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Indiana Court Rules Melted Down Hard Drive Not Destruction of Evidence

An anonymous reader writes An Indiana court has ruled that a hard drive that was sent to recycling was not destruction of evidence. The ruling stems from a BitTorrent file-sharing case filed by Malibu Media where a defendant claimed that his hard drive had failed thanks to heavy use. Malibu claimed that the act was destruction of evidence and filed a motion demanding a default judgement. The court denied this motion suggesting that because the hard drive failed, there was no evidence to destroy in the first place.

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  1. Re:Hello microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hello microwave. I'd like you to meet hard drive.

    Perhaps you intended your comment to be a joke, but in case anyone believes
    a hard drive can be destroyed such that data cannot be recovered from it
    by "cooking" the hard drive in a microwave, it should be explained that
    a platter-type drive will NOT be destroyed by "cooking" it in a microwave.

    The microwave, however, WILL be severely damaged.

  2. Re:How is this supposed to work...? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Informative

    - person uses drive for illegal activity
    - person receives DMCA notice
    - person "catastrophically fails" their drive
    - person receives subpoena
    - person notifies court that sole evidence no longer exists due to drive failure.

    Hence, your assumptions are flawed (for this case).

    The ruling found that it was NOT illegal to destroy evidence before it is called for evidence. It is illegal to intentionally destroy evidence that has been called for by the court. There are also retention laws that cover certain situations. Setting data retention guidelines prior to the suit protects you from getting into this mess (if you can prove that you ALWAYS destroy your data after X days/ x failed writes/ etc. then you're not culpable if you do what you always do just prior to being served).

  3. Pretty Fine Line There by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Informative

    Basically it works out that he'd recycled the drive prior to being aware that he personally was being sued for copyright infringement. He also didn't run out and recycle all his drives as soon as he got a letter from Comcast saying that some sort of lawsuit was in progress. I assume the guy had some evidence to back up the dates in his claims. There's no discussion about whether they asked him for the backups he had or anything. In a nutshell, I wouldn't want to have to bet my ass on the court coming to the conclusion it did in any particular case.

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  4. Re:Melted down hard drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    They go through a shredder, and then toxic chemicals are used to extract gold, then it gets sorted in aluminium, steel, and copper. (I suppose everything not of value is dumped)

  5. Re:Kill-ur-drive contest? by gnasher719 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Before the platters are up to speed, there is very little Bernoulli force holding the heads up. The above operation will crash the head and leave a nice big scratch.

    And then your opponent finds an expert witness who examines the hard drive, finds the scratch, and explains to the court that it was most likely intentionally damaged. They don't need proof, just likelihood. And now you are stuck, because whatever your opponent claimed is on the drive, the court now assumes it was there before you destroyed it.

  6. Re:Presumption of innocence by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Close. This was a civil case, so the plaintiff doesn't need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt, as the prosecution would in a criminal case. Only has to prove that he was probably infringing.

  7. Court made the right decision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know this because I RTFA'd

    Defendant received notice of this lawsuit at the beginning of October 2012. []Defendant, however, did not destroy the hard drive until “late February 2013.” [] Thus, almost five months passed between the time that Defendant learned of the lawsuit and Defendant’s destruction of the hard drive. Had Defendant truly wished to hide adverse information, the Court finds it unlikely that Defendant would have waited nearly five months to destroy such information. Instead, Defendant’s continued use of the hard drive for the months after he learned of the litigation suggests that the hard drive contained no information to hide at all, or that Defendant did not intend to hide any such information.

    The timing of Plaintiff’s amendment and the service of its complaint also detract from an inference of bad faith. Plaintiff amended its complaint to add Harrison as a Defendant on November 9, 2012. [] Plaintiff, however, did not serve the amended complaint on Harrison until April 2013, [], after Defendant had arranged to order the replacement hard drive, [], and after the recycling of Defendant’s hard drive. [] Furthermore, Defendant testified that the service of the complaint was the first time that he became aware that he was personally being sued for copyright infringement. []

  8. Re:I disagree... by AchilleTalon · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should have read the article. The argument is about what the defendant knows and the intention. The drive was sent to recycle BEFORE the defendant even knows a litigation is imminent. Hence, it is not possible to argue the defendant destroyed an evidence while he didn't know it was to become an evidence. The hard drive was destroyed in good faith by the defendant without an intention to interfere with legal procedures since there wasn't any at the time and he wasn't even aware any was eminent.

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  9. Re:Presumption of innocence by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not this.

    The accused is not bound to preserve any and all possessions that might be discoverable in litigation at a later date after even a rumour that the accused will become a party in a suit.

    Evidence does not exist before probable cause defines the scope of what will constitute evidence, only after a motion to preserve evidence is filed.

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  10. Re:Hello microwave by ssufficool · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually a single overwrite with zero is recoverable on older non-PMR drives by simply realigning the heads a bit to catch the edge of the magnetic track only weakened by the zero wipe (and I mean a very small bit) and re-installing the drive. On PMR, there are actually weak bits left after a zero wipe that are recoverable by equipment capable of reading weak bits. A random wipe is usually effective in all cases. A hammer leaves nothing to chance.

    I also don't understand how a drive can be ruled as evidence if nothing is yet discovered on the hard drive. I don't understand how the prosecution can ask for a default judgement without solid compelling evidence of a crime. Without a discovery of the drives contents I'm assuming they had other evidence.

  11. Re:Hello microwave by geoskd · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I understand, all it takes is one knock with a hammer to ensure platters are bent and can never be used again. And there is no known practical method to restore data after a single overwrite with 0s. Everything else is pure paranoia.

    Overwriting with 0s will not perfectly overwrite the tracks. There is some slop on the read head positioning that will normally allow enough data to be recovered that the ECC can be used to rebuild the full data set. This can only be done by taking the platters out and putting them into a machine that is purpose built for the task of recovering such data. Having worked on part of the design of such a machine, I can tell you two things about it: First, it exists, and second, it is not cheap. I was told the cost of the one I worked on was $12M USD.

    Physically deforming the platters will make the job much more difficult (expensive), but not impossible. A combination of clever chemistry and an electron microscope can usually recover data off a mangled platter. This process sucks because it has to be done by hand, but if its worth enough to you, there a couple of labs around the country that can handle that level of data recovery. A better way to ensure total destruction is to melt the platters outright. not only does the melting deform the platters, but sufficient heat will thoroughly destroy the data, even if the platter does not completely melt.

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  12. Re:Presumption of innocence by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I bothered to RTFA and you are both a little way off what actually happened.

    The guy received notice of the lawsuit. Five months later, the drive failed and he threw it away. The court concluded that because five months had passed it was unlikely he was trying to destroy evidence; if that had been the goal he would have done it sooner.

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  13. Re:Hello microwave by tibit · · Score: 4, Informative

    most of the data can generally be recovered easily enough

    Nope. The drives manufactured in the last two decades, give-or-take, have the size of magnetic domains matched to the size of the field generated by the heads. The "edge" of the track is defined by where data from one track ceases to be, and the data from another track begins, and this is a binary thing. One domain here has data from this track, another domain there has data from that track.

    What people constantly fail to realize is that if there was an area of disk, the mythical "inter-track gap", that was any good at storing any data, it'd be stupid for the manufacturer to not put the expensive platter real estate to good use. And they do precisely that: they use all of the platters to store your current data. There is no inter track gap.

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  14. Re:Hello microwave by Immerman · · Score: 3, Informative

    If they could reliably position the heads in *exactly* the same place every time that would be the case. But they can't - mechanical devices and perfection are mutually incompatible. So assuming there's an error of +/- N um in head positioning, your track has to be at least 2*N um wider than the recording head to avoid partially overwriting adjacent tracks. You can cut that roughly in half by sharing the buffer zone between adjacent tracks - hence creating the " inter-track gap". Modern drive heads are are more precise than they used to be, but that only reduces the width of the necessary buffer zones, it doesn't eliminate them entirely.

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  15. Re:Hello microwave by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't understand how the prosecution can ask for a default judgement without solid compelling evidence of a crime. Without a discovery of the drives contents I'm assuming they had other evidence.

    First, part of the reason you don't understand this is because you are under the impression that copyright infringement for personal use is a crime. It is NOT. This is a civil matter, not criminal.

    Generally speaking, copyright infringement is only criminal if you are doing it in bulk for profit. Historically, that meant what has been known legally for about 100 years as copyright piracy, which again in general refers to making unauthorized copies of copyrighted works and selling them.

    It is today's media industry which has deliberately attempted to confuse you by labeling downloads of copyrighted material for personal use piracy. It is not. Piracy is a legal term referring to PROFITING from unauthorized copying of copyrighted works.

    Now, back to the case at hand: being a civil matter, and not criminal, the court need not require probable cause in order to demand that evidence be produced (although it probably can't be seized beforehand. However, because of this, people have been known to destroy evidence after being served notice of a lawsuit. If they do that for the purpose of hiding the evidence, and the plaintiff can show that, it may be ruled spoliation of evidence, and could result in a summary judgment in favor of the plaintiff.

    But despite this not being a criminal matter, plaintiff still bears the burden of showing that spoliation happened, via genuine evidence. In this case, plaintiff's claim of spoliation was not backed by evidence; it was a claim without substance. Defendant had a reasonable explanation for the drive's demise, and plaintiff could not show otherwise.

    I also don't understand how a drive can be ruled as evidence if nothing is yet discovered on the hard drive.

    Remember that this is a civil matter. Standards of evidence are different. If a reasonable person would believe that the drive contained evidence, a judge might ask that it be produced. It very much depends on the circumstances.

  16. Re:Presumption of innocence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The redefinition of the word "piracy" is not natural evolution though, it's a deliberate attempt by copyright maximallists to prejudice courts and pressure Congress.
    Yes, language changes. But corruption and manipulation should be resisted.

  17. Re:Wow - interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was destroyed before he knew that he was named as a defendant in the lawsuit. The only thing he knew from the Comcast letter was that they had received a court order arising from a lawsuit to hand over logs and customer information associated with an ip address on specified date(s). The letter did not say he was a party to the lawsuit (that happen Nov., but he had still not been officially notified) and only contained Comcast's notification to their customer that they would comply with the court order. It imposed no legal instructions on the guy, it was mostly just a CYA courtesy by Comcast. Only a legal instruction included in the official court summons to the defendant or a letter from the plaintiff's attorneys could have ordered him to preserve evidence by ceasing to use the drive and to remove it from his computer. The plaintiff didn't communicate with the defendant until he was served 7 months after he received the initial Comcast letter.

  18. Re:Hello microwave by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    When did you do this? Data densities have gotten so tight and tolerances so small that while I won't call bullshit on your statement I will call it out of date. It's impossible to recover data at this day and age. While you're right that the head doesn't perfectly write over the track, the gaps between the tracks are so small that the magnetic field is not sustainable when something is written. Heck one of the challenges the industry is facing is writing a track without having the tracks either side break down, and you're taking about a sustained field an order of magnitude smaller.