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AirAsia Flight Goes Missing Between Indonesia and Singapore

iONiUM (530420) writes As reported by many news sources, yet another plane has lost contact during a trip. This comes on the heels of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 which is still missing, and Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, which was shot down. From ABC's coverage: Sixteen children and one infant were among the passengers. At a press conference this morning, Indonesian officials said the plane was several hours past the time when its fuel would have been exhausted. The six-year-old aircraft was on the submitted flight plan but requested a deviation because of enroute weather before communication with the aircraft was lost. The plane was under the control of the Indonesian Air Traffic Control and had been in the air for about 42 minutes when contact was lost, AirAsia said.

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  1. Developing Story by spacefight · · Score: 5, Informative

    With regular updates: http://www.aeroinside.com/item...

  2. Re:Note to Self.... by Panoptes · · Score: 4, Informative

    Point of information - this wasn't Malaysia Airlines, it was AirAsia.

  3. Re:Russian media reports flight downed by US missi by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's doing nothing of the sort. The linked story appears to be a Pravda op-ed piece quoting Foreign Minister (?) Alexei Pushkov to the effect that Russia isn't really isolated internationally despite the efforts and claims of President Obama to this effect. A native speaker could provide more detail, but that's the gist of it. As for the missing plane, I don't see a single mention of it anywhere on Pravda's main or Asian news pages.

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  4. Re:Coffin Corner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    mentil has a point, according to this report:
    "A radar screenshot leaked from AirNav Indonesia shows the aircraft had turned left off the airway and was climbing through FL363, the speed over ground had decayed to 353 knots however."
    http://www.aeroinside.com/item/5119/indonesia-asia-a320-over-java-sea-on-dec-28th-2014-aircraft-went-missing-believed-to-have-impacted-waters

    slowing could be related to a stall

  5. Re:Don't take airplanes piloted by the Malays by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

    The plane was flying the filed pattern and was where it was authorized to be. The airline should have re-routed it, but that's not entirely the pilot's call. Like the weather, they rely on the word of others for the conditions, then do what they can with that information. They were told the flight path was safe, and it was the one the owners of the plane he was flying told him to take. How is that his fault for being off course?

  6. Re:Note to Self.... by mjwx · · Score: 3, Informative

    Point of information - this wasn't Malaysia Airlines, it was AirAsia.

    More precisely it was Indonesian AirAsia, which is a separate company to AirAsia BHD as Indonesia prohibits majority foreign ownership on airlines. Indonesian AirAsia has its own staff, management and maintenance.

    It should also be noted that AirAsia BHD practically owns Indonesia AirAsia as they completely funded the holding company that owns the other 51% of the stock.

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  7. Re:Escort by ledow · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.planecrashinfo.com/...

    Commercial aircraft go down anything up to 20 times a year, even in modern times. Back when you were a kid, likely 30 times a year or more.

    Already we have this lot:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

    That's one every two weeks. One of the ones you hint at was, what, July and over an entirely different continent anyway.

    Learn some statistics. You soon find that people have selection-bias on what they see in the news, what they perceive as a "close fact" (being a plane heading TO Malaysia crashing in another continent, instead of one heading from Malaysia that crashes near Malaysia... very different things), and what they want to lump together to form some kind of extraordinary circumstance.

  8. Re:Don't take airplanes piloted by the Malays by jbwolfe · · Score: 2, Informative

    The airline should have re-routed it, but that's not entirely the pilot's call.

    The route and safety of flight are shared responsibilities between the dispatcher and pilot. The final authority rests with the Captain per regulation. Were the captain to feel deviation or complete re-route was necessary, he had full authority and responsibility to do so. Where ATC is not accommodating, he can exercise emergency authority to preserve safety of flight.

    ...it was the one the owners of the plane he was flying told him to take.

    Point of information: The "owners" explicitly do not have that authority.

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  9. Re:who cares how many children by ledow · · Score: 3, Informative

    Try watching it on the news.

    In Italy: "There were no Italians on board" x 5 within the space of a 2 minute news article.

    In England: Even BBC News has a headline "Only one Brit onboard".

    The crash isn't news if they're foreign or old. Same as everything else they portray on the news. War in the Middle East that involves no European/American countries? Barely mentioned. The US says something about a war in the Middle East? News article. The US is IN the Middle East, can't move for "news" of it, down to deaths of individual soldiers (an unprecedented coverage of a war).

    TV News doesn't care about the news. They care about making you go "Oh my God!" when you see it, so you keep watching through the adverts.

  10. Re:Coffin Corner? by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unlikely. It is extraordinarily difficult to crash a plane because you hit the coffin corner. The moment you stall, you lose altitude, and you're no longer in the coffin corner. A simple stall recovery, and you're back in normal flight. The A320 in particular is designed so the computer will automatically recover from stalls if the pilots simply release all controls. It takes severe disorientation or stupidity (e.g. one of the pilots on AF447 kept directing the plane to pitch up without telling the other pilot what he was doing, as the other pilot was trying to pitch it down to recover from the stall) for a plane to crash because of this.