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Four Facepalm Bugs In USPS Label-Printing Site

"The United States Postal Service "Click-N-Ship" site suffered no outages or slowdowns during Christmas rush," writes Bennett Haselton. "It just has bugs that make the process more annoying than just standing in line at the post office, which defeats the purpose. The most frustrating part is that most of these bugs could have been fixed, just by having some testers run through the ordering process and make a note of anything that seems confusing or wrong. (Although I've included notes on how to work around all the bugs, so you really can print your own labels and skip the line.)" Read on for the rest; what other gripes do you have about the current package delivery regime, and how would you resolve them? This suggestion on the LifeProTips subreddit reminded me that I'd been meaning to try printing my own USPS mailing labels to skip the lines at the post office. I'd been putting it off because I knew that I'd be determined to find the most efficient way of doing everything through the site, and if the site didn't steer me towards exactly the best options, I'd end up forcing myself to reverse-engineer their whole algorithm in order to find the most efficient way myself. That's why I always appreciate it when a website just tells me the best option instead of making me second-guess them.

Right away, the USPS website failed that test because it does not allow you to print first-class mail labels, instead steering you towards the more expensive Priority Mail and Priority Mail Express options. Online users have complained about the lack of first-class-mail options on USPS.com for years, and users on several forums suggested using the PayPal Ship Now site instead, which does let you print first class mailing labels online, along with Priority Mail labels other options.

In my case it was a moot point because I had to use the Priority Mail labels in order for my packages to arrive by Christmas, but the deception was still hugely aggravating. Not just because of the thought of millions of people wasting money (and the finite resources of the postal system) due to the USPS site tricking them into a more expensive upgrade that they didn't need. But because it now meant I'd have to second-guess every recommendation they made, wondering if they were steering me toward something that was worse for me and better for them. The reason sites like Amazon are so stress-free to use is because, for the most part, they do display the options that are best for you, even at the expense of their own short-term profit. Some third-party merchant is selling a book for less than Amazon's list price? They'll let the seller list the book right on their site and undercut Amazon's own sales. The benefit to the user is not just the cost savings, but knowing that you don't have to feel like a chump for not wasting time on search engines trying to find a cheaper deal.

Once I realized the USPS site was concealing the cheaper options, in my determination to avoid getting ripped off by the USPS I almost ended up getting ripped off much worse by one of their "partners". I remembered an ad on a Google search mentioning Stamps.com, so I signed up for an account there and downloaded their software, which does in fact let you print first-class postage. It was only after reading a warning in the original subreddit that I realized I had unwittingly "agreed" to a $15.99/month charge. It turns out that the Stamps.com registration page says above the credit card form that your card info is "required to purchase postage", but this is misleading -- the fine print in the sidebar says you will be charged $15.99 per month if you don't cancel. (And neither the software nor the website gives you a link to cancel -- you have to call their customer service number.) Fortunately, I did call and cancel after realizing I'd been duped, but I was not surprised to learn on Wikipedia that the company had been the subject of over 1,000 Better Business Bureau complaints from users regarding the unauthorized monthly charges. (The part on Wikipedia about "long hold times" is out of date, though -- the automated prompts recognized my account by my phone number and let me cancel without any waiting.)

What does that have to do with USPS.com? Because it never would have happened if the USPS website had been on my side in the first place, giving me all the mailing options that I actually needed. It's bad enough when a private company does this, but the USPS works for us, don't they?

So that's not a "bug" in the traditional sense, but I'm counting it: #1: Not giving users all the mailing options they want to know about.

Most of the other bugs are not self-serving tricks; rather, they're just unclear directions where you have to pause and puzzle out what you're really supposed to do, which is different from what the site tells you to do. For example:

#2: Listing boxes as shipping options that don't fit the dimensions that you've already entered

On the label printing page (requires a USPS.com login if you don't have one) is the option to enter package dimensions. If you specify package details of 1 lbs and 13x5x6 inches, and click to calculate "available Services and Prices" based on the details you've entered, you're presented with a list of options that include 'Priority Mail Flat Rate Envelope 12-1/2" x 9-1/2"', 'Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Box 5-3/8" x 8-5/8" x 1-5/8"', 'Priority Mail Medium Flat Rate Box 11" x 8-1/2" x 5-1/2"', 'Priority Mail Medium Flat Rate Box 13-5/8" x 11-7/8" x 3-3/8"', and 'Priority Mail Padded Flat Rate Envelope 9-1/2" x 12-1/2"' -- all of which, of course, are too small to hold the package whose dimensions you just specified.

You could argue that it's the user's responsibility to make sure their package fits into the box they select, but a user could reasonably assume that the whole point of entering the length, width and height is so that the USPS can recommend only those boxes that will hold the item. Remember, the user usually doesn't have these boxes in front of them at the time they're printing the label. They could end up selecting a box option, printing the label, taking it all the way to the post office along with their package, only to find out that the package doesn't fit into the box that they printed the label for, and that they have to wait in line anwyay to pay for an alternate method.

It's a middle-school-level programming exercise to take the length, width, and height of a package as an input, take as a second input a list of boxes of varying lengths, widths, heights, and costs, and find the lowest-cost box that will hold the package (keeping in mind that the package can be rotated to different orientations so that the "height" becomes the "width", etc.). It's reasonable to expect the postal service to be able to do this too.

#3: Everything wrong with the "print your labels" page

Here's a screen grab of the "print your labels" page that appears after you've paid, which you can use to play the Highlights "What's Wrong?" game:

  • The text at the top says "You'll have until 11:59 PM CST of the Ship Date to print these labels." OK, but if I print them at 11:59 PM, what good does it do if the post office closed at 6? Are the labels only valid on the ship date, or will they still work if I take them to the post office the next day? This should be more clear.

  • Text says "A SCAN Form must be printed when taking packages to the Post Office." Fine, but there's a checkbox next to that sentence. If that sentence describes a postal regulation, what does it mean if I un-check the box? That the regulation no longer applies to me? Can someone tell me if the drug laws work that way as well?

  • The next sentence says: "Close out and print your SCAN Form here." I have no idea what that sentence means. Close out of the browser? And where is "here"? When it's not hyperlinked, "here" means here.

  • WHY IS THE "PRINT LABELS" BUTTON DISABLED?? I have the checkboxes checked for both labels. I want to print them. What else do you want me to DO? (My PC has a printer, which the Chrome browser is aware of -- it lets me print from other webpages with no problem.) I got it to work by saving the PDF and printing that, but I never figured out why the Print button was just sitting there, mocking me from behind its veil of grey.

  • The "Schedule a Pickup" button at the bottom -- same problem as the "print until 11:59 PM" message at the top. Since I printed these labels with the ship date specified as today, it should be more clear if the labels will still be considered valid tomorrow, which is the soonest time that a pickup could be scheduled.

#4: Over an hour on hold and never got through.

As an adherent to the touchingly quaint notion that a reporter should talk to the subjects of their story before running it, and also because I just wanted clarification on some of these questions, I called the USPS help line and waited on hold for 30 minutes before their help line disconnected me. I called back and waited for another 40 minutes before I hung up this time. OK, strictly speaking that's not a "bug". They just suck.

In the end, after reverse-engineering their pricing options as I had vowed to do, I determined what appeared to be their rules, (applies only to domestic Priority Mail), which you may find handy:

  • If you're shipping in a Flat Rate box, the weight of the package doesn't matter (up to the 70 lb limit), only the dimensions, to the extent that they determine which Flat Rate box you can fit it into, with the bigger ones being more expensive.
  • On the other hand, if you pick the Priority Mail "Use your own box" option, then the dimensions don't matter (unless you exceed the allowed limits), only the weight -- a 5 lb, 3"x3"x3" package and a 5 lb, 21"x21"x21" package both ship for $15.22, but if you change the weight, that's when the price changes. (If you try to ship a 22"x22"x22" package, you get an error that you've exceeded the dimensions for a Click-N-Ship.)

Using this, I was able to strategically break my one shipment, which would have cost about $30, into two separate shipments which cost $12 and $8. All told, with the effort to reverse-engineer their pricing options and to document all of the bugs for posterity, it took me about an hour to figure out that $10 savings and to print labels that I could take to the post office and skip the line -- which, it turned out, looked only about 3 minutes long -- in order to experience what one redditor described as "feeling the hate from the people standing in line as I casually stroll up and drop my packages off at the front desk". But the important thing is, I did it efficiently.

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  1. Christmas break is over! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hallelujah! Bennett's back! My life has meaning once more.

    1. Re: Christmas break is over! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I, for one, would like to thank this frequent contributor for sharing his thoughts!

      It seems like just yester decade I was thinking about mailing something. I probably would have considered this label printing site and fallen victim to these same problems!!!

      Bennett truly is a saint.

    2. Re:Christmas break is over! by rgbscan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So of these 4 "facepalm bugs", none are actually bugs - but less then stellar user experience issues? The headline itself is a facepalm.

    3. Re:Christmas break is over! by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hallelujah! Bennett's back! My life has meaning once more.

      Yea, I keep wondering why they allow him to post... is he paying them? I don't get it. Everyone hates his articles (even more than mine!) and they're rarely interesting topics to begin with... then you see Bennetts wall of text and you're like "I'm not reading that much text about this stupid of a topic"

      Can someone please please make these stop?

    4. Re:Christmas break is over! by gigne · · Score: 2

      Such arse gravy.

      This is irrelevant non-news/non-story of the lowest kind.

      You make we want to go back to the childish squabbling of the peoples front of soylent (splitters) forever.

      Please, just make it stop.

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    5. Re:Christmas break is over! by darkain · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This depends on the company you work for.

      I've worked in some where something as simple as a typo in spelling or grammar is classification for submitting a bug report to developers.

      User Interface and User Experience should definitely be classified as bugs.

    6. Re:Christmas break is over! by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I always though the 140 char limit on twitter was a stupid thing. Why reduce the amount that someone has to say? But now I understand.

    7. Re:Christmas break is over! by CAOgdin · · Score: 2

      More likely the USPS attitude that pervades: "We Don't Care!"

    8. Re:Christmas break is over! by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a button on the left front of your mouse. Don't press it and your troubles are over.

  2. Crap Crap Crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get this crap off the front page.

  3. My God... by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... it's full of stupid.

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    1. Re:My God... by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Informative

      What, are you gonna claim that calling a telephone number during the holiday season to ask stupid questions, and instead sitting on hold for an hour... isn't part of using a website?!

      The most informative part of the strange person blog post is, "it took me about an hour to figure out that $10 savings and to print labels that I could take to the post office and skip the line -- which, it turned out, looked only about 3 minutes long -- in order to experience what one redditor..."

      Short version: Shipping labels are hard for this guy, the USPS still had short lines during the holiday season, printing your own labels using label software is easier than using a website (duh), and this moron mostly reads reddit, not slashdot.

    2. Re:My God... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Informative

      Makes me wonder if timothy is stupid. Gawd that was just awful .

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    3. Re:My God... by chihowa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know he reads the comments because he's responded to things before, so you have to wonder why he keeps posting stuff here. It's like the pathetic loser who keeps hanging out with people that constantly abuse him. It's not even funny anymore; it's just sad.

      What's he getting out of this?

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    4. Re:My God... by Merk42 · · Score: 3, Funny

      What's he getting out of this?

      Attention

    5. Re:My God... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      I don't need help understanding, many of the points were ... not really points. Being Pointless, there is no understanding to be had.

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    6. Re:My God... by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Maybe he can't tell the difference between insults and friendly banter between good friends disguised as sarcastic insults?

  4. Hey Bennett, by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you asked to be made an editor on Slashdot, so you can post your own stories -- and those that don't want to read your crap can just filter you out instead of filling up the comment sections with complaints like mine?

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    1. Re:Hey Bennett, by Enry · · Score: 3, Informative

      I moderated your comment incorrectly, so I'm going to fix that now. You're completely correct.

    2. Re:Hey Bennett, by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, I should point out:

      ... I often run the ideas past smart people whose opinions I respect ... If a representative sampling of smart people agree ...

      You're giving your article to people "whose opinions [you] respect." The chances that those people form a "representative sampling of smart people" is quite low. Most likely, they are going to be people that are already predisposed to agree with your opinions. Of course they approve of your articles more than the general public -- you're getting your feedback from an echo chamber.

      Given how pretentious your reply was, I would think you would have seen an error that glaring.

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    3. Re:Hey Bennett, by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      Because people can filter me out anyway by not reading articles with my byline. If someone is too lazy to move their eyeball one inch down the page, aren't we being enablers by accomodating them?

      FFS, you are a cunt.

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    4. Re:Hey Bennett, by Reibisch · · Score: 2

      I don't often comment. Colour me part of the silent somethingority on pretty much everything slashdot-related. Take that as you will.

      But I'd like you to be clear: your position is that your 'representative sampling of smart people' (selection bias, much?) is a better judge than the 'crowd of Internet commenters' (who are also your desired readership), and thus if your 'smart' sample approves of your opinions, then you must believe your readership is just a bunch of club-swinging neanderthals who aren't erudite enough to appreciate your drivel and thus need your guiding light to navigate the darkness? Am I getting that right?

    5. Re:Hey Bennett, by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

      You're still dancing around the question. Which makes me think that you know that your position is indefensible, and you don't want to admit it.

      If you really believe that your articles on the bugs in the USPS website are so important that people should not be allowed to filter them out of their Slashdot newsfeed, then say so. You'll sound like an idiot, but at least you'll be an honest idiot.

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    6. Re:Hey Bennett, by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Still dancing, I see.

      im-port-tant - "of great significance or value; likely to have a profound effect on success, survival, or well-being."

      Sounds like a pretty good definition to me. You could type "define: important" into Google too, you know.

      If an article has great significance or value or is profound, it is important. Importance is a sliding scale, but I'll give you a hint: not a single one of your articles is important enough to justify denying people the ability to filter them out if they choose to do so. Do you seriously dispute that?

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    7. Re:Hey Bennett, by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

      Well, I guess that's that then. Like I said, you sound like an idiot, but at least you've confirmed your position now.

      Just about everybody who writes something thinks that their work is important, but very few have the nerve to claim that readers should not be allowed to ignore their writing. I invite you to consider the logical conclusion (since you claim to place a premium on logical thinking) of what happens if everybody thinks like you do.

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    8. Re:Hey Bennett, by CptChipJew · · Score: 2

      You've missed the point entirely. The real question is, why do you feel your writing is more important than other editors of the site? I'd be shocked if neither you nor /. had the idea of making you a proper site editor. /. lets us filter out editors. Why? It doesn't matter. What matters is that not you nor anybody else should be able to skirt past such filters.

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    9. Re:Hey Bennett, by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      What makes you think an email is spam?

      Again, you're a selfish cunt. At least let the rest of us be selfish cunts by being able to filter out your crap.

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  5. It's the post office by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing is done for the convenience of the user. Why should the website be any different?

    And, for the record, if you can't figure out the USPS website you're an idiot. All these idiosyncrasies have been around for as long as I can remember on their site, and yet we ship out stuff all the time with the system.

    I feel like I've just been trolled by BH.

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    1. Re:It's the post office by Ksevio · · Score: 2, Informative

      But there's a whole stupid section on how he "reverse engineered" the prices. Perhaps he did this by clicking the "Calculate Postage" link and filling out the form? It's spelled out pretty clearly how flat rate vs normal postage works.

    2. Re:It's the post office by honestmonkey · · Score: 2

      I agree that it would be nice if a real person, and not just a postal employee, or worse, just the programmer(s) involved, actually tried to use the site and give suggestions ("This may mean something to YOU, but I speak English, not Postalese"). And over the holidays I did use and get frustrated with their site. Mostly because I would say "Hey give me a label" and go through all the stuff and it would drop back to the beginning a number of times before I could actually print out the labels. But I never had all the errors he's talking about, so I can't say how broken the site is; it was better than going and standing in line at the post office.

      Getting slapped with a ruler was better than getting hit with a brick, I guess?

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    3. Re:It's the post office by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And, for the record, if you can't figure out the USPS website you're an idiot. All these idiosyncrasies have been around for as long as I can remember on their site, and yet we ship out stuff all the time with the system.

      So how, exactly, do you use their website to print first-class postage, then? (I don't; I use PayPal and don't even bother with their site anymore. That's not an excuse for them, however.)

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    4. Re:It's the post office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Indeed, I fell into this same trap last year when I needed to ship out several packages. The USPS website is so confusing it's almost deliberately deceptive. I fell for every issue the OP mentions and ended up paying way more than I needed to. The USPS should be ashamed of themselves, and they need to fire the toddlers who designed their site and hire some professional developers and designers.

      In addition to all of the problems with the website, I fell into another UX trap that ended up costing me money. When I got fed up enough to take my stuff to my local post office, the ladies directed me to the stack of flat rate boxes in the corner of the lobby. We had a little "Who's on first" routine. The flat rate boxes have "Priority mail" (or priority mail express) stamped on them in very large letters, with "flat rate" printed in little letters in the bottom corner. It took me some back and forth with the clerk who didn't hide the fact she thought I was as stupid as they get, before I figured out that the priority mail boxes and the priority mail flat rate boxes are not interchangeable. If there are two stacks of boxes that both have "priority mail" printed on them, which one will you grab?

  6. Free Market by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not "deception", it's Innovative Marketing, you commie!

  7. New Approach by vanye · · Score: 2

    Maybe if everyone just stopped posting comments to stories by Bennett, he'd get bored and go somewhere else.

    Active hostility doesn't seem to be working, maybe good old ignoring will.

    1. Re:New Approach by neilo_1701D · · Score: 2

      Neither solution worked for Tim Rue on comp.sys.amiga.misc and his endless blatherings on the V.I.C.

      It took the death of the Amiga and the Amiga newsgroups years later to accomplish that.

  8. Irony is... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    >> make the process more annoying than just standing in line at the post office

    BH complaining about wasting time.

    1. Re:Irony is... by kat_skan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe that's why it took him an hour to print a shipping label: every click was accompanied by a pointless rambling five-minute diatribe.

  9. You are making things WAY TOO COMPLEX by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've used the USPS abler printer a number of times, and not once had any issues.

    You seem to veer off the rails all over the place, but the main thing that mystified me is - why would a label NOT WORK the next day (a "confusion" you list more than once)? It's insane to think it would not. People like you are the reason shampoo labels say not to microwave the shampoo or pour it down your throat without breathing.

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    1. Re:You are making things WAY TOO COMPLEX by ZipK · · Score: 2

      You seem to veer off the rails all over the place, but the main thing that mystified me is - why would a label NOT WORK the next day (a "confusion" you list more than once)? It's insane to think it would not.

      From the USPS Report on PRC Rate and Service Inquiries for December 2011:

      You must mail your item on the date that you selected for your Click-N-Ship label; this is known as the Ship Date. An electronic record is generated on that date indicating that your mailpiece has been mailed. Packages shipped with labels that have incorrect Ship Dates may be returned to the sender and will not be eligible for a refund. If you are unable to use the label, you should request a refund within ten (10) days of the printing date and create another label with the correct Ship Date.

      That said, local postal offices apparently offer varying amounts of flexibility; but the policy is that you must ship on the Ship Date or cancel within ten days to get a refund. See also here.

    2. Re:You are making things WAY TOO COMPLEX by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

      We're gonna need a bigger label.

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  10. Wait... what? by Mr+Z · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You could argue that it's the user's responsibility to make sure their package fits into the box they select, but a user could reasonably assume that the whole point of entering the length, width and height is so that the USPS can recommend only those boxes that will hold the item. Remember, the user usually doesn't have these boxes in front of them at the time they're printing the label. They could end up selecting a box option, printing the label, taking it all the way to the post office along with their package, only to find out that the package doesn't fit into the box that they printed the label for, and that they have to wait in line anwyay to pay for an alternate method.

    Ah, you're one of those people who clog up the lobby boxing your stuff up at the post office, using the wrong tape (such as the tape meat to mark an Express package on something you're shipping Priority or First Class) and breaking in line to ask someone behind the desk for scissors.

    You realize that the post office isn't a full service pack and ship place, right? At least none of the ones I've been to around here are. You're supposed to have everything packed up and ready to go before you walk in the door. You also realize that your local PO probably doesn't stock all the sizes and shapes of shipping box the website describes, and that package weight is supposed to include the box, right?.

    That is, you're supposed to have boxed up your parcel by the time you got to this part of the form. The only thing missing should be the label.

    Could be worse. You could be like the person I saw who tried to send a package wrapped in normal Christmas wrapping paper.... That was going to be a shredded nightmare on the other side.

  11. On the other hand... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... I have shipped many, many boxes over several years, both USPS Flat-Rate and my own, via Click-n-Ship w/Postage paid via CC w/o any trouble. (and I always keep a small stack of Flat-Rate boxes at home, so I always know which one I need...)

    In all that time, I've only had one problem during transit of a "used my own" box (that I had simply dropped off at the Post Office) in that the website calculated the online discount correctly and the live mail handler at the processing center didn't and the package was returned. Taking that package back to the Post Office and talking with someone behind the counter got that cleared up and the package re-shipped correctly.

    The reviewer has some valid complaints about using the site, but is, perhaps, also an idiot.

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  12. This is tech news now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Didn't click through (I don't want to reward the author with ad traffic) but it seems he's looking for ways to get confused just to produce article content.

  13. Hey, dummy by atomicthumbs · · Score: 2

    The package dimensions are the dimension of the package, not its contents. A child would know ths.

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  14. CLOSED by oldsak · · Score: 2

    Working as intended.

  15. The real facepalm here is Timmylogic by MrVictor · · Score: 2

    Since I printed these labels with the ship date specified as today, it should be more clear if the labels will still be considered valid tomorrow, which is the soonest time that a pickup could be scheduled.

    On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

    ~C. Babbage

  16. bh;dr by xeos · · Score: 2

    perhaps the biggest bug was allowing BH to use the website in the first place?

  17. Slashdot keeps aggravating their "audience" by kbahey · · Score: 2

    The last time I commented about the continued posting of Bennet's rants, some idiot moderators marked it as flamebait.

    I am posting it again below. This is serious, not a troll, nor funny:

    Slashdot's editor team knows that the "audience" here hate Bennet Hasleton's continued long winded drivel, yet they keep posting his stuff regularly.

    This is yet another clear sign that Dice and Slashdot do not care about their "audience", just like the way they handled the Slashdot Beta debacle.

    Dice: keep ignoring your "audience" while expecting viewership to increase. Yeah, that will happen alright ...

  18. And, to solve the problem quickly, here you go: by aussersterne · · Score: 2, Informative

    https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-...

    Clear form, quick payment w/o entering lots of credit card details, every non-international USPS option, no need to mess with the weird postal service website.

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