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Text Editor Created In Minecraft

jones_supa writes: The redstone mechanics in Minecraft can be pushed surprisingly far to create rather advanced digital circuits. Thanks to a user nicknamed Koala_Steamed, there now exists a text editor inside the game (YouTube demonstration). It comes with a 5 x 10 character matrix in which each character uses a starburst (16-segment) display. There are 7.357 x 10^92 different combinations the screen can show, all of which can be controlled from a single line. The scale of the workings used to make this piece of logic, using only redstone, is dauntingly huge.

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  1. the whole things an editor if you're brave enough by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know it may not be the most efficient thing in the world, but its entirely possibly to write your term papers in Minecraft over the span of about 6 months to a year if you stick to harvesting wool to create a "paper" substrate and creating coal blocks for pixels. Presuming you make it long enough to avoid any creepers, the paper can be read from an enormous glass skybridge you construct over the next 2 weeks, and should only take 4 weeks to completely read, give or take a few days to a week if you fall from it a few times or if endermen start stealing text.

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  2. Most important question of all by NotInHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    does it support vi or emacs commands?

    1. Re:Most important question of all by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 5, Funny

      On behalf of Systems Administrators everywhere; I will personally bitch slap the first user that tries to tell me that their preferred emacs interpreter is Minecraft.

    2. Re:Most important question of all by Eosi · · Score: 3, Funny

      I prefer Minecraft as my preferred emacs interpreter. :-) (could not resist)

    3. Re:Most important question of all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I personally use Emacs as my preferred Minecraft interpreter.

    4. Re:Most important question of all by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You underestimate my laziness.

    5. Re:Most important question of all by tirerim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You think you're joking, but given that you can already play Tetris in Emacs, it's only a matter of time...

  3. Re:Cool, but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone needs a hobby.

    The argument that anyone should be doing something better with their time is imo terrible, because if widely applied we would all be working towards cancer research or whatever thing society decided was most important. How can you just sit here reading slashdot when you could be out saving lives!

  4. Next thing you know by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next thing you know, Minecraft will be self-hosting. Lord help us, the singularity awakes!

    1. Re:Next thing you know by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Informative
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  5. Re:Cool, but why? by Pace3000 · · Score: 2

    Maybe it will inspire a gifted youngster to learn digital electronics. Innovation often comes from playtime.

  6. Re:Cool, but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Think of what you could have done instead of reading slashdot. You could have arm-chair criticized someone else, for instance.

  7. Re:This isn't pure minecraft by MadCow42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He serializes the data and sends it over a single redstone line... just like you would do in a real computer.

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  8. the whole things an editor if you're brave enough by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 2

    Enderman only steal a limited amount of block types. Coal, ores and paper are not amongst those.

    Or so I guess. ;)

  9. Re:the whole things an editor if you're brave enou by rgbatduke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The really important question is whether or not at the Planck scale one finds that we are all one really, really big version of Minecraft, being played by beings that look strangely like turtles. All the way down.

    Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely rather than, say, bringing about world peace, curing cancer, feeding the hungry, or just plain moving out of your mom's basement. Not that I am entirely without sin in this regard myself, but it is a sad commentary on the state of the world (virtual or not) that we appear to live in when solving vast and pointless artificial problems in a virtual reality is more appealing than tackling the real and serious problems that surround us.

    rgb

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  10. Can Minecraft make a good annoying VI beep? by Dareth · · Score: 2

    Can Minecraft make a good annoying VI beep? If so you could simulate the two to four VI using jerks in the computer lab. Beep Boop... Beep Boob....

    Emacs will always be my favorite operating system.

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  11. Re:This isn't pure minecraft by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He serializes the data and sends it over a single redstone line... just like you would do in a real computer.

    It's actually rather interesting. I think firstly the keyboard generates serial pulses directly, with the pulses encoded with redstone repeaters. This is a very nice solution to keyboard decoding. Secondly, minecraft is a lot slower than the real world so high speed problems crop up early. Routing 8 parallel wires would be a real pain and you'd start to get clock skew problems if you weren't really careful about keeping the path lengths the same.

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  12. So let's work toward world peace. Here. Now. by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely

    Or post on Slashdot. Umm... So let's go about changing this right now. To solve the world's problems, we need to find their roots.

    rather than, say, bringing about world peace

    So long as people speak different languages, worship the creator in different ways, and faraway governments attempt to impose laws that end up creating an environment hostile to a particular group's way of life, there will always be war. How should that be changed?

    curing cancer

    You can reduce the incidence of Cancer by forbidding penetrative sexual contact during Libra, but I don't see how people will accept that. Besides, two-thirds of malignant tumors are unavoidable. How should that be changed?

    feeding the hungry

    Long-term food insecurity is a distribution problem, especially when countries use hunger as a weapon against their own people. How should that be changed?

    or just plain moving out of your mom's basement.

    Why is living with parents considered shameful, especially in an era of telecommuting?

    1. Re:So let's work toward world peace. Here. Now. by rgbatduke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thank you for so effectively demonstrating the existential ennui that paralyzes our entire civilization. Of course if you look carefully at your replies and actually think for a moment, the answers to each and every one are obvious and there are a rather large number of talented individuals who demonstrate this every day by their actions.

      The tragedy is the many competent persons who would rather build giant virtual word processors or make armor to sell in WoW than to take up arms against the world's sea of trouble and, by opposing, end them. All that it takes for evil to prevail is for good persons to do nothing, and honestly, building Minecraft engines is as close to doing nothing as it is possible to do and still breathe.

      rgb

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    2. Re:So let's work toward world peace. Here. Now. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      honestly, building Minecraft engines is as close to doing nothing as it is possible to do and still breathe.

      Oh get over yourself. None of it really matters at all anyway. Human interest stuff will generally last a generation or two at most. Eventually the universe will suffer heat death or some other fate resulting in nothing anyone does ever making a difference in a permenant way.

      PS I've no idea what your hobbies are, but I suspect they suck.

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  13. Can you infringe copyright with redstone? by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    given that you can already play Tetris in Emacs

    How long will M-x tetris last given the ruling in Tetris v. Xio and Mr. Pajitnov's admitted belief that free software deserves not to exist?

  14. Re:Cool, but why? by Psychotria · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obviously a talented individual, think of that useful software could have been written with the same amount of time and effort.

    I've been asked this question all my life.

    When I decided I'd like to fly to the moon everyone asked why. "You could have spent your time and effort making a ship to fly to Australia," they said.

    The time that I decided I'd like to write a series of novels that spanned generations of characters and several hundred years they said asked why as well. "Your time is better spent writing non-fiction and and historic account of something that really happened."

    I remember one time when I decided to ride my bike to the other side of town. My grandfather said "Why? The bus is faster and you'll be less tired."

    Sometimes I take a break from work. My co-workers ask me why when work is so rewarding anyway.

    The other day I spent a crazy amount of money buying ingredients to make a very tasty meal (well, I thought it was). I was asked why. It provided my body the same energy as something I could have made using much cheaper ingredients.

    Related to the above item, many of my friends ask me why I cook my own meals at all. If you look hard enough you can get someone else to cook something kind of similar for about the same cost.

    I once decided to make my own analogue clock. I made all the gears and built it from scratch. Took ages. Cost a lot more than an analogue clock I could have purchased (and certainly a lot more than a digital clock).

    Sometimes I do crosswords or solve other puzzles.

    Even more occasionally I listen to music.

    I go bushwalking (I am not sure of the American term -- walking in National Parks along trails?) and camping.

    I could go on forever and for ever.

    I don't need to do any of these things. I enjoy doing these things. I want to do these things. Most of them serve no practical purpose at all, apart from making me happy. That's not entirely true, though. If I set myself a goal that has no practical or useful purpose and achieve it I do get a reward. I even get a reward if I fail.

    There is no purpose to life apart from being happy (IMO). And if doing something meaningless makes you happy then... then, well it's not meaningless is it?

  15. Re:Cool, but why? by Psychotria · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I meant to add...

    When I am laying on my death bed and someone says "you did all these useless things -- you could have directed your talent towards really useful stuff and made lots of money", I will honestly be able to say "They were not useless; they made me happy. And that is what gave my life meaning."

  16. Re:the whole things an editor if you're brave enou by BForrester · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree entirely with the sentiment, but there is a massive psychological difference between virtual problems and real ones.

    With virtual problems, the rules are known and consistent, and the only potential barrier to success is the limitations of the user's abilities. If the user can accurately assess their own skill level, they can know if the problem is solvable, and possibly the time frame in which this can be done.

    Big, real problems are awash in variables far beyond the control of any one person. They may not be solvable given current restraints. Many of the "best" governments in the world, led by the most educated and intelligent people, and backed with enormous budgets are undercut by the chaos of global economics, damaged by misinformation and false intelligence, aggravated by the stupidity of other actors, and in turn conduct their own activities that damage the prospects of peace, or health and security for all.

    I might commit my life to a cure for cancer or world peace, and thus squander the next 60 years away because the world, as a majority, is not ready for those things. The Sudoku puzzle, on the other hand, I can solve before I finish breakfast.

  17. Just because you can do a thing... by sjbe · · Score: 2

    With apologies to Dr. Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum) this is a perfect example of people being "...so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. "

    I'm all for geeky, harmless, just-because-I-can projects for entertainment but... wow.

  18. Re:the whole things an editor if you're brave enou by m.alessandrini · · Score: 2

    Such things are not useful, but using our brain to do complex things is a source of pleasure for human beings, and arguably what pushed us to the current level of our civilization.

  19. Re:the whole things an editor if you're brave enou by causality · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The really important question is whether or not at the Planck scale one finds that we are all one really, really big version of Minecraft, being played by beings that look strangely like turtles. All the way down.

    Another really important question is just how much of the world's creative potential is devoted to creating meta-inventions on top of rulesets intended for something else entirely rather than, say, bringing about world peace, curing cancer, feeding the hungry, or just plain moving out of your mom's basement. Not that I am entirely without sin in this regard myself, but it is a sad commentary on the state of the world (virtual or not) that we appear to live in when solving vast and pointless artificial problems in a virtual reality is more appealing than tackling the real and serious problems that surround us.

    rgb

    The problem with things like feeding the hungry is all of the political opposition you would run into. Since the Industrial Revolution of the late 1800s we've had the capability of feeding, clothing, sheltering, and educating the entire world's population several times over. What we don't have is the political will to do it. Too many ruling elite would have to give up power for it to actually happen. That's the real obstacle.

    Most armed conflict is also to the benefit of this ruling elite, who use such phrases as "ordo ab chao" (order out of chaos) to describe their interest in it. Wars are very profitable if you're a well-positioned sociopath, and playing two sides against each other is a great way to increase your power over each. It's the same military-industrial-complex that Eisenhower tried to warn us about, not that we listened.

    The financial incentive related to cancer is that sick people are much more profitable than healthy people. A cheap, easy, one-time cancer cure (if there were such a thing) would absolutely devastate the multibillion dollar "cancer industry". The companies profiting from that would be just as eager to embrace such a cure as the RIAA/MPAA middlemen have been eager to adapt to an Information Age where the cost of copying and distributing a work is nearly zero.

    Getting out of Mom's basement was easier in the past when good jobs that led to good careers with good pensions were available to anyone willing to work hard, which was when the USA valued and protected its manufacturing base, recognizing it as the real wealth and independence from foreign nations that it was. Additionally, it's not generally young women who are staying at home with Mama. They're showing the drive and ingenuity that young men used to also have. I'd recommend reading Boys Adrift by Dr. Leonard Sax for an in-depth explanation as to why this is happening, from grade schools that try to force boys into developmentally inappropriate roles (and then brand them ADHD when it fails), to chemicals in the food supply that have a feminizing effect on animals and humans, to reduced testosterone levels and sperm counts, etc.

    These are all problems that we could do a much better job of addressing, with some of them being completely solvable. But for that to really get started, we'd first have to stop allowing psychotic sociopaths to have power and make all of the important decisions. It wouldn't hurt to also have a mass media that didn't use so many recognizable propaganda techniques, and/or a population trained in logic, reasoning, and introspection, considering these skills as basic as literacy. Until then, every starving person on the planet is basically a monument to how psychotic and fucked-up this civilization has really become.

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