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Washington DC's Public Library Will Teach People How To Avoid the NSA

Jason Koebler writes Later this month, the Washington DC Public Library will teach residents how to use Tor as part of a 10 day series designed to shed light on government surveillance, transparency, and personal privacy. The series is called "Orwellian America," and it's quite subversive, considering that it's being held by a publicly funded entity mere minutes from a Congress and administration that allowed the NSA's surveillance programs to spin wildly out of control.

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  1. How depressing... by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That learning how to protect your privacy from quasi-legal Govt. data harvesting could now be considered "subversive"

    1. Re:How depressing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The people doing it don't consider it subversive. The article doesn't think that it is subversive. Only Jason Koebler thinks that it is.

    2. Re:How depressing... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's depressing that it's necessary, but ...

      sub-ver-sive
      adjective
      adjective: subversive

              1.
              seeking or intended to subvert an established system or institution.
              "subversive literature"
              synonyms: disruptive, troublemaking, inflammatory, insurrectionary; More
              seditious, revolutionary, rebellious, rebel, renegade, dissident
              "subversive activities"

      noun
      noun: subversive; plural noun: subversives

              1.
              a subversive person.
              synonyms: troublemaker, dissident, agitator, revolutionary, renegade, rebel
              "a dangerous subversive"

      Getting around a surveillance state which has declared itself to be legal and legitimate ... well, guess what, demanding your rights now is subversive.

      When you have to hide from your own government because they have decided you have no actual right to privacy, your government is unjust.

      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

      That is now interpreted as "unless we say otherwise, and if you disagree you must side with the terrorists".

      The supposedly "free" governments around the world now pretty much require that we be subversive, because they no longer recognize or give a damn about our rights. So it's pretty much the only thing left.

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    3. Re:How depressing... by MitchDev · · Score: 2

      Actually, the fact that this is even happening is just a sign that the NSA can see into Tor and this is just a way to get peole to use it and "think" they are "safe" from the NSA spying....

      This is what America has come to...

    4. Re:How depressing... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      The only upside is that whether or not someone agrees with the assessment that this is 'subversive' is an excellent(and relatively quick to administer) assay for determining whether or not they are a worthless authoritarian shitsack who would be better off deported to some hellhole with a nice abusive father figure that they can look up to and salute.

    5. Re: How depressing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still prefer CVS actually. Never liked subversion much. Too complicated.

    6. Re:How depressing... by mitcheli · · Score: 1

      Getting around a surveillance state which has declared itself to be legal and legitimate ... well, guess what, demanding your rights now is subversive.

      ... declared itself to be legal ...

      I love how we use this phrase as if to imply that the government has somehow changed the rules on it's own without the consent or will of the people. All of these changes stem from the Patriot Act that followed September 11th. Which was voted into law by the Representatives that we elected. How many people actually read the Patriot Act? How many people chose to attend the House and Senate sessions where the nuances of the act were debated? How many people actually wrote to their legislators in opposition of the act? How many people actually chose to vote against the law makers that made this legal? The US is not a surveillance state that declared itself legal. The US is a Republic that grants the authority to pass laws into the legislators that we elect. Those law makers represent us. If we're not happy with the work they're doing we can do a number of things, first and foremost we can kick them out of office, next, we can choose to run ourselves and work to change the system, and third, we can actively protest our grievances. If people don't like the way it works, then it's incumbent on them to work to change that system.

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    7. Re:How depressing... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I love how we use this phrase as if to imply that the government has somehow changed the rules on it's own without the consent or will of the people.

      Until such time as they change the Constitution, it is still the highest law of the land. Deciding the 4th amendment (or any other part of it) is optional is not consistent with that.

      Ergo, it is, by definition, illegal.

      Yes, a lot of scared people have accepted this. That doesn't make it legal. It's expedient, sure. But legal? I don't buy that.

      And, since they've given themselves permission to do this in the rest of the world, without the consent of the people they do it to ... I conclude that America has made themselves the enemy of the liberty of everyone on the planet.

      In which case what your passive citizenry accept is irrelevant. Because the rest of the world isn't subject to US law, no matter how much you guys believe in manifest destiny.

      So, fight or don't fight your your rights, I don't care. But keep your fucking hands off mine. The rest of us haven't consented to this horseshit by the NSA.

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    8. Re: How depressing... by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

      The idea that they can be simply replaced if they do things we don't like is only true in an efficient and fair election system. Most candidates never state where they stand on most issues, and make sure the public never gets a chance to challenge them on any issue beyond asking single question. So you wouldn't know who to vote for to begin with, even if you assume both candidates were actually in opposition on the topic.

      Running yourself won't help as money is required to get your word out, and our voting system only works with two parties.

    9. Re:How depressing... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

      Please tell me how that is against the forth amendment? Also, please explain how business records provided after a court order (warrent?) by the phone company somehow breaks the forth amendment.

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    10. Re:How depressing... by mitcheli · · Score: 1

      So, fight or don't fight your your rights, I don't care. But keep your fucking hands off mine. The rest of us haven't consented to this horseshit by the NSA.

      But that's the NSA's job. It's posted in their mission statement on their public website. And news flash. If you think that whatever country you're in isn't doing the same damn thing... Then you're delusional.

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  2. tag the participants for surveilance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, Bob, attend this class, make a list of attendees. Oh man, this is too easy!

    1. Re:tag the participants for surveilance by Alain+Williams · · Score: 3, Funny

      All the more reason for these lectures to be delivered all over the country. They can't watch all of us ... Oh, wait :-(

    2. Re:tag the participants for surveilance by Steve+B · · Score: 1

      Hey, Bob, attend this class, make a list of attendees. Oh man, this is too easy!

      It was easy; the instructor gave me a copy of the list. Now, we just need to pull up the physical and e-mail addresses of Mr. Dover, Mr. Jass, Mr. Jablome....

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  3. Librarians are good eggs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Librarians understand.

    1. Re:Librarians are good eggs by jamiesan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and Lindy Booth is hot too.

  4. ZOMG, Tor?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cold Fjord should parachute in there and put a stop to this!

  5. Lesson 1: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Avoid going to meetings about avoiding the NSA while in public.

  6. And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welcome to the TOR class. To register, we need your name, DOB, address, Social Security number, and a short essay on why you fear the government...

    1. Re:And by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

      and a short essay on why you fear the government

      Because they seem to like to violate the constitution that they have sworn an oath to uphold. Add in that they like to fire drones at individuals whom happen to be in foreign countries as well as harass and arrest individuals in the US who happen to espouse ideas contrary to the current view of the leadership. Finally it is none of their goddamn business.

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  7. Makes sense, actually by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 1

    "Come on in, come on in, don't mind the webcam at the front door, it's there to detect any NSA agents who would try to infiltrate our premises."

    So NSA do love practical jokes, what's new here?

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  8. is "superversive" a word? by davecb · · Score: 1

    Wikipedia thinks that "Subversion refers to an attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, and hierarchy. "

    One might consider this superversive, an attempt to restore a social order's power of their security servicer.

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    1. Re:is "superversive" a word? by davecb · · Score: 1

      s/of/over/

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    2. Re:is "superversive" a word? by jd2112 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wikipedia thinks that "Subversion refers to an attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, and hierarchy. ".

      I thought Subversion was a Revision Control System akin to Git and CVS.

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    3. Re:is "superversive" a word? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must stide with the terrorists if you think that CVS ~= SVN ~= GIT

    4. Re:is "superversive" a word? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Subversion is bad, but to equate it with CVS is a bit over the top.

    5. Re:is "superversive" a word? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      One might consider this superversive, an attempt to restore a social order's power of their security servicer.

      So Stewie was being superversive at Woodstock!

      Stewie: (singing and strumming a guitar) "Establishment. Establishment. You always know what's best!"

      Crowd boos.

      Stewie: "LEARN THE RULES!"

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    6. Re:is "superversive" a word? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      subversion is just another form of 'git' ....

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    7. Re:is "superversive" a word? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Naa, CVS is where you get your prescriptions filled, and a Git is a real jerk.

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  9. Coming soon... by langelgjm · · Score: 4, Informative

    A Congressional rider attached to an unrelated bill outlawing such activities within the District. Kind of how like Maryland's Andy Harris inserted language to block DC's marijuana legalization.

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  10. Good For Them by some+old+guy · · Score: 1

    In addition to the obvious benefit of public education, it's nice to see a local government function giving El Federales the finger.

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  11. First rule about TOR club is... by Macfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    You don't talk about TOR club.

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  12. tor will not protect you from radar/space cap. tho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you encrypt your data. Can you encrypt your brainwaves and prevent them from watching you move around inside a building with building penetrating tomography? Can you prevent signals intelligence from being intercepted before data is encrypted, or can you prevent passwords and digital certificates from being lifted off a users brain and machine from space? If not, this course is just another error based on public misperception and cluelessness on the full capability.

    obamasweapon.com

  13. Thank your local librarian ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people don't realize librarians have always been on the forefront of protecting out rights.

    From fighting for censorship, to advocating for free speech, to stuff like this ... librarians tend to be people with a real understanding of our liberties, and why it's important to have them.

    So, if you enjoy the right to read a book which someone found offensive, of the ability to access stuff without having to pay the publisher, or free and anonymous access to the interwebs ... hug your local librarian.

    They or someone like them has probably done as much to maintain your freedoms as anybody else in the last few decades.

    Showing the public how to undermine the surveillance crap ... well, that deserves applause in my book.

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    1. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Librarians fought for censorship?

    2. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by rwa2 · · Score: 2
    3. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phrase should be "fought against censorship".

    4. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's why they were supportive of The Satanic Verses when it was published..

      Oh, shit, they weren't? Damn that sucks being on the wrong side, doesn't it?

      "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
      -- President Obama, addressing the United Nations General Assembly

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    5. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied."
      -- President Obama, addressing the United Nations General Assembly

      Misquoting with omission as a means to sell your views is no different from Orthodox Jewish newspapers reprinting photos of world leaders with the women photoshopped out. It's an exceptionally vile and despicable form of dishonesty.

    6. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I think you meant "fighting against censorship."

      Although I guess it depends on the library.

    7. Re:Thank your local librarian ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's why they were supportive of The Satanic Verses when it was published..
      Oh, shit, they weren't? Damn that sucks being on the wrong side, doesn't it?

      What exactly did they do that was not supportive? The ALA has The Satanic Verses on their list for Banned Books Week.
      How did they treat The Satanic Verses differently than, say, The Chocolate War?

  14. Librarians for Liberty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Librarians have been fighting the good fight in America at least as far back as the 1940s when they stood up to red scare shenanigans. They were also at the forefront of fighting the PATRIOT act, both in lobbying and in action when they redesigned their lending software to delete all information once a book was returned. They are also at the center of the hackerspace movement.

    1. Re:Librarians for Liberty by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear! Librarians are awesome and some of the most underappreciated people. But when they stand up for something, watch out! Freedom for anonymous browsing is another cause they stood up for.

  15. Subversive nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's not the government that loyalty is owed, it is the government that owes loyalty to its people, and it is lacking and found wanting.

    Even the place is right. Let congress and senate learn what horrid beast they have created.

    Of course, it could still be subversive, if they or some other service would abuse this series of meetings to flag and catalogue people to keep an eye on. All the more reason to make sure as many senators and congress(wo)men attend.

  16. I hope it's better than the last one by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their last seminar on How Not to be Seen wasn't very popular with some of the attendees.

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  17. must be bust... by garf · · Score: 2

    NSA must have cracked Tor...

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    1. Re:must be bust... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was my first thought as well. Or why would it be happend so late from public founding, right now? Respect to libraries and stuff, but still.

    2. Re:must be bust... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      NSA must have cracked Tor...

      That's obvious, if someone as corrupt and incompetent as the FBI can monitor TOR for over a year in order to prosecute Silk Road, then the NSA has doubtless tracked TOR users for years and told the FBI how to do it.

      Don't get me wrong, getting privacy into the main stream is a great idea. Unfortunately I think at this point it is too little too late.

    3. Re:must be bust... by moonlandingchap · · Score: 1

      of course the NSA (and any other gov' dept' they share intel' with) have got a way to monitor the tor users now. protect everything with the use of encryption on every digital thing you own. gov's hate encryption, use as much as you can!

    4. Re:must be bust... by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Consider the interesting parts of the internet to be Tempora ready https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .
      Every message in is reconciled with every message out. Finding the end and entry ip is then easy at a county, state or federal level.
      People may expect privacy and anonymity from networks that are collecting it all.
      If Bob and Sally are under constant constant surveillance privacy would be an issue.
      If Bob is under active surveillance and Sally as a journalist is, then anonymity for any whistleblower is interesting.
      Or every browser could be requested to leak the real ip. Tails or Whonix could offer more but users have to be aware of privacy and anonymity.
      Entering Tor as a totally different person every time is task that has to be understood every session.
      With every line of text linguistic analysis hopes for a bit more insight.

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  18. Re:Tor ? That dragnet ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NSA's own files as leaked by Edward Snowden indicate that the NSA has had poor luck breaking Tor. This isn't to say that progress couldn't have been made since then, but to simply point out that the use of Tor as an anonymity tool in light of the information provided is not unreasonable.

  19. Re:tor will not protect you from radar/space cap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No evidence that such technology exists. You're just another paranoid schizophrenic who craves attention and demands that the world believe your batshit insane theories.

  20. Re:Tor ? That dragnet ? by blackomegax · · Score: 1

    If you stay in ONION yes. But the feds own or control a vast many exit nodes to consider it a 'safe' route anywhere outside of onion space.

  21. What libraries are for by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Libraries are by design one of the safeguards against tyranny.

    And we're only safe once the tools to subvert domestic NSA spying are so ubiquitous that a workshop like this one are no longer newsworthy. But I'm sure some future John McCain/Lyndsey Graham congressional asshat will decry "public funds being used to support terrorism" and the program will be cancelled.

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  22. Re:tor will not protect you from radar/space cap. by blackomegax · · Score: 1

    You know, i hear you can take a ton of benadryl to help with schizophrenia

  23. "BLOCKED DOMAIN" - Nudity? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I clicked on that first link and was greeted with the following:

    This domain is blocked.

    Sorry, motherboard.vice.com has been blocked by your network administrator. All blocked pages are logged and reported to the IT Department.

    This site was categorized in: Lingerie/Bikini, Nudity

    Contact your network administrator

    #^$& OpenDNS :(

    Ironic captcha: permit

  24. Burning books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do we do once NSA starts burning books?

    Oh, wait -- I think I just... Godwin'd this one. Sorry, folks.

  25. Take a note from Magneto (X-Men) by davidwr · · Score: 1

    He (and the guy he took it from) a special hat to keep their thoughts from being detected.

    A word of advice: Don't use tinfoil. It might work, but if people see you wearing a tinfoil hat, they will think you are a crackpot. Except of course if it doesn't work, then anyone who can read your mind will know if you really are a crackpot or not.

    Disclaimer: The above is meant to be funny. Publicly-known technology is so far away from reading brainwaves at any significant distance that any claim that there is "secret technology" to do so is incredulous. It will be at least a decade, probably several decades, before you'll need to wear brainwave-blocking hats while walking down the street.

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    1. Re:Take a note from Magneto (X-Men) by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      It will be at least a decade, probably several decades, before you'll need to wear brainwave-blocking hats while walking down the street.

      Yeah, that's just what they'd want us to think...

  26. The NSA won't burn books by davidwr · · Score: 1

    That's what fire departments are for.

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  27. Hmm, how about teaching encryption techniques? by Bonzoli · · Score: 1

    I've been wondering what happens if my SSL key signer received a FISA gag order and request for my private keys, how would I know?
    Do you know?

    I'm suggesting they also teach how to selfsign their certificates and understand how this whole process works.
    If I were trying to monitor the internet's HTTPS/SSL traffic i'd go after those private keys soon as possible, especially since there is this belief that your safe if you have a signed pem key for your host/https/tls/etc..

    1. Re:Hmm, how about teaching encryption techniques? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More sysadmins should read "Bulletproof SSL and TLS" ISBN 1907117040

    2. Re:Hmm, how about teaching encryption techniques? by TCM · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they better teach about these techniques if you really think SSL works by handing out your private keys.

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    3. Re:Hmm, how about teaching encryption techniques? by trevc · · Score: 0

      Expensive!

    4. Re:Hmm, how about teaching encryption techniques? by Bonzoli · · Score: 1

      What? I didn't say that at all(troll bait?). Odd perhaps you should reread the post. The whole point is, why would I care what you encrypt your data with if I can just get the private part (key, csr, crt,pem,Password,whatever you want to call it today) your using to encrypt the conversation with? I would even encourage the use of said product because I am guaranteed a way to read it?

    5. Re:Hmm, how about teaching encryption techniques? by TCM · · Score: 1

      You implied your "SSL key signer" has your private key which is not the case as it would be royally stupid.

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  28. Tor IS the NSA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tor is a government project. Research the beginning of Tor. I am sad for anyone who trusts Tor.

  29. Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As good as the security is, one of the top rules for avoiding the NSA is to avoid all cloud services. No encryption is perfect, and anything traveling over the internet is being looked at, even if only by algorithms.
    DC Public's catalog and patron data are hosted in the cloud.
    Source: I work there.

  30. Re:Tor ? That dragnet ? by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    If you stay in ONION yes. But the feds own or control a vast many exit nodes to consider it a 'safe' route anywhere outside of onion space.

    That works for me. I always stay in TheOnion

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  31. Re:Tor ? That dragnet ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    had poor luck breaking Tor

    in 2006.

    This isn't to say that progress couldn't have been made since then

    That progress is called PRISM. Unlimited metadata collection is the veil-piercing tool that the TOR developers warned everyone about. They don't need to read the encrypted data in your packet if they can track the packet from beginning of the onion to the end. Even if the end is a hidden service.

  32. what about Postmans? they are FBI agents by user.aaaaa · · Score: 0

    what about Postmans? they are FBI agents with absolute memory/ I filed address change form, and One Of Them came to my door "why you did nt fill forms for other family members"?

  33. Wow, site won't load with NoScript by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A page about Orwellian surveillance, that shows no content without javascript enabled. Ironic.

  34. interesting venue by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many spooks'll be there taking names?

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  35. Late to the game by Gliscameria · · Score: 1

    The idea of teaching proper internet practices is a great idea. Teach people how to recognize phishing e-mails/sites and the like. Teach people how to use account names and password properly. Teach people the scams. but... teaching TOR at this point seems silly. It's been compromised. It's a bad lesson.

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  36. Re:THE DOLLHOUSE IS REAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's last centuries technology. Today, they can erase someone's memories and personality and program them with new memories and personalities. They can turn them into whatever or whomever they need. Today they are a call girl, tomorrow a ninja assassin. They are creating the perfect operatives -- people who doesn't even know they are operatives.

    THE DOLLHOUSE IS REAL!

  37. Trusting tor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is not something I feel comfortable with these days.

    Too many high profile fuckups lately, and while most of them are easily explained away by poor operational security, I'm having a harder time by the day swallowing the mantra coming out of the tor camp about how they're secure and solid and there's nothing to worry about.

    The tor code seems to be in worse need of a full blown security audit than openssl was last April.

  38. D.C. likes doing things like this. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    The city government of D.C. likes tweaking the nose of the Federal government. Ever seen one of these? It's a D.C. license plate, and it reads "Taxation Without Representation".

    Giving an ineffectual finger to the Feds is a pastime for them.

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  39. Self Identified Suspects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, Go to a TOR meeting in DC - nothing suspicious about that.
    Oh, by the way - everyone attending will pass quite a few federal security cameras and should not be surprised if their names and faces get added to some "List" somewhere.

  40. how to avoid the NSA by using a product they opera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clever. If you want to avoid the NSA and talk to someone over the internet, buy a VPS, disable console login, ssh and ytalk. Stop using the VPS upon it being rebooted and goto a new hosting company in another country. Easy.

  41. Re:how to avoid the NSA by using a product they op by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    A VPS could be given an offer by security services in its host country. Become a honey pot for all foreign networking traffic that expects privacy and anonymity.
    With tame international standards and all ip's been logged a person is left with the security and privacy of an application. As both ends of the encrypted chat are uncovered the only task is to get the plain text, voice before encryption by an app. Most open and consumer grade OS seem to be very useful to offer access to plain text as entered or a voice stream before encryption is used.

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