninformed, however, is flat-out wrong.

  11. It had some funny bits by JeffElkins · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But not enough to justify a pair of full-price tickets. I will give it this; it was better than any Adam Sandler or Jim Carrey movie I've seen.

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    1. Re:It had some funny bits by excelsior_gr · · Score: 3, Informative

      You might want to reconsider Jim Carrey. The Truman Show, Man On The Moon and Eternal Sunshine Of The Spottless Mind are quite good movies.

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  13. For a country where Kim Jong UN by dixonpete · · Score: 2

    is revered as a god, I can see an awful lot of North Koreans trying to sneak a look at this movie. it could potentially be a game changer for them to see how the world looks at their perfect leader. Might even topple the government. Probably not, but one can hope.

  14. Re:what China should do is by xlsior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    invade North Korea, depose the North Korean government, and depose & disarm the North Korean military, and once they stabilized it, hand it over to South Korea

    ...Except China likes having North Korea as a buffer zone between it and the much more democratic and western-aligned South Korea. Having a crackpot dictatorship on its borders helps China's own citizens from getting to many 'crazy' ideas in their head -- "Look how great we have it here!"

  15. Re:Why would I buy it when... by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When you can download or watch it for free. I have never gotten the people around here who say piracy doesn't hurt sales, of course I am going to seek the cheapest method possible to get it. I don't give a shit about DRM/IP/etc.. I am cheap and not some evangelical mission.

    Because you wouldn't have bought it anyway, duh.

    Mod parent up. Piracy has always been a non-threat. Pirates don't buy. They're never a missed sale, they're simply a no-sale.

  16. As others have said... by ArtFart · · Score: 2

    ...it's about what we've come to expect from Rogen and his pals. In parts hilarious, disgusting, inane, chaotic (well, most of it was that...), thought-provoking, puerile and brilliant. Not unlike reality.

  17. Re:Not very funny? Is anybody surprised? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 2

    I'd say Last King Of Scotland but that's hardly a comedy...

    relevance to Slashdotters: Dana Scully is in a supporting role! :)

  18. Submission Title by Nemyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it just me who found the title for this submission a little strange, especially considering the hackers threatened to bomb the theaters which'd show the movie? I initially misread it into thinking they actually did it somehow.

  19. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Pirates" are not definable in absolutes like that. Some studies have shown they are the biggest consumers of both paid and "stolen" media.

    Saying they are simply a non-threat/no-sale is just as intellectually dishonest as when the RIAA/MPAA claim every pirated copy is a fully lost sale.

  20. Re:what China should do is by belmolis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That isn't entirely true. North Korea is not well suited for agriculture, and due to the war and mismanagement the economy is a mess, but it has large ore deposits. Mining is a significant component of the economy even now, and with good management and investment for infrastructure (such as adequate electrical power) could grow considerably.

  21. Blockbuster? Bomb? by Nethead · · Score: 2

    I've never understood this one, a blockbuster is a great movie while a bomb is a bad one. But a blockbuster is a bomb. WTF?

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  22. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Free+Censorship · · Score: 2

    Hardly. They obviously believe the product has some value or they wouldn't have stolen it.

    Worth downloading != worth paying money for.

  23. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Pentium100 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Piracy is convenient.

    Downloading - a few minutes of my time to start the download. Then after it finishes (which is very fast usually), I can watch the movie on whatever device that has enough processing power and a screen, at any time having full control of it.

    Going to the cinema (in general) - need to drive to wherever the cinema is, at a specified time, watch it with a bunch of strangers (that may include screaming children), no control whatsoever - cannot pause the movie to go to the toilet, cannot rewind a few seconds to rewatch a scene I missed, cannot increase or reduce the sound volume, cannot even have a conversation with whoever I came to watch the movie (assuming I did not come alone) during a boring part. Forced to watch ads before the movie. Cannot bring the food that I want (that is not sold (at high prices) in the cinema). The movie has to be recent enough to still be showed in cinemas.

    Going to the cinema (this particular movie) - All of the above but include traveling to the US, getting a hotel room etc.

    Buying a DVD/Bluray - Better than going to the cinema, but still have to go to a store that sells them, have to sit through a bunch of unskippable ads.

    Time from "Hey, let's watch a movie! Which one? [googles some previously unheard of movie] This one." to actually watching it:
    DVD: 30 minutes - 1 hour (assuming the store is open), days (if the store is closed).
    Cinema: 30 minutes - 3 hours (assuming the movie is being shown in cinemas and the cinema is open), days (if the cinema is closed), undefined (if the movie is not shown in cinemas).
    Download: 5 - 30 minutes (my internet connection is up to 500mbps).

    Oh, and Netflix is not available in my country in case you were going to suggest it.

    So, see, even if the tickets for the movie (or the DVDs at the store) were given away for free, downloading would be the preferred option.

  24. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Copid · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think he's saying that a restaurant reviewer who goes into a burger joint and shits all over it in his review because they didn't have sushi is probably not adding much useful information to the review-o-sphere.

    I don't like most childrens movies because I'm an adult and I find them childish. But if somebody was paying me to write informative reviews and I had to review a kids' movie, I wouldn't spend a lot of time bemoaning the simplistic plot line, limited charater development or overly bright color pallette. Complaining that the latest Disney Princess movie didn't have the same set of elements that made No Country for Old Men appealing sort of misses the point. It's not even sensible enough to be considered wrong.

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