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Russia Plans To Build World First DNA Databank of All Living Things

An anonymous reader writes Researchers from Moscow State University plan to build a database that will house the DNA of every creature known to man. The University has secured a $194 million grant for the project dubbed "Noah's Ark." The gigantic "ark," set to be completed by 2018, will be 430 sq km in size, built at one of the university's central campuses. "It will enable us to cryogenically freeze and store various cellular materials, which can then reproduce. It will also contain information systems. Not everything needs to be kept in a petri dish," MSU rector Viktor Sadivnichy says.

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  1. $194 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So 78 sextillion rubles then?

    1. Re:$194 million by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

      You took too long to post, it's up to 79 sextillion now. No wait, 80.

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  2. In soviet russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ark builds you!

  3. Re:Kind of big by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    Refrigerated storage of samples? They'll probably just a build a wall around a 430 km^2-sized area in Northern Siberia and call it a day. ;-)

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  4. Kinda Like Cryogenesis for Humans ... by machineghost · · Score: 2

    "It will enable us to cryogenically freeze and store various cellular materials, which can then reproduce."

    But they don't actually have the technology to do that, right? So isn't this the same thing as humans cryogenicaly freezing themselves now, blindly assuming that future scientists will be able to remove anti-freeze from their veins?

    In other words, isn't this giant expensive project entirely predicated on the the development of future technology that can actually use these samples, without any guarantee whatsoever that that technology will materialize?

    1. Re:Kinda Like Cryogenesis for Humans ... by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It depends on what you mean be "reproduce".

      If you are talking about having babies, the technology is science fiction, but near science fiction – not far science fiction like cryogenic freezing people. For example, synthetic life is a viable field of study. We can build bacterium from scratch. We are a long distance from resurrecting mastodons – which we have the DNA for. However the issues we face are known. To reach cryogenics we face many unknown hurdles. That is blue sky territory.

      However, "reproduce" could mean reading and understanding the DNA of creatures, a much lower and viable hurdle. Sequencing unknown genomes is expensive but the cost is falling fast. There are many species on the verge of extinction. Better to collect the samples know and sequence latter.

  5. Re:Jurassic World, Russian Edition. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    That's what you get for sleeping next to a bear.

  6. "430 sq km in size"...Bullshit by Bearhouse · · Score: 2

    So that's what, a little more than 20Km per side; if it's a sqaure block? Not happening anywhere, especially in Russia since the currency tanked.

    Also, storing something as tiny as DNA requires little space...

  7. So which is it? by jc42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "First DNA Databank of All Living Things"
    "database that will house the DNA of every creature known to man"

    Those might be grammatically similar, but the numbers differ by several orders of magnitude.

    Humans really know mostly about multi-cellular critters, plus the tiny fraction of the single-celled species that interact with us somehow. Almost all single-celled species are yet to be discovered.

    One of the more interesting bits of evidence is that all of the deep-drilling projects, which have sampled only a tiny chunk of the planet's crust, have reported single-celled living things "all the way down". It'll take a while for us to do a good study of everything living deep down there. Similarly, several deep-water sampling projects have turned up large numbers of unknown microscopic species throughout their water columns.

    I guess this mostly goes to show how difficult it can be to do a good journalistic job of summarizing scientific work so that non-scientists can understand the actual results. "Ordinary English" (or French or Russian or any other human language) is sufficiently imprecise that it's very difficult to avoid misleading mistakes like the two summaries of this story.

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  8. Nope. by goodmanj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can't build anything 430 square km in size for $194 million. Certainly not in central Moscow, because that's roughly the land area of *all* of Moscow. Even if you're just counting internal floor area and you build it 100 stories tall, it'd be the largest building in the world by floor area by a factor of 400, would be about the size of lower Manhattan, and be the largest building in the world by footprint by a factor of eight.

    Post-soviet Russia has a long track record of announcing glorious plans for amazing science and technology and not doing them. Going by press releases, they've got what, six Mars missions underway right now? Occasionally Russia does something cool, but I say, give 'em credit for their achievements, not their plans, because 99% of their plans are just pipe dreams. Goes double if it's announced by RT.com.

  9. Re:They won't build shit by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The same happens the world over. this isn't unique to russia

  10. Re:They won't build shit by bloodhawk · · Score: 2

    No the sheer scale is pretty much the same, the only really difference is how it is presented the public. Most western countries hide the corruption behind regulations, donations, committees, fact finding missions, consultancies, reports etc etc. The level is the same but they ensure it is stamped as legal.... even then we still get a heap of pollies that aren't content with how much they are snorting up from the pig trough and get caught on the illegal stuff too.