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Finding Genghis Khan's Tomb From Space
rossgneumann writes Genghis Khan really, really didn't want anyone to know where he was buried. The soldiers escorting his body to its final resting place killed everyone they passed, killed the people who built the tomb, and then were killed themselves. An elegant solution to this problem bubbled up from two unlikely sources: a man described as a "modern day Indiana Jones" and amateur archaeologists.
As a scientist ive studied this for quite some time. the troops who buried him were themselves killed by troops who were also killed, but not before the troops who killed the troops who killed the villagers were themselves killed and yet another regiment was dispatched to kill the troops killing the troops killing the troops.. Now in 2014 as we all know most of asia spends its time restlessly murdering anyone who has so much as heard of the poor chap. Its why textbooks today refer to the man as Gengles Mc. Kringle and hes portrayed as a bloated hamster living somewhere in cleveland.
Good people go to bed earlier.
What a bastard.
My guess is that this effort will be wildly unsuccessful, but will be picked up by the History Channel and turned into at least one 12-episode season of reality tv. It will chronicle their mostly futile efforts culminating in a season finale of grand failure. Yes I am still bitter after I got sucked into an episode of "Oak Island." I knew better, I watched it anyway. I will never get that hour back.
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Wouldn't the trail of dead bodies lead them straight to the tomb?
In Mongolia, today, 2% of the Y-Chromosomes alive are Genghis Khan's.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
all those illegitimate children were looking to hit up his estate for palimony.
lose != loose
...and then Narnia and Oz.
The Mongols didn't bury their dead. Their religion (like that of many nomadic pastoral societies) relied on open-air burials. The whole "tomb" myth was most likely invented by their Chinese neighbors.
Step one: find Genghis Khan's tomb
Step two: After you load the truck, tell the government agents that the body was infected with the Ebola virus, and you need medical help right away. Grab hold of one of the officer's shirts for emphasis.
Step three: drive away
Great! Now we've got to kill them too!
Mulan killed him with fireworks.
Using satellite and radar images to identify archaeological sites from space isn't new. But while this method may help in identifying sites of interest, actually identifying Genghis Khan's tomb would require archaeologists to dig at each of those sites. And until an archaeologist is on the ground, the images may just be a peculiarly shaped hill mound.
So if the concerns is identify Genghi's tomb while respecting Mongolian reverence for burial sites, I don't see how this does that, as you'd still need archaeological digging to get useful science from the field.
First guy: Hey dude, do you know how to find Genghis K's tomb?
Second guy: Yeah, just follow the trail of blood and dead bodies.
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
That is what I call the former history channel...pickers, pawn, axe men, ice road truckers, all that other "non" reality garbage. ONCE in a great while, that will have an actual HISTORY show, but rarely. I knew the jig was up a few years ago when they started saying "history is made everyday" About the only time I tune to that channel, discovery, learning, is when they rerun an old series or by some miracle have something OTHER than this made up so called reality crap.
IMO, they've really not done much. They allowed people to tag aerial imagery for things they *think* they identify - rivers, roads, and other anomaly. That resulted in 2.3 million tags. And, well, that's it. 55 tagged areas were verified by field teams as having some interest to archaeology. However, I don't see how any of this has anything to do with Genghis Khan specifically.
Better known as 318230.
Or did they wrote it on stone before killing each other?
He's probably next to Jimmy Hoffa. Find Jimmy and you find Gengo boy.
Table-ized A.I.
Clearly Dr. Mindbender has decided to make a super-clone composed of the genetic material of the world's greatest conquerors in order to create a leader for that rogue terrorist organization.
Watch out Tomb of Alexander, Vlad Dracul, and Grant!
If his wishes were to not be found or bothered, why are we ignoring these wishes now....
They found dozens of layers of wood, then sand, then wood, then sand...
Finally they discovered what the original builder was burying... his OCD.
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
There is a legend that unearthing tombs of the great conquerors causes new terrible wars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#Exhumation
What is the statute of limitations on respecting the dead?
Watch Genghis Khan vs. The Easter Bunny on Youtube's Epic Rap Battles of History.
Five seconds of thought on the laughable legend of Khan's 'burial' immediately exposes the moronic lies- but the lies were concocted to meet the world view of Betas.
I am reminded of the excellent recent TV show Spartacus. As the end approached, endless dribblers speculated about what the story would to with the 'demise' of Spartacus. I pointed out to friends and family that since, rarely, the show had INTELLIGENT writers, they would end with Spartacus's allies ensuring he had an anonymous burial so the Romans could never have the satisfaction of exploiting his 'capture' alive or dead- and the legend of Spartacus would have its greatest possible beginning.
Ghengis Khan almost certainly went the same way, but for different reasons. The Mongols had religious beliefs derived from early Christianity (not the Jewish based Modern Christianity created by Roman leaders centuries after the death of Christ). Khan was a hard, intelligent, ruthless leader from a philosophy that respected the bleak land, and what it meant for a person to flourish is such an inhospitable place. He conquered because he was good at conquering, and for no other reason. He was, in fact, simply PLAYING a giant, real game of Civilisation IV. As the end approached, he could easily have ordered his people to construct for his tomb a structure as grand as anything seen since the time of the Great Pyramids- but his personal philosophy was the diametric opposite of such pathetic grandiose.
His REAL burial site was as modest and anonymous as that of Spartacus- and for exactly the same reason. TRULY 'great' people never crave an impressive tomb, but they frequently like to create a mythology that lives on- often for the ongoing benefit of the legacy/family/dynasty.
Ghengis Khan allowed himself to APPEAR as a 'god' for the sake of the inheritors of his kingdom, because he KNEW that Human Betas (like you lot reading Slashdot) operate at the level of myths, so for his kids to continue their conquest of the world the leaders of the Mongols had to seem 'special'. Look at the braindead Yanks are told that Obama (who can't even speak without an autocue, and has stated on multiple occasions that his favourite pastime is murdering first responders with a second round of drone strikes) is a VERY special American.
It is telling that the Mongols faded back into History astonishingly quickly, although the impact of their conquests lived on long after true Mongols ceased to rule over their captured lands. Where the Mongols came from was where the Mongols returned, and still live to this day. Their dedication to the land was FAR greater than their interest in riches and power over other men. After spanking the Chinese in order to satisfy a long standing grudge, they lost interest.
Anyone here really interested in the subject should make themselves aware of the astonishing battle that halted the movement of Mongols into West Europe. The Mongols had found themselves fighting at a time when their opponents were vastly inferior to the Ancient Romans from 1000 years early. The sick corruption of organised religion had encouraged vile rulers to de-skill their populations, so the churches (of the East and the West) would dominate unopposed. The Mongols thus found themselves up against TINY poorly conceived, infinitely vicious forces that were created entirely to suppress the ordinary unarmed Humans of those nations.
The Mongols would have been easily THRASHED by Rome, had the two co-existed in History, and the Mongols were well aware of this. After victory after victory in the West, Khan felt obliged to force the heart of the New Roman Empire- the leaders of the Roman Catholic church, to capitulate. But in the true birthplace of so many of Man's religious systems, Egypt, Khan suffered his first loss and any chance of taking West Europe ended.
Ghengis Khan and the Mongols proved the societies of East and West at the time were significantly flawed- a single PRIMITIVE force with absolute military intent was able to easily dominate the so-
BBC always had some good documentaries. I (usa) have been watching quite a few lately about WWI and WW2 east front on Youtube. they are mostly low res standard format, but good enough for me. ( I don't know the provenance of the shows are..). History channel used to run quite a few BBC shows about middle ages that were pretty good. but since about 4years ago I haven't seen anything on usa channels from BBC. can anyone from uk comment on recent material? History channel does have some problems with documentaries set in the prephotography era. the choices are talking heads, dramatizations, slow panning shots of ancient ruins and artwork or cgi. some of the cgi shows like engineering an empire and lost worlds, and decisive battles are great. But I suspect they were expensive and only some material really works well that way. Personally I suspect that when the tv format went wide screen and hi res, history channel choked at the expense of refilming the material in the new format and decided to go with cheaper reality shows until they can figure out ways to film real history shows cost effectively.
THIS IS FRICKIN' AMAZING!
I mean *who wouldn't* want to be buried in a "tomb from space"!?!?!
This lends total credence to the story the other day that India has interplanetary aircraft flying in the interplanetary air! This must be *how* Genghis Khan *got* hi tomb from space!
I TOTALLY agree that we should be looking for Genghis Khan's frickin' *tomb from space*!!!!!!
The companies themselves may be fine... they are making a lot of money in other things.
Umm, look at a quarterly earnings report for Discovery Communications sometime. Of their 9 month earnings in the latest report, for example, they had a total revenue of $4.589B, with $2.209B from US networks, and $2.291B from international networks. That is over 98% of their revenue. More than half of their revenue is from advertising. Although they are trying to invest in internet based media, the vast majority of their money still comes from TV shows and their cable networks.
AMC has proven that even a small investment can have huge returns.
And yet Discovery and A&E, each have three times the total viewership in 2014 as AMC networks (e.g. some numbers found here, with more in depth around but not as easy to find online). The top network companies by viewership are: Viacom, TW, NBC, Discovery, and A&E.
The problem faced by Discovery and A&E are the same faced by pretty much all cable networks at the moment, that all of the big ones are losing viewership, between more minor options being available and people going to the internet more. Discovery and A&E channels are some of the more successful ones, and will remain parts of lower level cable tiers for some time, especially considering some of their reality shows are the highest watched ones on cable TV. Some network groups are running into issues with their secondary spin-off channels, but still have a couple solid channels and can reshuffle stuff to keep them going.
Get four history professors who have divergent viewpoints and hate each other. Get somebody cool for a moderator, like Jon Stewart. Then let those boys go at it.
And soon they'll uncover the secret message about Ovaltine.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/mongolia-archaeologists-unearth-tomb-of-genghis-khan/
You could even name it History Deathmatch. I'd watch it.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Get four history professors who have divergent viewpoints and hate each other. Get somebody cool for a moderator, like Jon Stewart. Then let those boys go at it.
Stewart? PLEASE think of somebody else... I'd rather have Candy Crawley or some other lifeless NPR host over Jon... How about a BBC new reader or something? Heck, dust off Allen Colmes and Newt to tag team or something... Other than that, I LIKE the idea..
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Now in 2014 as we all know most of asia spends its time restlessly murdering anyone who has so much as heard of the poor chap
So you feel it's justify to criticize the people of the entire continent for the stupid behavior of the people of only ONE TRIBE?
How would you feel if the rest of the world criticize people of the entire european continent of bloody murderers for what the Nazis had done back in the World War II ?
"Good evening, ladies and gentlemen; some substitutions. Tonight, the role of Genghis Khan will be played by John Wayne."
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My favorite is "Horrible histories". Love that show !
They found dozens of layers of wood, then sand, then wood, then sand... .
They being a bunch of treasure hunters 150years ago who didn't actually keep records nor save any of their discoveries. At a time when divination and other treasure hunting scams were pretty common in the region oak island is located in. None of the famous objects recovered have survived, and the closes thing we got to contemporary newspaper reports are somewhat critical of the whole venture
There have been a couple of serious engineering reports made on the dig, by prospective investors who backed out but those are often downplayed on the oak island mystery edutainment shows since they essentially bould down to apart from some old hearsay theres very little evidence of anything special about oak island.
The oak island shows are a good example of the new policy of never letting facts get in the way of a good story at the "history channel."
They found a format that essentially boils down to historian on a road trip, it's probably dirt cheap since well the hostorians gets paid by a different goverment organisation and if you need extras for some staged meneuvre theres always the army.
There is a large subculture of historical reenactment groups and mideval fairs in Europe, along with a good number of working museums and plenty of castly ruins making a telegenic good backdrop. And well the BBC is producing more for the public school system then ad rankings so they are not under the same peasure to play the emotional register, and dont need to fill a full schedule either. Meaning they can run "non science/history themed" games show and reality tv to fill the empty slots.
ITV the main commercial competitor to BBC follows mostly the same template of using actual history grads and keeping it accurate though they do get a bit more corny from time to time.