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Eric Holder Severely Limits Civil Forfeiture

gurps_npc writes: As most people know, the US has for quite some time let police seize pretty much anything they wanted to, forcing you to go to court to get back your stuff (at significant expense). Most of the problems came about because the Federal government let the local cops keep most of what they took.

Eric Holder, the U.S. Attorney General, has changed the rules of that program, making it more difficult for the police to do it under the federal program. They can still use local state programs, but that accounts for only about 57% of the cash taken. Holder did not end the program entirely — he left in some exceptions for things like explosives, weapons, and items related to child pornography, which all together amount to about 1% of the current federal program. Still, with this action he will have struck a serious blow to a despicable practice that serious newspapers and comedy TV shows decried as nothing more than legalized theft.

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  1. Closes a massive local law enforcement loophole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Local and state police used to be able to federalize their seizures to keep it beyond the reach of laws governing civil forfeiture. That protection is gone now.

  2. Re:This was done so Republicans can criticize it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The justice department is part of the executive branch, not Congress. This is the US Marshals, FBI, Secret Service, and so on. Holder is saying those Federal law enforcement agencies will no longer use civil forfeiture. Holder is in the correct position to make this happen. It could also have happened if Congress passed a law making it illegal, but enforcement is up to the executive, and law enforcement is up to the justice dept, specifically Eric Holder.

    Holder has decided to go out on a high note. It almost makes up for all of his jack assery for the last 6 years.

  3. Re:Waiting for Republicans to come in and defend t by JDAustin · · Score: 5, Informative

    RTFA next time -
    "Last Friday, Sens. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), along with Reps. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) and John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), signed a letter calling on Holder to end Equitable Sharing."

    Republicans called for this to happen.

  4. Re:This was done so Republicans can criticize it.. by JDAustin · · Score: 3, Informative

    RTFA - Republicans called for this to happen.

    "Last Friday, Sens. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), along with Reps. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) and John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), signed a letter calling on Holder to end Equitable Sharing."

  5. Re:Waiting for Republicans to come in and defend t by Slashjones · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Republicans that are concerned about civil liberties (ie, those who didn't think about civil liberties when the patriot act was first signed

    Hint: Those people don't care about civil liberties. They saw an opportunity to seize power and did so at a time where many people were foolishly emotional and therefore gullible. It happens every time there's a significant disaster. These people only pretend that they're sorry later, and that goes for all of them, not just republicans.

  6. Re:For the sake of discussion... by Zephyn · · Score: 5, Informative

    The driver would be arrested due to the drugs and possibly the weapons. They would be held as evidence. This hasn't changed.

    Here's what has: Up until now, the driver could just be driving around with the money... no drugs, no weapons, no probable cause or reasonable suspicion, and the cops could seize it based on the extremely flimsy suspicion that the driver was a drug dealer. This money would wind up in the coffers of that local police department, to be used at their discretion.

    The driver would theoretically have the chance to legally reclaim the money. However, the driver could easily wind up spending more money in legal costs than the original sum that was seized. And in some jurisdictions, the authority making the final decision in such a legal case is the same organization that seized the money in the first place.

    See the issues here?

  7. Re:Waiting for Republicans to come in and defend t by Hussman32 · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those across different ponds, John Oliver's takedown of this horrid practice in the United States shows why this was needed. I'm wondering if this piece had something to do with the response.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  8. Re:Waiting for Republicans to come in and defend t by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    No police power has been more abused over the years than property seizure.

    Here are some people that might disagree:

    http://gawker.com/unarmed-peop...

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  9. VLAD by bigtreeman · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm in Queensland Australia. We have the VLAD laws
    Vicious_Lawless_Association_Disestablishment_Act
    A biker used to live around the corner from us.
    His home and everything has been taken as proceeds of crime, it is now a construction zone ? fenced off, no entry.
    He's probably in gaol.
    And that's just for being a biker.
    All so the conservative state government can be seen to be hard on crime.

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  10. Re:For the sake of discussion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    And they have a database of plates of business owners that are likely to be carrying cash! (operation black asphalt) The whole thing is a scam, and massively changed my opinion of the police.