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The Interview Bombs In US, Kills In China, Threatens N. Korea

First time accepted submitter twitnutttt (2958183) writes "While it has been broadly panned in the U.S. as not very funny, The Interview is surprisingly getting good reviews in China. And the North Korean government's fears of the threat posed by this movie are apparently merited: "It is powerful because it depicts Kim Jong-un as a vain, buffoonish despot, alternating between threats and weeping that he's been misunderstood. The people around him have all the signs of fear you might expect with a despot — they second-guess his likes and dislikes. Maybe he — and they — were right to fear the film. North Korean defectors sometimes smuggle USB sticks with films and soaps into the closed-off country, and there is a view in the south that these are a particularly powerful means of undermining the regime in Pyongyang. If that's so, The Interview might be a good candidate for inclusion." If you've seen the movie, and have your own reactions, please label any real spoilers out of courtesy.

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  1. Bombs in the US? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Informative

    It may be an unfunny movie, but reports are that in the limited number of theatres it has been relieased in, the shows are sold out.

    That's hardly "bombing".

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    1. Re:Bombs in the US? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      well due to the big chains pulling out sony may lose big $ on this. While other bad movies still do good at the box office.

    2. Re:Bombs in the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bombed with critics. Which is why the first two sentences explain that it was panned in the US and received good reviews in China - explaining how it's "killing" in China. This wasn't that hard to figure out, was it?

      I'm more curious about how North Korean defectors are smuggling things into the country.

    3. Re:Bombs in the US? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bombed with critics...

      Meaningless when talking about Seth Rogen movies. The "critics" are not who goes to his movies. People who laugh at fart jokes go to his movies.

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    4. Re:Bombs in the US? by conoviator · · Score: 1

      From the previews that I saw earlier this year, it was obviously intended to appeal to high school and fraternity boys. So, it'll have one good weekend at the box office. Then unkind word of mouth will spread

    5. Re:Bombs in the US? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm more curious about how North Korean defectors are smuggling things into the country.

      The same way they got out? A little help on the inside? Helium-filled balloons are all the rage:

      South Korea’s military said North Korean firing was first heard Friday afternoon, directed at balloons carrying anti-North Korean regime propaganda launched by South Korean activists.

      Activists frequently launch helium-filled balloons carrying thousands of leaflets with pro-democracy, anti-North Korea messages, as well as DVDs and other items. Many North Korean refugees say access to outside media motivated their escape from the country, but critics say the balloons contribute to inter-Korean frictions.

      North Korea has repeatedly demanded that South Korea prevent the launches and threatened to fire at the balloons, but it had never previously done so.

      "The leaflet-scattering operation, part of the psychological warfare targeting [North Korea], can never be overlooked as it is a deliberate and premeditated provocation," North Korea’s state media said Thursday.

      South Korea sometimes intervenes to prevent launches when there are complaints from local residents worried about the North’s retaliation.

      The North’s firing appeared to be aimed at balloons launched by a group headed by North Korean defector Lee Min-bok, who said no one in the group was hurt. Late Friday, Mr. Lee said he was looking for new locations to launch more balloons.

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    6. Re:Bombs in the US? by sjames · · Score: 1

      I saw video last week of one defector sending largish bundles of "The Interview" DVDs over the DMZ with large plastic bags filled with helium.

    7. Re:Bombs in the US? by Threni · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bombing relates to how much money a movie takes, not how well it does in n cinemas. It can sell out in 100 cinemas for weeks but still bomb.

    8. Re:Bombs in the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's at 49% on Rotten Tomatoes... It is in fact hardly "bombing"... It's just very average... It's part of the "buzz" that the movie "even sucks" (as in "the North Korean government reacts so strongly even though the movie is so stupidly bad"...), and others exagerate their rejection of the movie in reaction to "buzzing" in general or (in some media, including Slashdot) because it involves Sony, or try to take the movie too seriously even though it is mostly derisive of everyone and everything involved, including the viewer...

    9. Re:Bombs in the US? by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      People who laugh at fart jokes go to his movies.

      There's a reason why fart is an anagram of frat...

    10. Re:Bombs in the US? by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 2

      Me too. It was certainly funny enough. It was one of the funnier movies I've seen in a while. Excellent pacing too.

    11. Re:Bombs in the US? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      People who laugh at fart jokes go to his movies.

      There's a reason why fart is an anagram of frat...

      And "raft" but I'm not sure I see either your or my point, unless you're confusing coincidence with reason.

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    12. Re: Bombs in the US? by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

      >>That is the dumbest thing I read all morning

      Then get hold of some of the script for this movie, your superlatives are about to be reset.
      Can't say I didn't laugh, but I felt I was watching The Two Stooges Play James Bond in North Korea.

    13. Re:Bombs in the US? by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      And there ain't nothing wrong with that.

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    14. Re:Bombs in the US? by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      This is why we need mod points for articles themselves.

    15. Re:Bombs in the US? by quenda · · Score: 2

      Meh. I'm waiting for their next comedy movie, "Life of Mohammed" (working title). Should be a blast.

    16. Re:Bombs in the US? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Based upon actual behaviour that would have to be a porn flick and even worse not only would it get banned but it would be a criminal act to own a copy, not because of any insult to religion but because of the child porn aspects of it. Seriously the Koran itself should be banned as should the bible or the Torah for any criminal actions it promotes and most definitely none of them should be given to minors until such time as they are edited and the criminal aspects removed.

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    17. Re:Bombs in the US? by readin · · Score: 1

      It may be an unfunny movie, but reports are that in the limited number of theatres it has been relieased in, the shows are sold out.

      That's hardly "bombing".

      And there is more to come. I haven't seen it yet but I will make sure I see it (legally, not pirated) when I can. I'm sure most of the sales in America are coming from people with the same thought.

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    18. Re:Bombs in the US? by rebelwarlock · · Score: 1

      So we're doing Borderlands 2 references now?

    19. Re: Bombs in the US? by shafty023 · · Score: 1

      I thought it was funny too. I never listen to critics. I wasn't looking to see the movie 7 pounds, or The Notebook. I was hoping to see demeaning dumb jokes and laugh.

    20. Re:Bombs in the US? by haruchai · · Score: 2

      You can expect to hear a raft of fart jokes at a frat party.

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    21. Re: Bombs in the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nobody wants to hear about your stupid fairy tales. Keep them to yourself.

    22. Re: Bombs in the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The problem is that these people don't have easy access to information, so whatever you send them ends up being one of the few sources of 'facts' that they have. It is propaganda, nothing more, nothing less.

    23. Re:Bombs in the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      True, and I'm a fart joke fanatic, but this Interview wasn't a good movie in any sense, and for any audience. It just wasn't funny. A few good gags and surprises don't make a film. Based on watching the entire thing even past credits I can confidently call The Interview a disappointment whose infamy is the sole reason for any rating over 4 on imdb.

    24. Re: Bombs in the US? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But at least it's consistent. If you truly believed that people will go to Hell if they don't convert, wouldn't it be your moral obligation to do everything you could to help them?
      Sure, the least annoying fanatics are the ones who leave you alone, but they are also, at best, hypocrites.

    25. Re:Bombs in the US? by TheKidWho · · Score: 2

      By fart of course, you mean, Fucking Art.

    26. Re:Bombs in the US? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Slingshots.

      Care packages back to the friends and family they left behind.

    27. Re: Bombs in the US? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe. Mormons always confused me. They come to your door and try to get you to convert, but they also believe that heaven only has room for 5000 people. So wouldn't you be better off keeping it to yourself?

      It turns out that God gives you afterlife credits for every unbeliever you convert. So it's important to convert a bunch of people so you can hopefully slip into one of the limited spots. Ahead of everyone you converted (and most of your co-religionists) presumably.

      Logical, non-hypocritical, but kinda mercenary if you ask me.

    28. Re:Bombs in the US? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      It's not the Cold War anymore. You don't have to pretend that any country that you don't like is communist. The hereditary dictatorship in North Korea is about as far as you can get from communism and stopped pretending to be communist some time ago. It still claims to be democratic though, so if you're going to object to political philosophies based on the buzzwords that dictators use, you should probably be complaining about democracy, not communism...

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    29. Re:Bombs in the US? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It's not the Cold War anymore.

      Yeah. About that... you might want to check a news site at least once a year.

    30. Re: Bombs in the US? by thaylin · · Score: 1

      There is nothing consistent about Christianity. As a former Christian it is a bunch of hypocrisy.

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    31. Re: Bombs in the US? by Cabriel · · Score: 1

      Not as such. The command was to spread the word about the glory of God and the promises He made. Going to hell isn't one of the promises; not spending eternity with him was. There isn't a whole lot of tangible information on what happens if you're a non-believer or a believer who falls short.

      Either way, if someone refuses the word of God, the instruction is DBAD (Don't Be A Dick).

    32. Re:Bombs in the US? by zieroh · · Score: 1

      And "raft" but I'm not sure I see either your or my point, unless you're confusing coincidence with reason.

      Sounds like someone hit a nerve.

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    33. Re:Bombs in the US? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      And said jokes will have been spread by someone named fahrbot. Who will deny any involvement vigorously.

    34. Re:Bombs in the US? by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

      On a raft.

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    35. Re: Bombs in the US? by whois_drek · · Score: 1

      No, that's not what Mormons believe. Perhaps you're thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses, who believe that 144,000 will go to heaven?

    36. Re:Bombs in the US? by Senior+Frac · · Score: 1

      This just in. My turkey sandwiches are absolute the best in the world! No one beats my turkey sandwich.

      How do I know? i made 3 and my family ate them all! Every single one!

    37. Re:Bombs in the US? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      It has nothing to do with theory, it is the literal contents of the books themselves, including slavery, rape, murder, demonising individuals etc. etc. etc.. If anyone wrote those books today and gathered a group of followers they would find themselves in prison. Seriously, those books should be subject to a class action lawsuit to force a public review of their true contents. You print and distribute them, means you should be held legally liable for the illegal contents, especially with regard to distribution to minors.

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    38. Re:Bombs in the US? by Mattcelt · · Score: 1

      Interesting point. And what other books should we censor solely at your recommendation while we're at it?

    39. Re:Bombs in the US? by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      If you follow the literal contents of the books you end up with the 10 commandments and good luck imitating God's killings without being God (a capital sin justified with a sin? sorry, it's downstairs for you).

      If you follow the literal contents you also assert you understand them 100% which is quite a feat, but never mind that.

      If somebody wrote books like those today, he'd find himself in the same position as the Mohammed guy, where his assertions would either be questioned or used, if fitting some powerful interest's agenda.

      So if you blame Mohammed instead of those interests, you make a great favor to those interests because they can change their ideology as easily as you can buy a pair of shoes.

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    40. Re:Bombs in the US? by Optali · · Score: 1

      They send balloons with stuff.
      http://www.newsweek.com/activi...

      They are doign this for years already and seemingly with good results.

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    41. Re:Bombs in the US? by fuzzy2k · · Score: 1

      When I saw it (Egyptian Theater, Hollywood CA, 12/25 5 PM) it was not sold out. The theater looked to be 25% to 35% of capacity.

      Spoiler Alert: It was a stupid movie, filled with lots of sophomoric humor. If you saw the trailer, you probably were expecting this movie as the one you would get.

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  2. What did you expect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This ain't charlie chaplin folks, it's a guy who built a career on man-boy humor and dick jokes. The fact that North Korea is so offended by this only confirms how absurdly immature their fearless leader really can be. A chubby Jewish guy almost toppled the whole charade with toilet humor.

  3. Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re: Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Muppet, sold out does not equal a good movie. All the hype leads to tourist viewers. Even though I like Seth's movies, this one was a pule of crap

    2. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      You know, if it wasn't for the Slashdot boycott of Sony, the take would be at least double.

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    3. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Microlith · · Score: 4, Informative

      That doesn't mean it's a good movie. Most of the sold out showings are because of the hype surrounding this incident. The reviews are pretty uniformly bad.

      People aren't flocking to it because it looked good, or because it is good. They're going mostly to spite the group that hacked Sony and North Korea.

    4. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Originally, it was to open in 3000+ theaters and gross 20-25 milions over the weekend. It's now projected to be about 2-3 million. And once all the Seth Rogen fans, and morons that think going to this shitty movie and giving their money to a corporation is an act of patriotism, or some act in defense of free speech have seen it, it will likely migrate to the bargain theaters and dvd very quickly since its unlikely for the big chains to show it having missed out on opening day receipts. Yeah, its a bomb.

    5. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by Threni · · Score: 2

      "That doesn't mean it's a good movie."

      What's that got to do with bombing? Nobody cares if a movie is any good; the people who make it only care about return on investment, then making a profit, and people who like it will like it regardless of other people's opinions.

    6. Re: Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by nedlohs · · Score: 2

      Bombing means not selling tickets, it has nothing to do with the quality of the movie (other than indirectly).

      Though it'll bomb due to the limited release, but now Sony has an excuse...

    7. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by nicholas22 · · Score: 1

      I've seen this movie, it's not great... Just a stoner movie. That is all. It probably had a net gain from all the kerfuffle as of late, but still, I couldn't recommend it. Cohen's "The Dictator" was much better, and that wasn't amazing either.

    8. Re: Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by IANAAC · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure how much "Selma" and "American Sniper" cost to produce/market/release, but there's been a lot of news blurbs stating that "The Interview" cost around 80 million to put out, around 30 million of that just on marketing.

      They still have a long way to go to break even, even with Hollywood's underhanded accounting.

    9. Re:Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by readin · · Score: 1

      That doesn't mean it's a good movie. Most of the sold out showings are because of the hype surrounding this incident. The reviews are pretty uniformly bad.

      People aren't flocking to it because it looked good, or because it is good. They're going mostly to spite the group that hacked Sony and North Korea.

      The way you say "hype" makes it sounds like advertising. I suspect this isn't people saying "let's go see what all the hype is about", it's Americans saying "we're going to reward Sony for releasing the film despite Kim's hissy fit, and we're going to make it clear to Kim that you can't mess with Americans and their right to free speech.

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    10. Re: Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      They still have a long way to go to break even, even with Hollywood's underhanded accounting.

      Not "even with" but "especially with". You can make a movie for $30M and it grosses $300M and that'll still be a "loss" on the books if anyone is due points on profit.

    11. Re: Oh yeah, it's "bombing" in the US alright... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      You're a little screwed up there. Hollywood accounting is used to "prove" a movie DIDN'T make money, not that it did. It means they don't pay out the percentages of gross that big money actors are paid.

  4. Not very funny? Is anybody surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want a good movie mocking a dictator?

    Duck Soup. It's like a thousand times as good as the Interview.

  5. Its not a good film by future+assassin · · Score: 2

    and acting was pretty bad although it was funny 1/3 of ht show. Basically it was border line Borat style shock comedy. The guy playing Kim Jong did the best acting vs the main stars.

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    1. Re:Its not a good film by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Part of the problem is the length. If they had cut out twenty to thirty minutes it would have been better. There is a tolerable 90 minute movie sitting there.

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    2. Re:Its not a good film by guacamole · · Score: 1

      Typical Seth Rogen movie, made by stoners, for other stoners. The best way to watch a Rogen movie is after smoking a joint. Then all the childish jokes you hear will make complete sense. This movie is about on the level with Pineapple Express, or slightly below. My favorite Rogen movie was "This is The End". That one was extremely well done comedy, and funny to most people, even without smoking a joint.

      The funniest thing about The Interview is that people all around the world, after learning of the Sony hack debacle, initially think about the movie as the flag bearer of the western values for its resolve to stand up to the brutal dictatorships Then they get shocked by the sophomoric jokes thrown around the movie, often involving words like dick and vaginas. It's unfortunate that The Interview wasn't anywhere as good as "This is The End"

    3. Re:Its not a good film by guacamole · · Score: 1

      PS: And please don't compare it to Borat. Borat was a well-made, innovative iconic film comedy and it still has a cult-like following. Without the Sony hack debacle, no one would remember The Interview six months from now.

    4. Re:Its not a good film by Uzuri · · Score: 1

      Maybe the joke really is on us. NK made a stink so that we'd all go waste time and money watching an awful movie (and being offended by it).

      Well played, NK, well played...

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  6. Why? by skam240 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Why do I keep seeing news agencies and the like reporting that The Interview is being "broadly panned" when it's not?

    http://www.metacritic.com/movi...
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/...

    The consensus seems to be that while it's a mediocre film it's good for a few laughs.

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  7. Nobel? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "It is powerful because it depicts Kim Jong-un as a vain, buffoonish despot, alternating between threats and weeping that he's been misunderstood. The people around him have all the signs of fear you might expect with a despot â" they second-guess his likes and dislikes. Maybe he â" and they â" were right to fear the film. North Korean defectors sometimes smuggle USB sticks with films and soaps into the closed-off country, and there is a view in the south that these are a particularly powerful means of undermining the regime in Pyongyang. If that's so, The Interview might be a good candidate for inclusion."

    If nothing else, it's rather sad that Seth Rogen and James Franco are able to have a bigger impact on North Korea than sanctions and every diplomat and US president since the end of the Korean War.

    This sounds like Nobel Peace Prize buzz to me. ;-)

    1. Re:Nobel? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This.

      I was watching the news the other day. They were reporting that the UN was considering what to do about Kim Jong Un and his horrid regime's human rights violations, in the wake of the Sony cyber-attack.

      The first thing that crossed my mind was: the only thing that prompted the UN to start worrying about the poor North Koreans is essentially a computer attack on some big corporation, and the damage it did to its bottom line. Before that, they really didn't give much of a shit, did they?

      The UN was really crass, both with their response and with their timing, and if it doesn't show you with glaring clarity whose interests they really have at heart, nothing else will.

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    2. Re:Nobel? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's utter BS. The UN released a report on human rights violations months before The Interview became a big issue. You should read it. The treatment of political prisoners (and christ, even unlucky bastards who happen to be distaff kin) is so harrowing that the only thing that really does come close was the Nazi death camps.

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    3. Re:Nobel? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I think Seth Rogen and James Franco should make dictator-mocking their shtick- they're way more likely to succeed with that strategy than anything they'll dream up by themselves. The jokes practically write themselves; in fact KJU is the only interesting character in this movie. So here are some ideas for sequels:
      • Benjamin Netanyahu: While on a trip to congratulate Netanyahu for winning a beauty pageant, Rogen and Franco realize that he won by launching missiles at all the other contestants.
      • Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Rogen and Franco are held hostage by the ISIS leader until he realizes that nobody in the U.S. cares if their heads get chopped off.
      • Vladimir Putin: Rogen and Franco score an interview with the shirtless ruthless dictator. Unfortunately Franco enters the country with a dollar bill in his pocket and inadvertently causes a currency crisis. Then one day Rogen drinks tea laced with polonium 210 and things get wild.
    4. Re:Nobel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would pay to watch a Putin mockumentary
      It writes itself

    5. Re:Nobel? by KermodeBear · · Score: 1

      It's very nice that they released a report. Maybe the next move will be a very strongly worded letter!

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    6. Re:Nobel? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't get all your news from television. Especially American television.

      The UN has a regular stream of reports going back decades investigating North Korean human rights abuses and recommending sanctions be eased on necessities in order to improve the standard of living. You've only heard about it this week because the media is interested, because of the Sony hack.

    7. Re:Nobel? by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      The part about the depiction of Kim Jong-un being perceived as dangerous is very believable. The Vice Guide to North Korea rather powerfully demonstrates the absurd levels of state propoganda in North Korea. The government portrays their dear leaders as a sort of god-man who is regarded as the greatest of all leaders by every nation on earth.

      A film that mocks the leader as a buffoon and crybaby would indeed be a very dangerous thing inside that country.

    8. Re:Nobel? by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      I think Seth Rogen and James Franco should make dictator-mocking their shtick- they're way more likely to succeed with that strategy than anything they'll dream up by themselves. The jokes practically write themselves; in fact KJU is the only interesting character in this movie. So here are some ideas for sequels:

      • Benjamin Netanyahu: While on a trip to congratulate Netanyahu for winning a beauty pageant, Rogen and Franco realize that he won by launching missiles at all the other contestants.
      • Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Rogen and Franco are held hostage by the ISIS leader until he realizes that nobody in the U.S. cares if their heads get chopped off.
      • Vladimir Putin: Rogen and Franco score an interview with the shirtless ruthless dictator. Unfortunately Franco enters the country with a dollar bill in his pocket and inadvertently causes a currency crisis. Then one day Rogen drinks tea laced with polonium 210 and things get wild.

      I was thinking, if someone started making a movie about the assassination of Barak Obama (while he is in office) and for the research on the movie they visited the USA, I bet that would turn out really well for them.

      Just sayin, when the shoe is on the other foot...

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    9. Re:Nobel? by DeVilla · · Score: 2

      If nothing else, it's rather sad that Seth Rogen and James Franco are able to have a bigger impact on North Korea than sanctions and every diplomat and US president since the end of the Korean War.

      This sounds like Nobel Peace Prize buzz to me. ;-)

      It's been given for less.

    10. Re:Nobel? by goddidit · · Score: 1

      OK, Hans. I'll show you. Stand to your reft.

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  8. Counter-culture in full effect! by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

    So many people are panning this movie. Have you guys posting negative comments actually seen it, or are you just reacting to the press?

    I mean, I get it -- there's bound to be some sort of automatic counter-culture response to defend against the massive amount of press talking about how controversial and important it is.

    Yes, it's a little controversial to target an actual country and an actual leader so directly. But you know what, their message while embellished for comedic effect isn't really far off base. I think the world could use some more of this controversy, and there's nothing saying this type of thing needs to be in dry journalistic form.

    As far as the movie itself goes --- it's a Seth Rogan bromance dick joke movie. It really doesn't bring anything new to the table. It's not his best movie, but it's by no means bad. It's fun and entertained me the whole way through.

  9. Meh by lennier1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a movie that includes Seth Rogen!
    What did you expect? A new Schindler's List?!?

    1. Re:Meh by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      It's a movie that includes Seth Rogen!
      What did you expect? A new Schindler's List?!?

      Well at this time of the year you should always check your lists twice.

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    2. Re:Meh by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I wouldn't say it was quite as good as "This is the end"; but it was still exactly what I thought it would be and was fun entertainment. Seems like with the hype the critics went in looking for an Oscar winning think-piece. They must have missed all the trailers...

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  10. wow, it's not even Jan 1, let alone April 1 by wardk · · Score: 1

    the movie has been sold out in limited theaters
    the most pirated movie of christmas (this should be a slashdot money shot)
    the movie is funny as hell.

    I hope this article is meant to be satire

  11. Re: Hopefully by Free+Censorship · · Score: 2

    I don't see why only disliking stupid jokes is a liberal-only thing. It seems more like what is and is not funny is subjective.

  12. Re: Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I'm almost embarrassingly rich thanks to a wealthy family, I've never understood the US obsession with wealth as an indicator of anything except... that a person has cash or other material assets. There are many ways to become rich, and almost none of them involve much productivity, let alone effort.

  13. Culture and information matter. by coldsalmon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The North Korean regime's survival depends on keeping its people completely uninformed. Here's an article about how even a little bit of information about the outside world can destroy the carefully constructed myths that sustain North Korean society: http://articles.latimes.com/20...

    "About two years ago, a North Korean who worked in the state fisheries division was on a boat in the Yellow Sea when his transistor radio picked up a South Korean situation comedy. The radio program featured two young women who were fighting over a parking space in their apartment complex.
    A parking space? The North Korean was astonished by the idea that there was a place with so many cars that there would be a shortage of places to park them. Although he was in his late 30s and a director of his division, he had never met anyone who owned their own car.
    The North Korean never forgot that radio show and ended up defecting to South Korea last year."

    The article is old, but I don't think things have changed much in North Korea.

    1. Re:Culture and information matter. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because you can't check alternative media sources in the United States. No sirree, there's only one state broadcaster that plays nothing but pro-US government material all year long...

      Fucking hell, you fucking moron. There's lots to condemn the US over, but I'd say it would be hard to think of a country with more diversity of voices, to the point of a loud braying cacophony.

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    2. Re:Culture and information matter. by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Oh I'm not a righty.

    3. Re: Culture and information matter. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about USA or the Fox News Nation?

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    4. Re:Culture and information matter. by dj245 · · Score: 1

      The North Korean regime's survival depends on keeping its people completely uninformed. Here's an article about how even a little bit of information about the outside world can destroy the carefully constructed myths that sustain North Korean society: http://articles.latimes.com/20...

      "About two years ago, a North Korean who worked in the state fisheries division was on a boat in the Yellow Sea when his transistor radio picked up a South Korean situation comedy. The radio program featured two young women who were fighting over a parking space in their apartment complex. A parking space? The North Korean was astonished by the idea that there was a place with so many cars that there would be a shortage of places to park them. Although he was in his late 30s and a director of his division, he had never met anyone who owned their own car. The North Korean never forgot that radio show and ended up defecting to South Korea last year."

      The article is old, but I don't think things have changed much in North Korea.

      They have. When I was there earlier this year, we got stuck in legitimate traffic jams a couple of different times. There are about 10 times as many cars on the road as there were just 5 years ago, according to the (Australian) tour guide. It is the single biggest and most visible sign of change he had seen.

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    5. Re:Culture and information matter. by Livius · · Score: 1

      If North Korea tries to prevent people from seeing it, it may convince those who do see it that all the implicit criticism of the regime is based on reality. (Which I suspect it largely is.)

    6. Re:Culture and information matter. by Livius · · Score: 2

      It keeps its people *largely* uninformed. Any attempt to completely cut off reliable information would trigger push back and be counter-productive. Actually, they seem to have found a very good balance where for minimal effort the people keep themselves mostly uninformed.

      Completely uninformed, however, is flat-out wrong.

    7. Re:Culture and information matter. by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Oh the hell they do. That's simply bullshit.

    8. Re:Culture and information matter. by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Historically speaking, defectors from the Soviet Union were most utterly shocked and amazed by grocery stores.

      The idea that there could be SO MUCH FOOD that people could browse around, pick and choose, pass up fruits or vegetables as not quite pretty enough, and that the stores would routinely throw out unwanted food was simply unfathomable.

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    9. Re:Culture and information matter. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      A swing and a miss? More like knocking himself out with the follow-through.

      Anybody who honestly thinks Libertarians are tools of the Right is too ignorant to be dangerous.

      And anyone who thinks Ted Cruz is a Libertarian could probably learn a lot from a school of those trout.

    10. Re:Culture and information matter. by drfred79 · · Score: 1

      I gotta kinda agree with you. The final jobs report before the re-election of President Obama was doctored by practically a whole percentage to help his re-election. The press reported it as fact and didn't bother looking into a mega huge bump in jobs. Additionally, there was the equivalent of radio silence when an American ambassador was under assault for hours and available troops were told not to save him. The extent the media went to to re-elect President Obama was unethical.

    11. Re:Culture and information matter. by drfred79 · · Score: 1

      I appreciate that your suggestions were government owned media.

    12. Re: Culture and information matter. by drfred79 · · Score: 1

      Benghazi

    13. Re:Culture and information matter. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      No they are not government owned.
      Get a clue how other countries media world works.

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    14. Re:Culture and information matter. by g4sy · · Score: 1

      Both are government funded. Both only represent viewpoints which are approved by the political class of their respective countries. What's your definition of owned? You think that because they spun it off into a "public corporation" that things a-ok?

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    15. Re:Culture and information matter. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      They are not government owned.

      Or do you think every election the broadcaster changes its owner?

      They are not even state owned if that is what you want to say ... perhaps read about the relevant laws.

      And neither government nor state has any influence on their programs.

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  14. It had some funny bits by JeffElkins · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But not enough to justify a pair of full-price tickets. I will give it this; it was better than any Adam Sandler or Jim Carrey movie I've seen.

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    1. Re:It had some funny bits by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      I will give it this; it was better than any Adam Sandler or Jim Carrey movie I've seen.

      The movie "Click" was a good reminder to me to not let work-related worries cause me to miss my childrens' childhoods.

    2. Re:It had some funny bits by excelsior_gr · · Score: 3, Informative

      You might want to reconsider Jim Carrey. The Truman Show, Man On The Moon and Eternal Sunshine Of The Spottless Mind are quite good movies.

  15. what China should do is by FudRucker · · Score: 1, Interesting

    invade North Korea, depose the North Korean government, and depose & disarm the North Korean military, and once they stabilized it, hand it over to South Korea

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    1. Re:what China should do is by xlsior · · Score: 4, Insightful

      invade North Korea, depose the North Korean government, and depose & disarm the North Korean military, and once they stabilized it, hand it over to South Korea

      ...Except China likes having North Korea as a buffer zone between it and the much more democratic and western-aligned South Korea. Having a crackpot dictatorship on its borders helps China's own citizens from getting to many 'crazy' ideas in their head -- "Look how great we have it here!"

    2. Re:what China should do is by Livius · · Score: 1

      China should do lots of things. I'm not hold my breath on China doing any of them.

      I could say the same about a lot of countries and quite a few corporations.

    3. Re:what China should do is by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      The problem is then they would own North Korea.

      North Korea still exists because it is a mountainous wasteland that nobody particularly wants. It does not have a rich cache of resources, and can't even grow enough food to feed its people.

      China likes the buffer to South Korea. South Korea looks at all the money they'd have to spend to uplift North Korea and says, "We'll pass".

    4. Re:what China should do is by gman003 · · Score: 1

      What South Korea should do is invade North Korea, topple their government, depose their "glorious leader", disarm their military, and then hand it over to China, saying "you're the ones who propped up their insane government and made all this mess, you get to deal with all the consequences."

    5. Re:what China should do is by belmolis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That isn't entirely true. North Korea is not well suited for agriculture, and due to the war and mismanagement the economy is a mess, but it has large ore deposits. Mining is a significant component of the economy even now, and with good management and investment for infrastructure (such as adequate electrical power) could grow considerably.

    6. Re:what China should do is by guacamole · · Score: 1

      It's strange that China is afraid of having a Western style democracy and a market economy right at its border considering that within China's own borders and territory one can witness a wild west style of capitalist economy and a sharp division between the haves and havenots.

    7. Re:what China should do is by g4sy · · Score: 1

      Such inequality is only possible with a strong central government. But it was funny to watch you observe reality and get confused because it didn't match the government propaganda you've been spoon-fed 18hrs a day since the age of 5.

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  16. Re:Hopefully by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    First Seth Rogen movie for you? I thought it was one of his better ones, though I still think it sucked. Still, despite all the schlock, it did make the important point that North Korea is a vile regime that condemns millions to near-starvation conditions while the elite live in astonishing luxury. It paints with a broad brush to be sure, but beneath it all there is a true chord playing.

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  18. Re:Label: Out of Courtesy by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    I thought the head explosion scene was pretty anticlimactic. If you're going to make this kind of movie, why tuck your balls away at the climax?

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  19. Re:It's funny guys by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    It's North Korea. They spend half their time proclaiming how they're going to wipe out their enemies. They're media is in a constant state of hysteria.

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  20. Re: Hopefully by sjames · · Score: 1

    Or someone who is aware that that audience exists and is fairly large. I'm not part of it but I don't have to be to know it's size is significant.

  21. Re: Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just did a line while having my dick sucked browsing slashdot. It's the only way to live.

  22. Re:Meets Expectations by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    The real highlight came with the "I'm gay" Eminem interview at the beginning. My hats off to Marshall Mathers.

    The next 105 minutes was a bit of a let down.

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  23. For a country where Kim Jong UN by dixonpete · · Score: 2

    is revered as a god, I can see an awful lot of North Koreans trying to sneak a look at this movie. it could potentially be a game changer for them to see how the world looks at their perfect leader. Might even topple the government. Probably not, but one can hope.

    1. Re:For a country where Kim Jong UN by Livius · · Score: 1

      If it gives people a shared experience of criticizing or at least questioning their leadership -- well, lots of revolutions started with less.

  24. The only negative reviews are coming from... by Karmashock · · Score: 1, Troll

    ... either people that don't like slapstick comedy or people that don't like the political message of the movie.

    Actually read the bad reviews. They're like reading bad Amazon reviews... "This 20 dollar jack is no where near as good as my 400 dollar jacket... 1 star!" Or "I can't recharge my computer with this USB cable... 1 star!"... They're fucking stupid.

    They keep saying stuff like "the humor is crude"... really, you complete waste of human life? That is fucking shocking. It is a stupid screw ball comedy, fuckwit.

    Anyway, you just need to filter the idiot reviewers from the ones that understand what genre they're reviewing. And my god there are a lot of fucking idiots working for the mainstream newspapers. I read these reviews and can see very clearly why these newspapers are having circulation issues. They are staffed almost entirely with morons.

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    1. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by mean+pun · · Score: 1

      So, you're saying you have to be intelligent to appreciate movies like this?

      That's a rather, er, unusual point of view.

      Or perhaps the critics are the wrong kind of idiot?

    2. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Anyway, you just need to filter the idiot reviewers from the ones that understand what genre they're reviewing.

      You mean, movies for idiots. Which suggests the question, who are these movies for? I mean, if you have to be an idiot to enjoy them, but idiots are panning them...

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    3. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Copid · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think he's saying that a restaurant reviewer who goes into a burger joint and shits all over it in his review because they didn't have sushi is probably not adding much useful information to the review-o-sphere.

      I don't like most childrens movies because I'm an adult and I find them childish. But if somebody was paying me to write informative reviews and I had to review a kids' movie, I wouldn't spend a lot of time bemoaning the simplistic plot line, limited charater development or overly bright color pallette. Complaining that the latest Disney Princess movie didn't have the same set of elements that made No Country for Old Men appealing sort of misses the point. It's not even sensible enough to be considered wrong.

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    4. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      False. Slapstick comedies have been around for as long as film itself and many of the producers of such films have been amongst the most talented actors.

      Imagine if there were a movie where Laurel and Hardy were recruited by the some intelligence service to kill Hitler or something... same thing.

      The only people getting upset by this are either people that simply don't like slap stick comedy. Or people that find the political message of the movie disturbing and realizing that criticizing it directly is counter productive... simply attack the movie itself.

      I've seen no criticism of the movie that can fall into anything but those two categories.

      If you have a problem with the politics as most of the stuffier political types do... then just admit it and we can talk about that honestly. If rather you don't like slap stick comedies... that's fine. However they are a genre of film much like romantic comedies or horror films etc. You judge such films by the standards of their genre. If you are unfamiliar with the genre or unwilling to recognize its own internal rules then you're just disqualifying yourself from having a meaningful opinion.

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    5. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      Bingo. It is always gratifying to run into someone that doesn't have their head shoved directly up their own ass.

      *tips hat*

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    6. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      False. Slapstick comedies have been around for as long as film itself and many of the producers of such films have been amongst the most talented actors.

      So you're comparing this to Keaton or Chaplin? I think you missed the mark there.

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    7. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      Perhaps a modern laurel and hardy or three stooges. You're allowing yourself to get turned off too easily by dirty jokes and violence.

      The culture has changed to make such things acceptable. If Chaplin or the Marx brothers were making movies today they'd doubtless contain some dirtier jokes then what they told in their day.

      You have to compensate for the times.

      Regardless, if you're determined to be unreasonable then I can't do anything for you here. The error is yours and the imperfection is yours.

      This is what slapstick comedy is in the 21st century in large part because this is what gets people in the 21st century to laugh.

      If you did a Chaplin movie today, everyone would find it very boring and it would be a financial disaster.

      Compensate for the times and compensate for the genre or you're not judging the movie. Rather you're judging the times and judging the genre. Which is like complaining that there was a lot of blood in a horror movie.

      It is an opinion too flawed and confused to be worthy of note.

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    8. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You're allowing yourself to get turned off too easily by dirty jokes and violence.

      No, I'm turned off easily by crudeness substituted for cleverness, and violence used in lieu of plot. The idea that viewers cannot be arsed to care unless something is exploding and/or someone is dying is insulting.

      If you did a Chaplin movie today, everyone would find it very boring and it would be a financial disaster.

      And if The Interview were released on its own merits, the same thing would happen.

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    9. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      As to crudeness substituted for cleverness, there is little difference from the old slapstick comedies. The only change is to make the joke dirtier. But the actual cleverness of the joke is generally the same.

      Slapstick comedy is actually quite ancient and the jokes are pretty much always the same. You could have watched one 1000 years ago that had jokes of a similar nature.

      As to the merits of the interview, that would be making people laugh. And it does... so... you're wrong.

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    10. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      As to the merits of the interview, that would be making people laugh. And it does... so... you're wrong.

      The question is whether enough people who saw it would recommend it to people who hadn't seen it to get this many asses in seats, so that the movie would be successful. This is a question that probably cannot be answered, but I suspect that the answer is actually no. When people come to the theater determined to have a good time, it's more likely that they will, and if they didn't have a good time then the terrists woulda won, by god and all that is holy, et cetera.

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    11. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      The problem with that argument is that it works on anything and therefore is fallacious.

      Any system that outputs the same answer despite input is not a system.

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    12. Re:The only negative reviews are coming from... by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Complaining that the latest Disney Princess movie didn't have the same set of elements that made No Country for Old Men appealing sort of misses the point.

      What an awesome juxtaposition. It is a shame it is too long for a .sig heh. :)

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  25. Re:I'll wait for it on Netflix. by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 1

    Me neither.

    "Steaming" would be more appropriate for this turd...

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  26. Re:Why would I buy it when... by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When you can download or watch it for free. I have never gotten the people around here who say piracy doesn't hurt sales, of course I am going to seek the cheapest method possible to get it. I don't give a shit about DRM/IP/etc.. I am cheap and not some evangelical mission.

    Because you wouldn't have bought it anyway, duh.

    Mod parent up. Piracy has always been a non-threat. Pirates don't buy. They're never a missed sale, they're simply a no-sale.

  27. As others have said... by ArtFart · · Score: 2

    ...it's about what we've come to expect from Rogen and his pals. In parts hilarious, disgusting, inane, chaotic (well, most of it was that...), thought-provoking, puerile and brilliant. Not unlike reality.

  28. Re:Not very funny? Is anybody surprised? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 2

    I'd say Last King Of Scotland but that's hardly a comedy...

    relevance to Slashdotters: Dana Scully is in a supporting role! :)

  29. Low-key, subtle humour by ve3oat · · Score: 1

    The movie "suffers from" low-key and subtle humour, much appreciated in a number of different countries and cultures but not so much in the USA. (Several of these countries also spell "humor" with two U's.)

  30. Submission Title by Nemyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it just me who found the title for this submission a little strange, especially considering the hackers threatened to bomb the theaters which'd show the movie? I initially misread it into thinking they actually did it somehow.

  31. Not a single teenager READS REVIEWS!!! by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    Do you reviewers understand!?

    If buying a $40 3DBluray sure, but $5 movie, no.

    Teens use their friends as guides, "Hey I saw this, you gota see it", or "X was so so sad, dont waste your money"

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  32. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Pirates" are not definable in absolutes like that. Some studies have shown they are the biggest consumers of both paid and "stolen" media.

    Saying they are simply a non-threat/no-sale is just as intellectually dishonest as when the RIAA/MPAA claim every pirated copy is a fully lost sale.

  33. depiction by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    "It depicts Kim Jong-un as a vain, buffoonish despot, alternating between threats and weeping that he's been misunderstood..."

    Yeah, I highly doubt he gives a shit about being misunderstood. The rest of it is spot on.

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  34. So they're actually getting dumber? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, we read reviews, we had a free paper and we used it. Now you have so many options for free reviews that the hardest part is deciding which one you like the best, and kids don't read reviews any more?

    Either you're off your nut, or kids are actually getting dumber.

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  35. A review from someone who's actually seen it by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

    I saw it earlier today via YouTube. It certainly wasn't great, and it can't be compared with classics like "The Great Dictator" or "Duck Soup", but I was surprised how much I liked it. It was much more entertaining than either the trailer or the reviews suggested. The story was reasonably engaging, there were some good gags, the actors weren't bad, and it even had a few points to make. I always count my yawns during a movie, and FWIW, it ended up getting my highest rating of zero yawns - go figure.

    My major complaint with it was its near-continuous use of the "F" word. (Sorry to spoil that for those of you who were wondering.) If Seth Rogen and his buddies talk like in real life, maybe they were just being realistic relative to their particular juvenile reality. But the movie would have been better without that.

    In the old days, a movie would use just one or two F-words to guarantee an "R" rating, and with the mission accomplished, they'd move on. I seem to remember that one film even cut in an "R" rating notice in the middle of the film just after the first F-word. (Help me out Kids: which movie was that?) And of course, there's the famous South Park episode where the F-word was basically the whole point of the episode. But I don't see any point to it here. Less is more on that, Folks: after one or two F-bombs, it doesn't have any effect and just becomes annoying. (BTW: same goes here. :-) It's like those folks who constantly say "like" or "knowwhatamsayin?" Like, knowwhatamsayin?

    1. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by I_Lost_My_Puppy · · Score: 1


      The movie you are looking for is Student Bodies.

      Ladies and gentlemen, in order to achieve an "R" rating today, a motion picture must contain full frontal nudity, graphic violence, or an explicit reference to the sex act.

    2. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by ClioCJS · · Score: 1

      Someone worrying about F-count == someone whose opinions are based on such antiquated measures as to be wholly irrelevant to me. And I'm 40, so ... Hmm.

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    3. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      Likewise, the opinions of someone who throws out the baby with the bathwater are wholly irrelevant to me. ;-)

      Anyway, it sounds like you're from the more-is-more school of the F-word. As someone who is over 17, I don't quite understand that, but to each his own, so ... Hmm.

    4. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      My wife watched American History X once with me and some friends on cable or something where a lot of the swearing was bleeped out. She commented that the profuse swearing seemed totally unrealistic to her. My friends thought it was hilarous because it made very evident her different upbringing and social circles. Some people really do talk like that, and yes it probably means that they don't mean that swearing as emphatically as if my wife were to do it. The context of swearing, as with anything else, is a key part of understanding it. If you think a movie is over using swearing you probably are missing the context.

      Speaking of mediocre to poor movies and swearing though. My wife got me Dark Shadows this year as a gag gift. One of the few redeeming bits of the movie was the main characters insults. He didn't use swear words because they weren't part of his vocabularly but instead used eloquent verses of curse.

    5. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe people really do talk like that in real life, but I've never met any myself. Anyway, I guess that explains the extensive use of that word here on \., which has puzzled me at times. Every time I see that, I think "Don't they know that they come off as kindda coarse and dumb when they write that?"

      Regardless, my original point was that the overuse of any word gets old, in real life and especially in a movie. Along with the F-word, I had cited "like" and "knowwhatimsaying?" as common examples. The latter two get overused in real life more than in movies, but imagine a movie overflowing with either one. Now *that* would be grounds for a cyberattack on a film.

      My "less is more" point of view basically comes down to the idea that writing is about communication, and the overuse of any word communicates little. Or, as stated more succinctly in Strunk and White, "Omit needless words." IIRC, in "The Interview", the use of the F-word only conveyed actual information (about the sex act) in a couple of instances. Otherwise, it conveyed the idea that the main characters were kindda coarse and dumb. But that idea got communicated in a matter of seconds. And The Three Stooges managed to convey that idea throughout their entire career without using the F-word once. Clearly, Rogen and Franco are no Three Stooges...

    6. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      Coincidentally, the other day I ran into an article called Why I Don't Use Coffeescript that uses the F word repeatedly in an article that doesn't seem to have any need for it. But maybe the author really talks and thinks that way, so it's just natural for him to write stuff (er, sorry, "sh*t") that way.

    7. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      This kind of reminds me of 1984 and Newspeak. Only it seems that in reality many people are willing to self limit their vocabulary. I wonder what ramificaions that will have in our society in the long term.

    8. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      I think self-limiting of vocabulary has always been the case in polite society. I assume English is not unique in terms of having a set of taboo words. These words derive their power from their taboo-ness: otherwise, they're just the same as any other word.

      When people use these things in a casual way, they dilute their power. It's notable that people who use the F-word regularly have to use it a LOT - just as I saw in "The Interview". They somehow seem to think that repetition brings the word's power back, whereas that only dilutes it further.

      There has always been a hierarchy of how taboo each of these words actually is. The F-word is somewhere near the top of the hierarchy, along with the G-word. One word near the bottom is "crap". But I now hear teenagers using that very causually, so perhaps it soon will drop off the list. Or maybe (as they see it) it already has, and I'm just another clueless adult.

    9. Re:A review from someone who's actually seen it by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I was actually thinking of self limiting vocabulary in the opposite direction, people using profuse vulgarities instead of a more diverse vocabulary.

  36. Funny Crappy Movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    40+ critics might think this movie is shit and it is a shit movie but god damn was it a funny movie. If you're looking for cinematic enlightenment then you're stupider than the movie you've criticized.

  37. Blockbuster? Bomb? by Nethead · · Score: 2

    I've never understood this one, a blockbuster is a great movie while a bomb is a bad one. But a blockbuster is a bomb. WTF?

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    1. Re:Blockbuster? Bomb? by quenda · · Score: 1
  38. Re: Hopefully by Free+Censorship · · Score: 1

    You keep speaking of "liberals" as if they're a hivemind, much as some speak of "conservatives" as if they're a hivemind. You're just making hasty generalizations.

    Looks like you've been duped into believing the left vs right/liberal vs conservative false dichotomy scam.

  39. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Free+Censorship · · Score: 2

    Hardly. They obviously believe the product has some value or they wouldn't have stolen it.

    Worth downloading != worth paying money for.

  40. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Free+Censorship · · Score: 1

    "Piracy" is a propaganda term. Copyright infringement is a non-threat because, even in the event of a "lost sale" (you can't truly lose sales because you never had them in your possession), you still lose nothing; you merely don't gain.

  41. It's even funnier by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    When retards make a comment like that on a public site, hosted in the US, viewed primarily by US citizens. You would think they could see the inherently contradictory nature of such a thing but no, they are convinced somehow that the US government clamps down on information like a repressive regime, yet somehow managed to miss this, and the millions of other, sites hosted in its borders.

  42. Re: Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Have you ever actually watched the Daily Show? They go after the president when the president does something ridiculous. Fox News is a pretty easy target because they're extremely hypocritical and they give air time to idiots like Palin. CNN is also a frequent target. Don't worry about Hillary. I'm sure Boehner will find something in the 8th congressional witch hunt that he didn't turn up in the first seven.

  43. Re: Hopefully by lgw · · Score: 1

    "Liberals" could mean just about anyone, but the very vocal SJW crowd are famous for being humorless, prudish buzzkills. What used to be the case for the right wing religious whackos is now true of the left wing SJWs: they lay awake at night worrying that someone, somewhere might be having a good time. No more representative of the mainstream left than the televangelists were of the mainstream right, but boy are they vocal. Heck, some of them are probably the same people, just with a new excuse for moral scolding and finger wagging.

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  44. "Bombs in the US" by __aanbvm4272 · · Score: 1

    OMG can you imagine?... "bombs in the US" NSA smokes computers on misguided info...haaaah! Nice to think for yourself now a days. Who can you believe? Not the media-owned networks. (have you seen the forgotten?) Damn NBC / Universal Studios pluggin' crap

  45. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Pentium100 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Piracy is convenient.

    Downloading - a few minutes of my time to start the download. Then after it finishes (which is very fast usually), I can watch the movie on whatever device that has enough processing power and a screen, at any time having full control of it.

    Going to the cinema (in general) - need to drive to wherever the cinema is, at a specified time, watch it with a bunch of strangers (that may include screaming children), no control whatsoever - cannot pause the movie to go to the toilet, cannot rewind a few seconds to rewatch a scene I missed, cannot increase or reduce the sound volume, cannot even have a conversation with whoever I came to watch the movie (assuming I did not come alone) during a boring part. Forced to watch ads before the movie. Cannot bring the food that I want (that is not sold (at high prices) in the cinema). The movie has to be recent enough to still be showed in cinemas.

    Going to the cinema (this particular movie) - All of the above but include traveling to the US, getting a hotel room etc.

    Buying a DVD/Bluray - Better than going to the cinema, but still have to go to a store that sells them, have to sit through a bunch of unskippable ads.

    Time from "Hey, let's watch a movie! Which one? [googles some previously unheard of movie] This one." to actually watching it:
    DVD: 30 minutes - 1 hour (assuming the store is open), days (if the store is closed).
    Cinema: 30 minutes - 3 hours (assuming the movie is being shown in cinemas and the cinema is open), days (if the cinema is closed), undefined (if the movie is not shown in cinemas).
    Download: 5 - 30 minutes (my internet connection is up to 500mbps).

    Oh, and Netflix is not available in my country in case you were going to suggest it.

    So, see, even if the tickets for the movie (or the DVDs at the store) were given away for free, downloading would be the preferred option.

  46. Re:Why would I buy it when... by nblender · · Score: 1

    We were just given a gift card to go to the movies as a family... I'm now dreading the experience. In a way, I feel like I'm being paid to go to the theater and watch a show and yet I'm still not looking forward to it.

  47. Re:Not very funny? Is anybody surprised? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

    Duck Soup. It's like a thousand times as good as the Interview.

    Plus it's got the mirror scene. I'll bet The Interview doesn't have that.

  48. Watched it three times already, still love it by drfred79 · · Score: 1

    The only people who hate this movie are those who want to look like sophisticated critics and the overly sensitive. Every bad review I've read are borderline illiterate and moronic, and they are on legitimate websites. I'm sorry but this movie isn't serious, because it's a comedy. Yes there are sexist, anti-semetic, and homophobic jokes. The writers realize these aren't allowed in a normal public situation, that's the joke. We never hear about North Korea because we don't really have a solution to a nuclear capable totalitarian dictatorship. It's good to put the spotlight on them.

  49. Bombed? by schlachter · · Score: 1

    Really? I thought it was really funny. Most of my friends rented it on release day, and most of them thought it was at least kinda funny. No one thought it was bad.

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  50. Funny at moments. by mapuche · · Score: 1

    It's very Seth Rogen driven comedy, funny at moments but most part of it smells a little like US propaganda. It depicts a smart, maniac and manipulative Kim Jung Un. Funny enough, we know CIA it's capable of trying to murder a foreign leader.

  51. Re:USBs are smuggled like cocain in NK by dryeo · · Score: 1

    Of course this raises the question of how people too poor to eat can read a USB stick. Perhaps the average N. Korean owns a computer?

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  52. are you kidding me? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    It has Seth Rogan in it and it has the setting of an intellectual comedy film sort of like Frasier and people are surprise it "isn't very funny?" THEY'RE SURPRISED?! How is that surprising to anyone?

  53. Re:Why would I buy it when... by stoploss · · Score: 1

    Pirates don't buy.

    Of course they don't. They're too cheap to pay for something someone has produced and believe they are entitled to take what they want. [...] They obviously believe the product has some value or they wouldn't have stolen it.

    Not really. I'm actively considering pirating the Interview then immediately deleting it, unwatched. I could easily afford to pay to stream the movie, but I hate Sony only slightly less than I hate the influenza A virus.

    If one doesn't believe something have value, why steal it in the first place?

    On principle. I don't actually want to see this movie. "Free" is a price too high for this. I imagine I would want to take a shower after viewing it, and I have no desire to invest a fraction of my life in watching such drivel.

    However, I strongly believe we should not be cowed into self-censorship by threats. Therefore, I feel a compulsion to access this movie in defiance of said threats, a goal which is in tension with my strong desire to give Sony nothing of value.

    Ergo, the degenerate solution of pirating and deleting the movie unwatched. It's a logically consistent position.

  54. Re: Why would I buy it when... by r33per · · Score: 1

    No no. It's because they'd cut me open and eat me hearties.

  55. I didn't think it was that bad.... by ogdenk · · Score: 1

    For a Seth Rogen movie, it wasn't bad. Certainly no worse than most of the other movies he's done. I thought it was funny personally.

  56. Bombs in the U.S.? by Drgan · · Score: 1

    I highly doubt that the movie is being heralded as unfunny or even a failed movie in the US. The movie was also released online which means that people did not need to go to the limited number of theaters it was released in to go see it. Just about everyone I know, myself included, have watched the movie and found it to be hilarious. We all watched it online.

  57. Re:Why would I buy it when... by Free+Censorship · · Score: 1

    Ergo, the degenerate solution of pirating and deleting the movie unwatched. It's a logically consistent position.

    No, it's ridiculous. You're not sticking up for freedom of speech or against censorship by downloading one of Sony's awful movies. But at least you're not going to give an evil company like Sony money; only an absolute idiot would do that, and sadly there are a lot of those.

  58. What do the French think of it? by sudon't · · Score: 1

    The Interview Bombs In US, Kills In China, Threatens N. Korea

    Yeah, but what do the French think of it?

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  59. Re:Why would I buy it when... by scarboni888 · · Score: 1

    Actually this isn't completely true: there's been numerous times I have actually paid for something I otherwise would not have DUE TO having 'borrowed' it first; turning a 'no sale' into a sale directly via the mechanism of so-called 'piracy'.

  60. Re:Choices... by chasm22 · · Score: 1

    Kim , You seem to be confusing the US with your father.

  61. Re:Atheism doesn't give man the right by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

    > Given that atheism doesn't give any exclusive right of life and death to man...
    not directly, but those are details.
    who is the source of any system of values so far? for atheism, man.

    > All non-religious texts?
    yes, if you follow the rationale behind banning the description of a god's action, you ought to realize that the removal of such god is even more dangerous. In other words, waiting for a god to possess you and make you kill (which is the only way to be sure a god is behind it) is safer than wondering whether to kill or not.

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  62. My opinion by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    I've never seen a Seth Rogan movie before. I probably won't ever see one again. It was better than I expected, but that's not saying much. It had its funny points, but it was still a crap movie. The good thing is, I only paid 6 bucks, I watched it in the comfort of my own home, and my food was a whole lot cheaper and better than the theater crap.

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  63. Bomb? by Dripdry · · Score: 1

    I saw it!

    Movie was juvenile, but I actually found it pretty hilarious. Not high-brow funny, and a little stunted sometimes, but I laughed. I'm not sure I need to see the movie again (ok ok, it was pretty low-brow yuks, for sure) but it was a good enough time (I didn't pay to see it, so....)

    SPOILERTH:
    it could have had a much better ending, with Kim Jong-un faking his death and moving to a different country, or abdicating and becoming a disco dancing star, or something happier than getting blown up, but that's just my 2 cents.

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