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AirAsia Flight Goes Missing Between Indonesia and Singapore
iONiUM (530420) writes As reported by many news sources, yet another plane has lost contact during a trip. This comes on the heels of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 which is still missing, and Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, which was shot down. From ABC's coverage: Sixteen children and one infant were among the passengers. At a press conference this morning, Indonesian officials said the plane was several hours past the time when its fuel would have been exhausted.
The six-year-old aircraft was on the submitted flight plan but requested a deviation because of enroute weather before communication with the aircraft was lost. The plane was under the control of the Indonesian Air Traffic Control and had been in the air for about 42 minutes when contact was lost, AirAsia said.
were on the flight, as if adult lifes did not matter just as much.
Because children are presumed innocent, and tragedy befalling innocence turns the emotional value of the story up eleventy times.
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That actually deserves to be modded up. That's a high level of correlation. It's possible there are training issues.
> I wonder how viable it would be to just quietly escort flights in that region with stealth aircraft for a while to determine what's actually happening.
With thousands of flights a day, there aren't enough military jets and support crews to do that.
Adults have lived some of their life. Kids have missed out on things most believe everbody should be able to do before they die, like their first kiss.
Everybody here actually understands this, I have no idea why you all picked now to suddenly act like you're Mr. Spock.
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So... airplane crashes and other huge international events is not what matters to a nerd ? To a nerd the only thing that matters is C, Linux, ASM and Stephen Hawking ? Talk about narrow mindedness.
Why is there one of you commenting every time airplane crashes ?
I read it on the BBC and came here for the discussion - as with any story, if you don't like it, skip it. Nothing is forcing you to read or take part in comments, so why bitch and moan about Slashdot covering something you personally don't like.
The moment you stall, you lose altitude, and you're no longer in the coffin corner.
The moment you stall, you are outside the flight envelope which includes that corner. You remain outside until you recover from stall. Losing altitude is not a stall recovery technique. Restoring laminar flow over the wing is. That may involve sacrificing altitude for airspeed, assuming you still have enough elevator authority to reduce AOA. Another method is to use excess thrust, assuming it is available at that altitude (the higher you are the, less available.)
A simple stall recovery, and you're back in normal flight.
Stall recovery in large swept-wing aircraft at cruise altitude is anything but simple. It requires a great deal of patience and energy management to avoid secondary stalls. Once recovered, you remain in alternate or direct law- no more normal law until on the ground and reset.
The A320 in particular is designed so the computer will automatically recover from stalls if the pilots simply release all controls.
Untrue. When you stall an A320, you revert to alternate law (hopefully with speed stability), as normal law will not let you stall. If you stalled, something went wrong. The flight control computers are saying essentially that "I cant fly the plane anymore- you the pilot must do it." It will not recover without pilot intervention.
...one of the pilots on AF447 kept directing the plane to pitch up without telling the other pilot what he was doing, as the other pilot was trying to pitch it down to recover from the stall
This did happen, and they were disoriented but not stupid, just poorly trained. The aircraft also gave them a "dual input" aural warning and averaged their inputs. The first sense to disappear when under stress is hearing. They were under stress and poor training in stall recovery left them unable to prevent secondary stalls. This was one of many other factors to this particular accident as well as all accidents in general.
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