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A State-By-State Guide To Restrictive Community Broadband Laws

blottsie writes On Tuesday, President Obama will unveil a dramatic push to improve broadband Internet service for people around the country through community-built municipal broadband networks. Problem is, state legislatures around the country have passed laws making it considerably more difficult for these public Internet projects to get off the ground. In some states, building municipal broadband is prohibited altogether. This piece dives into the state laws standing between us and more competitive Internet service markets.

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  1. What does it mean? by nickname100 · · Score: 3

    I live in GA, and I see that here the service is unregulated. Does that mean that my local municipality can build something out? If so, what is stopping them? I have either Cramcost or AT&T DSL, and I would like the option of Google or some other fiber. Please help me understand!

    1. Re:What does it mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It means you'd have to get a majority of your neighbors to vote for internet, and in the deep south that kind of collectivism just isn't going to happen except in one of them there big liberal cities, and the big cities have probably already signed exclusive contracts with the cable company.

    2. Re:What does it mean? by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exclusive franchises for cable companies have been prohibited by the FCC..

      The Communications Act authorizes local franchising authorities to grant one or more franchises within their jurisdiction. However, a local franchising authority may not grant an exclusive franchise, and may not unreasonably withhold its consent for new service.

    3. Re:What does it mean? by BradMajors · · Score: 3, Informative

      82% of households have access to two or more broadband providers:

      http://www.broadband.gov/plan/...

    4. Re:What does it mean? by StatureOfLiberty · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm going to ask a question and risk downmod: I wonder how many saying, "Right on!" over that are bent out of shape over laws forbidding another competitor who doesn't have to play by the rules: local government, a "company" with the power to tax, and make you pay for the service whether you want it or not.

      Let's see, shall we?

      Wilson, NC built its network because there was no high speed internet available to local businesses. The existing provider refused to work with Wilson to move them to something faster. So, they built their own.

      So, Wilson, NC now has fiber to the home. And, it is cheaper than the crappy service they had before.

      You can't refuse to provide service to a community and then whine when they decide to serve themselves.

      The legislature later passed ridiculous restrictions on community broadband. Wilson is grandfathered for the most part.

    5. Re:What does it mean? by dbreeze · · Score: 5, Informative

      And 99.9% of that 82% are likely within a larger metroplitan area........
      I also pulled this from your link.... "Given that approximately 96% of the population has at most two wireline providers, there are reasons to be concerned about wireline broadband competition in the United States."

      (I've told this story on here before but it needs re-telling....)
        I moved to a rural NC area about 10-12 years ago and desired to start a computer shop but soon discovered that dial-up was all that was available. At that time satellite was prohibitively expensive for my meager funds and not that much faster. I heard about the state legislature enacting a new "E-NC" initiative to facilitate rural connectivity and with a cell tower only a few hundred yards across a field from me I decided maybe I could try a wireless internet service venture instead. I found a contact number and had a very interesting conversation with the director of the E-NC initiative at that time....
        I explained my situation and idea to him and asked about the possibility of getting funding to try a start-up to service my local areas internet needs. He told me that they had exhausted the funds set aside on 3 projects already. They had researched each proposed area, contacted the local phone/cable companies and verified that they had no plans of pursuing high-speed internet options in the area, and then released the funds for the start-ups. As soon as the funds were released the phone companies suddenly announced they would begin DSL service in 2 of the areas, effectively killing those start-ups. In both cases it was Sprint(later to become Embarq) who pulled the shenanigans. Of course, they also controlled the area I lived in. We didn't get a DSL option for another 6-7 years when the 3g wireless options came around and finally made them move.....
        Big money/corporations are(generally) evil...... jus' sayin'........

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    6. Re:What does it mean? by BrennanPratt · · Score: 2

      From the actual article:

      "These data do not necessarily mean that 82% (78% + 4%) of housing units have two or three competitive options for wireline broadband service—the data used here do not provide adequate information on price and performance to determine if multiple providers present in a given area compete head-to-head."

      So that's kinda a big fat nothing statistic.

    7. Re:What does it mean? by tburkhol · · Score: 2

      82% of households have access to two or more broadband providers:

      This describes a pretty bogus form of "competition." This statistics means that 82% of households can choose between 4Mbps AT&T/DSL over twisted copper and 20 MBps Comcast/TW over coax. That's an extremely limited form of competition, similar to claiming that Tyson Chicken competes with Midwest Beef, or that Audi competes with Peterbilt.

      There are limited regions where you can choose between multiple DSL providers (although this will usually require that you pay AT&T for dial tone and either AT&T or a second company for DSL). There are no regions where you can choose between coax providers.

  2. "undercutting a private sector unable to keep up" by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> deep-pocketed government entities from undercutting a private sector unable to keep up

    Funniest thing I read all day.

  3. what about bans on private competition (overbuilde by raymorris · · Score: 2

    It seems to me the article addresses less than half the problem. In many cities and counties, one cable has been granted a legal franchise - effectively a government-enforced monopoly outlawing other companies providing better service to compete. Because right now providers are needing to build out fiber networks anyway, overbuilders who compete with incumbents have done quite well, where they are allowed to do so. That say this is because they are going into areas where Comcast or Time Warner has an existing COAX network. The new competitor builds a FIBER network. Comcast doesn't have a huge advantage since they also have to build their own fiber network to compete.

    The article assumes without evidence that politicians would do a better job of running an ISP than processionals can. Looking at the actual results from city projects vs private over builders suggests the opposite - frequently after cities make a huge mess of the project hiring the mayor's brother-in-law to build it at 250% of the going rate, they end up selling the half-completed network to an experienced company who finishes the job and provides good service.

    Can we get a list of states or major cities that allow private competition? I know some parts of the Austin metro area have four or five companies competing, and you can get good service at a great price.

  4. Re:Hmm by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These laws have been passed because certain municipalities have been able to successfully cover the cost and maintenance of their own networks.

  5. On several mutated hands, oh god, a mutant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    On one hand, free access to information is arguably a fundamental right. The simple fact is, our governments are moving more and more towards online services. It's more painful, for example, in my state, to attempt to set up an appointment at the DMV via phone, than it is to click a few buttons on a web form. (And heaven forfend you simply show up without an appointment - hope you have a week of vacation saved up. I'm only slightly exaggerating.)

    On the other hand, the Federal government has no mandate, nor any business whatsoever, backing public Internet access projects. This is solely within the domain of the powers of individual states.

    On that third mutated hand, a man in a funny hat named Lincoln bitchslapped the sovereign power of states (admittedly, for perhaps worthy goals) with extreme prejudice, so screw that noise - grind the states and municipalities into dust if they want to suck the phallus of monopolizing providers.

  6. Enough of the anti-city agenda by tjstork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Laws prohibiting municipal broadband are entirely anti-city. In a country where politics is such that cities are routinely decried (while ironically states redistribute their tax revenues to rural areas and suburbs), I think it is time to frame broadband rights as a freedom from government for cities.

    Cities should be allowed to be more independent from the states that hold them. They should not be stripped of the competitive advantages that localized economies of scale provide. They should be allowed to offer their own utilities, to toll the interstates that cut through them, and they shouldn't have to pay a gasoline tax that largely serves rural interests, and above all, part of that independence should be to allow them to offer broadband.

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  7. Re:building municipal broadband is prohibited by crunchygranola · · Score: 3, Informative

    So if you support such nonsense, WHERE in the Constitution does it grant the Federal Government the power to regulate internet providers?

    Its called the "commerce clause" and even "originalist" extraordinaire Anton Scalia has no problems with that (see his concurrence in Gonzales vs Rauch).

    When you can show me an Internet system that only provides service within a state, and does not transmit packets across state lines, I will believe that that one particular system (but not others generally) should be free from Federal regulation. Otherwise the power to regulate interstate commerce in the Constitution provides the authority. This was uncontroversial in the 19th Century when the Interstate Commerce Commission was created (1886) to regulate railways, and did so within states, since they carried interstate commerce.

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  8. Re:No tax-money for pipe-dreams by PPH · · Score: 2

    people want bad enough to be willing to pay for it

    But people willing to pay and broadband companines willing to provide are two different things. In most cases, public utilities have a much lower cost structure than private enterprise. So they can justify providing service in ares which might not attract private investment at this time. The private providers allocate resources based upon maximising their ROI. And so it might be a while before the most profitable neighborhoods are wires up and they get around to the lower revenue areas. Or perhap never. But what they don't want is to have lower cost providers step in and pick off the marginal territories while they are holding them back.

    Wall Street demands earnings growth and, should they lose access to these second tier customers, their businesses might start to look like they are in the 'mature' part of their business cycles. And that's when investors start squeezing corporate boards for increases in efficiency. Like lower mangement salaries, less Hookers & Blow, fewer private jets, etc. Everyone likes to be in a growth market. Nobody (in private business) likes to maintain infrastructure, keep the snow plowed and potholes fixed. But that's what municipalities are good for.

    This is why Comcast and TWC wan to merge. It produces high levers of capital activity that investors have a hard time differentiating from O&M expenses. And so upper management looks like they are accomplishing things.

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  9. but politicians are better at legislating by raymorris · · Score: 2

    I should mention that politicians are probably better at passing laws than ISPs are. Each type of organization has it's own structure and it's own specialty. The city council promotes fairness and deliberativeness by taking holding two public hearings and taking six months to weigh a decision. That's good since they are passing laws.

    The company that builds new fiber networks makes decisions much quicker, and that's good because we want the whole city built out in a year or two, not ten or twenty years. So it's not that private companies are BETTER than political bodies, they're just designed to do different things. Here are some references. You can recognize easily find 80 more like them.

    Memphis Networx was sold at a loss of over $27 million
    Burlington, Vermont lost $17 million in taxpayer dollars
    Mooresville and Davidson losing $8 million each year
    Utopia $200 million debt is four times their other municipal debt, for all other infrastructure
    Chattanooga lost their credit rating did to overwhelming debt from their government broadband attempt

    Again, this isn't because government is BAD. It's because US government is designed to be fair, transparent, inclusive, and deliberative, not fast or efficient. To get a huge fiber network rolled out across an entire city in just a couple of years, and do it without spending $10,000 per customer, you need a fast and efficient organization. US governments aren't fast and efficient because they shouldn't be - they should be deliberative, transparent, and equitable.

    1. Re:but politicians are better at legislating by WheezyJoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Chattanooga lost their credit rating did to overwhelming debt from their government broadband attempt

      No. This, at least, is unsubstantiated FUD.

      From Forbes.com:

      In fact, contrary to Stephenson’s claims that municipal broadband hurt municipal credit ratings, S&P just upgraded the Chattanooga public utility’s bond rating, stating, “The system is providing reliable information to the electric utility on outages, losses and usage, which helps reduce the electric system’s costs.”

      A quick google search of Chattanooga and broadband turned up multiple articles agreeing that their local internet deployment has been a roaring success, particularly in bringing a new wave of business and revenue to the city.

      Not every city is successful, but that's no reason for states to prohibit them from trying, if nothing else to give the monopolists an incentive to improve their crappy race-to-the-bottom service.

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  10. Re:Be careful what you wish for by Ichijo · · Score: 2

    Do ghettos exist outside of cities, or do they exist because cities take wealth from financially productive run-down areas and use it to attract newer but relatively unproductive big-box stores in middle-class neighborhoods?

    If the latter, it would appear that breaking up cities as if they were monopolies would prevent the flow of wealth from the poor to the rich and thereby prevent ghettos from forming.

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  11. Re:"undercutting a private sector unable to keep u by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    "gubmint bad! monopoly i mean capitalism good!"

    *drool* snort

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  12. Re:what about bans on private competition (overbui by riverat1 · · Score: 3

    There are hundreds (maybe thousands) of Public Utility Districts in the country that provide electricity and telephone service to their customers often with lower cost and higher quality of service than the for profit competitors. They have boards elected from the customer base and their only focus is providing the service to their customers. I see no reason that can't work for internet connections as well.

  13. Re:"undercutting a private sector unable to keep u by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    educate yourself

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

    then form an opinion

    do you honestly believe that if government wasn't there the big guys would fade away? with weak government, the power vacuum is filled even more by plutocrats. they *want* a weak government. without government you think monopolies don't or won't exist? less government means less *regulation*, they gobble up more, you get less choice buddy. and you get less legal recourse from being shafted

    what you want, if you follow through on the coherent thought, is less corruption, not a weaker government that is even yet more beholden to money. not possible? study the laws on corruption in the nordic countries, you know, those evil socialist horrors that are actually richer, happier, and more upwardly mobile meritocracies than the usa pretends it is, but is rapidly losing with a shrinking middle class and corrupt congresswhores beholden to the financial powers that less government unleashes even more

    good luck kid escaping the bullshit mythology

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  14. Re:building municipal broadband is prohibited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's interstate commerce, so of course the federal government gets to regulate it. Up until it goes to the SCOTUS and the conservative appointees decide that it's time to gut th interstate commerce clause again like they did with health care.

    Bottom line here is that the main purpose of the internet is interstate and intercountry commerce, relatively few people exclusively use content in the same state in which it was produced.

  15. Hiposcrisy alert by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2
    There used to be an old joke about the Union guy who told someone that a particular job was his to do, and if someone else did it, he would file a grievance. Then whne they asked the Union guy to do it, he said "No I woul't do it"

    Today, the evilz socialistically guvmint want's to install public broadband? NO no NO! you goddamned commie! Thatz takin away money form the free market!"

    But they don't think there is enough profit, or something, so "NO broadband for you! Fucking ignorant commies anyhow.

    The similarites are kinda cute.

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  16. Re:"undercutting a private sector unable to keep u by silfen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    less government means less *regulation*, they gobble up more, you get less choice buddy. and you get less legal recourse from being shafted what you want, if you follow through on the coherent thought, is less corruption, not a weaker government that is even yet more beholden to money. not possible?

    After finding that wonderful article on rent seeking (although you still don't seem to understand that "rent seeking" is a failure of government, not markets), I suggest you look up the articles on "regulatory capture" and "public choice theory". More regulation is the primary mechanism by which "plutocrats" engage in rent seeking and create monopolies, and politicians and government employees invariably support them in that effort, not because they are bad people (most of them are quite well meaning), but because that's the way such systems function.

    without government you think monopolies don't or won't exist?

    Government is responsible for creating artificial monopolies. So, "without government" there wouldn't be any artificial monopolies. Would we be dragged into a quagmire of natural monopolies if government got completely out of the business of regulating markets? Nobody knows for certain because it has never been tried, but given what we know, it seems very unlikely.

    study the laws on corruption in the nordic countries, you know, those evil socialist horrors that are actually richer, happier, and more upwardly mobile meritocracies than the usa pretends it is

    Take it from an ex-northern European: you don't know what you're talking about. I suggest you read "The Almost Nearly Perfect People" by Booth. Northern Europe is neither socialist, nor a meritocracy, nor particularly successful. And even if it were any of those things, we couldn't implement the Nordic model in the US.