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Barrett Brown, Formerly of Anonymous, Sentenced To 63 Months

An anonymous reader writes with news that a journalist linked to Anonymous, Barret Brown, has been sentenced. "Barrett Brown, a journalist formerly linked to the hacking group Anonymous, was sentenced Thursday to over five years in prison, or a total of 63 months. Ahmed Ghappour, Brown's attorney, confirmed to Ars that Brown's 28 months already served will count toward the sentence. That leaves 34 months, or nearly three years, left for him to serve. In April 2014, Brown took a plea deal admitting guilt on three charges: "transmitting a threat in interstate commerce," for interfering with the execution of a search warrant, and to being "accessory after the fact in the unauthorized access to a protected computer." Brown originally was indicted in Texas federal court in December 2012 on several counts, including accusations that he posted a link from one Internet relay chat channel, called #Anonops, to another channel under his control, called #ProjectPM. The link led to private data that had been hijacked from intelligence firm Strategic Forecasting, or Statfor."

110 comments

  1. FTFY by CaptainDork · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Formerly anonymous.

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    1. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serves him right. He certainly doxed more than a few people himself. Let the dirtbag rot.

    2. Re:FTFY by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      people get less time for murder in some cases. not entirely sure the sentence fits the crime

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  2. lots of "formerly" to go around by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    do the crime if you can do the time.

  3. Serves him right by musmax · · Score: 0

    For using those pesky tags.

    1. Re:Serves him right by anagama · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Everyone seems to think he was a hacker. He's a __reporter__ .

      Not hacker.

      Writer.

      It's his job to tell people the news. He's going to jail essentially (though not technically) for linking to data. That ain't hacking.

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    2. Re:Serves him right by DriveDog · · Score: 1

      I don't know all the facts. Which makes me... like almost everyone else here.

      It certainly smells like "shoot the messenger" to me. Somebody was upset that their data was leaked, they couldn't or didn't want to attack the leaker, so they went for a convenient scapegoat.

    3. Re:Serves him right by TheRealLifeboy · · Score: 1

      Seriously, this case reveals much more about the brain-dead US legal system, the overreach by Federal authorities and the abuse of legal powers than it does anything else. There is no way that any sane person can justify 5 years in jail for linking to a stolen source in a forum.

      The pathetic bunch that ran Stratfor lost it and someone needed to take the fall for it. If it was a mom and pop shop that couldn't have known better that was "burgled", it would have been a different story, but these guys were supposedly the security experts and were asking to be hacked by their behaviour.

      However, Brown didn't hack them, he just reported?? This is like a bulldog that can't get to the postman, so he bites the fence out of frustration. Really really stupid.

  4. There is no anonymity by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been on the scene since the '70s, and as much as I hope that my real identity to not be revealed to the world, I understand that once I post something online I take a risk (calculated or otherwise) of having my real identity exposed

    There is no anonymity online or offline

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    1. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      K then, who am I?

    2. Re: There is no anonymity by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Funny

      There is a risk, calculated or otherwise, that you are Pierre Mohammed Finklestein III of Bychawa, Poland.

      I have determined this based on my keen understanding of the information I have about you. With a little more information I could reduce the uncertainty...

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      You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
    3. Re:There is no anonymity by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A lot of these guys get caught because they open their yaps. A lot of us old timers from the early days never got caught. When the 414's were taken down I know several people that avoided it simply because they actually listened to the "trust no one" mantra. Just like how the guys that took over WTTW never got caught because they did NOT open their big fat mouths.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

      So a tip from someone old..... earning "cred" is for noobs. Keep your mouth shut and you really reduce the risk of getting caught.

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    4. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice work, Inspector Clouseau!

      (Yes... yes... I have you now... *strokes beard*)

    5. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Says bragging dipshit...

    6. Re:There is no anonymity by greg1104 · · Score: 1

      You're right, these kids need more paranomia.

    7. Re: There is no anonymity by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      bragging is when you go "i did {x}"

      he is saying "if you don't want to be caught, do {y}"

      he's giving advice that doesn't implicate him in anything, in an on topic comment

      he doesn't owe you anything, so say "thanks"

      or say nothing

      or reveal the only real character defect in this thread, which is not being a bragging dipshit, but yours: loudmouth asshole begging for a pointless fight

      and that pointless fight will find you someday. you'll mouth off like you just did, because you wrongly think it makes you superior, to the wrong character, and depending on how badly you lose the resulting conflict, you'll probably be thinking:

      "should have just kept my mouth shut rather than cast unnecessary hate and i could have avoided this"

      good luck kid

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    8. Re: There is no anonymity by lucm · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are an unattractive girl, mid 20s, who has glowing stars on the ceiling of her bedroom and who goes to hot yoga class without realizing that yoga pants are not for everyone. You are lazy and significantly overestimate your intelligence. Your father is a fat guy who works in an unionized organization and prepares tax returns for $20 cash during tax season. You have a small pet, probably a semi-exotic bird, and there's a faint rancid smell in your bathroom that you can't explain. Your front teeth are ok but the side ones are yellow. You put the underwear that has no stain on the left side of your top drawer, and when you clean the lint from a dryer you tend to throw it behind the machine if no one is looking. You have vague notions of a foreign language, probably Spanish, but you always try to let other people think that you are fluent in that language. One time in middle school you did something wrong, like stealing booze, and when the theft was discovered you planted evidence to have someone else take the blame. When you masturbate, you think about the following: the young teenage girl next door (20% of the time), being raped by two old bums behind a dumpster (30%), doing a striptease for Steve Martin while he's drinking a can of lukewarm Diet Pepsi (50%).

      That's who you truly are. Your name or address is just paperwork.

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      lucm, indeed.
    9. Re: There is no anonymity by tsotha · · Score: 1

      You are an unattractive girl, mid 20s, who has glowing stars on the ceiling of her bedroom and who goes to hot yoga class without realizing that yoga pants are not for everyone. You are lazy and significantly overestimate your intelligence.

      Mein Gott! I totally know her.

    10. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A lot of us old timers from the early days never got caught" sounds like bragging to me.

    11. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were motivated enough (and well funded), I could scrape an archive of the entire history of all Slashdot posts (or hell, I'm the NSA and I have an archive of every post ever made to the internet as well as every SMS ever sent and every phone call transcript since 1980) and run a text analysis looking for posts that appeared to be written by the same person. If they were all posted anonymously, I'll still build a profile with all the information posted. If no clearly identifying information was ever posted, I still have timestamps that can be correlated to determine in what time zone you might be located, and cross reference that with other data that could shine some light on who you are.

      Or I could just subpeona (or hack) Slashdot and get for your IP address, and if you're proxied, just continue down the chain until I finally get to you.

      Or maybe your friend sees the window open with your post on it and posts a reddit thread titled "My friend Bob just posted 'K then, who am I?' on slashdot".

    12. Re:There is no anonymity by anagama · · Score: 1

      Barret Brown didn't do any hacking. He's a reporter. Reporters are fucking supposed to report the news, not keep it secret. This was just an example of the fact if the Feds want to get you, they have criminal code base so large, nobody can even count crimes let alone fit all of that knowledge into a single brain. Of course, not knowing the law is no excuse (unless you are cop), and having no intent to break the is irrelevant. What this boils down to, is the Feds can fuck you up any time they want if they don't like you. It's called tyranny.

      [In 1998, the ABA tried to count crimes contained in Federal statutes but gave up estimating the number to be in excess of 3000.]

      * * *

      None of these studies broached the separate -- and equally complex -- question of crimes that stem from federal regulations, such as, for example, the rules written by a federal agency to enforce a given act of Congress. These rules can carry the force of federal criminal law. Estimates of the number of regulations range from 10,000 to 300,000. None of the legal groups who have studied the code have a firm number.

      "There is no one in the United States over the age of 18 who cannot be indicted for some federal crime," said John Baker, a retired Louisiana State University law professor who has also tried counting the number of new federal crimes created in recent years. "That is not an exaggeration."

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB...

      See also, "Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent" http://www.amazon.com/Three-Fe...

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    13. Re: There is no anonymity by prsephton · · Score: 1

      From this comment we know you are 45+ years old, as anyone younger doesn't have a Clue

    14. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Slashdot stores IP addresses for Anonymous posts. You may have to go to ISP logs. Since the post is date/timestamped, it wouldn't be much trouble. Some proxies are a bit tough to sort, though, and don't keep logs at all. So there's no real way to link back to the person's actual IP address. You might be able to get a list of possible people, with a subpoena, but that's about it. Since many people pay anonymously, you can't even get a full list.

      People have to mess up in other ways if they're careful. In any event, a reporter being charged like this is disgusting. This is, basically, Texas arresting reporters for being reporters. Yet, I'm sure, they fully sponsor Fox 'news' and back their 'reporting' 110%!

    15. Re:There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a reporter, not a haxxor... Big difference. His job is to open his yap, and he should be protected and allowed to do so.

    16. Re:There is no anonymity by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Ah right, so being the mouthpiece for hackers engaged in malicious attacks makes you a reporter and immune to prosecution does it? The courts appear to disagree with you on that point.

    17. Re: There is no anonymity by some+old+guy · · Score: 1

      Or a Clouseau.

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    18. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it depends. The Peter Sellers "Clouseau" or the new bad knock-off version? Your age will tell, because if you are old enough to have been first exposed to the original, you'll not be able to tolerate the knockoff hack "Clouseau."

    19. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be a journalist, you need to:

      1. Flunk out of Calculus 1
      2. Have your application to transfer to the English Department rejected.
      3. Transfer to J-School.

    20. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is Federal, not Texas doing anything.

    21. Re: There is no anonymity by aberglas · · Score: 1

      You should not talk about your wife in that way.

    22. Re: There is no anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the no talent idiot wannabe....

  5. And now... 3... 2... 1... by tlambert · · Score: 2

    And now... 3... 2... 1...

    (1) Find a journalist you don't like who has linked to a vulnerable site they don't control
    (2) Replace the content at the link target with illegally obtained material about someone powerful
    (3) Sit back and watch how well the new SWATting works!

    Journalistic shield laws anyone? The new first amendment-resistant law enforcement looks like we need something to replace the old antibiotics...

    1. Re:And now... 3... 2... 1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (3) Sit back and watch how well the new SWATting works!

      what's new about it?

    2. Re:And now... 3... 2... 1... by tlambert · · Score: 1

      (3) Sit back and watch how well the new SWATting works!

      what's new about it?

      2 years in prison, a million $ fine, and no actual SWAT teams involved?

    3. Re:And now... 3... 2... 1... by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Aside from the fact that that wouldn't work anyways (intent to link to the illegal material would be required, and that certainly wouldn't meet that qualification), the hyperlinking charges were dropped. Yeah, the Slashdot summary is a bit deceptive (absolutely shocking, I know).

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  6. Be afraid by gophther · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not a fan of anonymous, but you should be very afraid when you look at these charges. This rather random assortment of charges that make you go "huh?" shows that the thinking went like this: 1) Get this guy 2) Charge this guy for things you don't charge all other people who do the same things. 3) Profit!!!

    1. Re:Be afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very afraid.

    2. Re:Be afraid by AHuxley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Re "This rather random assortment of charges that make you go "huh?"
      The US press and media thought it had it all after the Pentagon Papers

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers#The_Supreme_Court_allows_further_publication
      Now the US press has to try and stay how many hops away before publishing or commenting?
      Very chilling for the US press.

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    3. Re:Be afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ""This rather random assortment of charges that make you go "huh?""
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      That is exactly what I did.... "Wait this guy is charged with copying and paste a link? huh? wtf?"

    4. Re:Be afraid by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Three felonies a day. We all do it. Congress has set up a situation such that if the feds really want you they can find things to charge you with. I don't have a lot of sympathy for this particular guy, but you're right.

    5. Re:Be afraid by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      They couldn't prosecute 'Anonymous' so they targeted the first person publicly claiming to be a leader within 'Anonymous'. Pretty illogical because as I understand it, you can not be a member of 'Anonymous' once you publicly claim to be a member of 'Anonymous'. When it first came out 'Anonymous' had more to do with mocking the aggressive for profit bureaucracy of Scientology and the asthmatic dwarf in charge with regard to their desire to persecute anyone who protested them. So the pretence of being 'Anonymous' without actually being 'Anonymous', thus mocking their willingness to persecute people ie I am so afraid I must hide, screw you, no I am not. This then grew into the idea of activism where it was all about the cause and not about the people protesting, no celebrity activism. So a way to form a short term association around a particular cause and invite others to join and protest as one of the basically, nobodies, the invisible people, the people with no names and no faces ie the majority. The forms of protest taken and the causes are purely up to those people at that time. So it's hard to imagine how you could be or not be a fan of 'Anonymous' because it is what ever a particular cause is at a particular time and their chosen method of political activism. So you are either a fan of a particular cause and the method chosen or not and then choose whether to join in or not.

      So when the FBI chose to pretend to be 'Anonymous' they did factually become 'Anonymous' and their acts became the acts of 'Anonymous' and let's be honest they were enormously successful at raising the public awareness of 'Anonymous' and made it far more successful idea than it would otherwise have been. Without the FBI efforts it's pretty obvious that 'Anonymous' would never have captured the public imagination as well as it did, although I am pretty sure that was not their goal at the time, you can not ignore what they did manage to achieve or at least what it seems like they were tricked into achieving ;D.

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    6. Re:Be afraid by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      "Three felonies a day" is nonsense. Thoroughly debunked on skeptics.stackexchange.

      The felonies in the book are acts where for any particular random American it is possible, but highly unlikely that they will commit one in their lifetime. It is close to impossible that any American will ever do three of these felonies in one day. The claim that every American will do three of these felonies every day of their life is utterly ridiculous.

    7. Re:Be afraid by anagama · · Score: 2

      Complacency. What freedom haters have for breakfast.

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB...

      Aside from statutes, beware the CFRs:

      These rules can carry the force of federal criminal law. Estimates of the number of regulations range from 10,000 to 300,000. None of the legal groups who have studied the code have a firm number.

      "There is no one in the United States over the age of 18 who cannot be indicted for some federal crime," said John Baker, a retired Louisiana State University law professor who has also tried counting the number of new federal crimes created in recent years. "That is not an exaggeration."

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    8. Re:Be afraid by anagama · · Score: 1

      And just so it is clear what level of morality exists among Federal prosecutors, consider this "game" which certainly gets applied in real life:

      At the federal prosecutor's office in the Southern District of New York, the staff, over beer and pretzels, used to play a darkly humorous game. Junior and senior prosecutors would sit around, and someone would name a random celebrity -- say, Mother Theresa or John Lennon.

      It would then be up to the junior prosecutors to figure out a plausible crime for which to indict him or her. The crimes were not usually rape, murder, or other crimes you'd see on Law & Order but rather the incredibly broad yet obscure crimes that populate the U.S. Code like a kind of jurisprudential minefield: Crimes like "false statements" (a felony, up to five years), "obstructing the mails" (five years), or "false pretenses on the high seas" (also five years). The trick and the skill lay in finding the more obscure offenses that fit the character of the celebrity and carried the toughest sentences. The, result, however, was inevitable: "prison time."

      http://www.slate.com/articles/...

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    9. Re:Be afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at the dates, this was old Anonymous. There's a big difference between Anonymous 2 years ago, and Anonymous today. This was one of the good guys, not the scum script kiddies and extortionists running around now. New Anonymous is working for the assholes who are doing this shit. It's disgusting.

    10. Re:Be afraid by ikhider · · Score: 1

      Don't forget, the feds got his Mom too. They get you and your family, even if s/he lacks the technical sophistication to do anything.

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    11. Re:Be afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      7|-|15.

    12. Re:Be afraid by meta-monkey · · Score: 0

      Well, the FBI pretty much did shut down Anonymous. After they busted the inner circle of people who actually could crack things (Sabu et al) Anonymous hasn't really done much of anything. They talk about going after ISIS websites or whatever, but have they? And they've announced pretty much no targets in the US (don't rankle them feds). It now really is just guys in Guy Fawkes masks in their parents' basements.

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    13. Re:Be afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is NO morality among federal prosecutors. They are all criminals, complicit daily in the undermining of the rule of law.

    14. Re:Be afraid by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Apparently apart from these people http://www.forbes.com/sites/pa... or these people http://www.theguardian.com/uk-... but hey believe what ever you want to believe. I think the word you were looking for was LulzSec rather than 'Anonymous' but then those members of LulzSec choose to temporarily associate themselves with the idea of 'Anonymous' and choose their own approach, including the decision by the masters FBI to commit crimes in others countries by molesting children ie grooming minors to commit crimes, supplying the tools, the knowledge and the targets and those agents should have been extradited and prosecuted for their criminal actions.

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    15. Re:Be afraid by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      One of those articles is from 2012, and neither involves anything to do with the hacktivism for which Anonymous was known. Just another protest march.

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    16. Re:Be afraid by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Yup. Given a sufficiently stupid grand jury, I could be indicted for any crime.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  7. He poked the bear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bear doesn't like to be poked.

    1. Re:He poked the bear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does need to be poked though, but not with a stick. but with a very large gun.

  8. It's unfortunate. by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IMO he had a good case and could have won but I understand him taking the plea.

    He didn't know the information was there in the link that led to this whole thing and the "threats" were hyperbole at the best. He probably couldn't afford a good attorney and he was looking at decades in prison. Typical FBI strategy is charge them with everything in the book so they plea to lessor charge you actually want.

    It's a travesty what they did to him.

    1. Re:It's unfortunate. by tsotha · · Score: 1

      The FBI doesn't bring charges. That's the prosecutor's job. Didn't you ever watch Law & Order? With all the spinoffs in sindication it's on pretty much 24 hours a day.

      But what you're saying is true. 98% of prosecutions are pled out, and you know lots of those people are innocent. But the way the system is set up now they can throw 100 charges that all bring 3-5 years at you and all of the sudden you could be looking at 500 years in prison. Orrrrrr, you could take the plea and get three years.

      Objectively it's smart to take the plea, too. On average people who go to court get 20% longer sentences.

    2. Re:It's unfortunate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Objectively it's smart to take the plea, too. On average people who go to court get 20% longer sentences.

      Negative. I demanded a trial and my case disappeared -- not dismissed, just ::poof::, gone.

      Now, the thing to watch out for is that they can and will keep resetting your court date so you're locked up awaiting a trial and achieve a substantial amount of time-served, which they then offer you. Hey, you want to get out today? Take time served by admitting you're guilty.

      Fail to admit you're guilty on principal because you know you'll win? The case doesn't go to trial because it makes the DAs and prosecuter's numbers look bad. Your "people who go to court" number is the vast minority of cases. Additionally, if the defendant has a court appointed lawyer, then chances are that they are working for the DA, not the pre-trial detainee and trying to get you to plea. It's how it works: They railroad you through the system so they can pull favors for the clients they actually need to get off as innocent. I should know, I helped fire about a dozen court appointed attorneys while in jail, and out of the ~100 or so people I talked to, all of them with court appointed attorneys felt like they were working for the state's interest and not theirs. Most just didn't want to fuck up their chance at a plea deal -- The courts do seem to retaliate if you make them do their fucking jobs.

      There really is no Justice system anymore. Courts are for show. Also, before any holier than thou lawyers or justices pipe up: You're part of the problem since you don't help fight the corruption of your peers.

    3. Re:It's unfortunate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally, naively incorrect on the details of how the federal criminal justice system works. What you describe here is only true for the state systems. I was extradited from my home in Fayetteville, Arkansas to New Jersey on what's called a "criminal complaint" in January of 2011. The complaint is not an indictment, but it does detail a charge and is grounds for arrest and extradition on that same charge. Mine was written solely by the FBI, a prosecutor is unnecessary. I was held under bail in New Jersey from then on, and the grand jury in my case did not reveal an indictment until August of that same year.

    4. Re:It's unfortunate. by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      True story.

      Buddy of mine is a hard-core Republican. Was, anyway, a huge law enforcement cheerleader. Cops can do no wrong, people wouldn't be on trial if they weren't guilty, lock 'em up and throw away the key. White, moderately wealthy businessman, even donated two German Shepherds to the local PD.

      Well, he was in Ohio once and had a bad day. He'd been out to dinner and had a few drinks, but had taken plenty of time to sober up before hitting the road back to his hotel. Cops pulled him over, he blew and got a .085 when the legal limit is .08. That's too bad. He tried to do the right thing by waiting, but it wasn't quite long enough. So okay, a DUI sucks, but do the crime and do the time. A DUI isn't the end of the world.

      Well, the cops also found in his glove box his legal, registered, holstered, unloaded pistol for which he has a valid concealed-carry permit. They charged him with a second degree felony that had to do with brandishing of a firearm while drunk. The law was intended for people who bring guns into bars and get drunk, but fuck it, let's throw it at this guy.

      So Friday night he gets hauled off to the felony jail. Thrown in to a stinky holding cell with a bunch of people from a very different socio-economic class than he is. Cops could not give less fucks about him, his "rights," that whole "phone call" thing is a myth. They gave him a piss-stained, threadbare blanket, though, so that was something.

      And before you say "drunk divers deserve anything they get!" remember the DUI isn't the issue. He was fine facing the music for that one. Did the crime, would take the punishment. But the felony is kind of life-ending. Two years in prison, no voting, no credit. That is excessive for blowing a .085.

      Now you would think any reasonable prosecutor would drop the felony charge. Seriously, there was no danger to anyone from his weapon, it's a real big, big stretch to see how that law even applies in his case. And he had no criminal record, upstanding member of society, businessman, married, etc etc. And white! That's worth something, right? Nope. Apparently the state attorney wants to run for Governor and so they're cracking down on anything to do with guns or drunk diving, because that's what scares soccer moms.

      So he hires the best attorney he can find and is going to take it to court. During discovery they get to see the cops' dash cam. My friend has a Florida "Choose Life" license tag (like I said, big Republican). They're yellow. In Ohio (apparently) a yellow tag is given to drunk drivers as a public shaming/awareness thing. So that's what got the cops interested in him. They ran his plates and saw his last name, which happens to be the same last name as a local judge the cops don't like and they erroneously thought he was related (you could hear them talk about this on the video). So they followed him and you can see from the footage that at no time did he swerve, cross the line, do anything to merit a stop. When they had first seen him a few miles back, though, he had made a u-turn in a parking lot and they figured that was good enough.

      So basically the cops went after him vindictively, looking for something to nail specifically him with, and then encountered absolutely no reasonableness from the DA's office. It took 8 months and $30,000 in legal fees to finally get the gun charge reduced to a misdemeanor with no time. (He dutifully paid the fines and did the community service and education for the DUI. Again, that wasn't the issue).

      Now he's slightly changed his tune on his view of the justice system. All that, and he was rich and white! Imagine if he'd been poor and black!

      Anyway, just an interesting story.

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      We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
    5. Re:It's unfortunate. by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Who prosecuted you - the feds or the state of New Jersey?

  9. You can't trust any hacking charges now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He was accused of hacking. We learned from the recent NSA Snowden leaks, that NSA hacks computers, but sends the data to scapegoat targets and collects the data as it crosses the public network.

    So when you see a high anti-US person conveniently on a hacking charge, you have to immediately ask if he's been fitted up for the crime, if he's one of these scapegoat targets.

    http://boingboing.net/2015/01/18/ecstatic-nsa-spooks-delight-in.html

    "But the loot isn't delivered directly to ROC's IP address. Rather, it is routed to a so-called Scapegoat Target. That means that stolen information could end up on someone else's servers, making it look as though they were the perpetrators."

    There's quite a few of these that have raise eyebrows, Pirate Bay founder hacks Sweden, supposedly to look for extradition warrants, and yet leaves a trail of evidence back to himself?? Handy, who gains most from that? Not him, there is no extradition treaty between Laos and Sweden. North Korea hacks Sony, NSA justifies its surveillance program. Who gains most?

    I have my doubts.

    1. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      I don't feel he is an "anti-US" person...seems like a "pro-US" for wanting to expose the military industrial complex...but wanting these freedoms is enough to get that label these days. With our laws we would have locked up Paul Revere, John Adams, and the whole lot of them. Per the US PATRIOT Act all the "forefathers" of the US would be considered criminals and / or terrorists. If the US / UK independence was modern-day it would never have been able to get off the ground.

    2. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was accused of threatening to kill a federal agent and his family, and likely would have been convicted of it. The hacking crap would probably have been dropped.

    3. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't get it, do you? *ALL* these charges are potentially bogus because of the dumbass NSA who is allowed to freely operate thanks to an apathetic and docile population who would rather focus on what Britney Spears is doing than care about their civil liberties.

    4. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't get it, do you? Threatening to kill law enforcement officer is a really big real-world deal irrespective of your silly fantasy world views.

      -legal.troll

    5. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by blackomegax · · Score: 1

      Yeah? prove he did so at all, troll.

    6. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOW7GOrXNZI

    7. Re:You can't trust any hacking charges now by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      The article points to a YouTube video of him doing this.

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  10. hit somebody with his car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This guy should have hit and actually killed somebody with his car, he would have faired better in court. These laws need some serious relooking.

  11. with "good time"... by bferrell · · Score: 1

    he's out in 18 months

  12. who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by raymorris · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Does anyone here happen to know who this guy is, what he did? TFS mentions what the prosecutor intended to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, but they could prove that All Capone cheated on his taxes and OJ Simpson intimidated a guy in a hotel room. They were pursued and partially sentenced based on what they DID, apart from which bits the prosecution could prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

    If asked "who was Al Capone?", you wouldn't answer "a guy who cheated on his taxes". Who is this person?

    1. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You pretty much nailed it. He isn't quite Al Capone, but he is a dirtbag. This is a case of his karma catching up with him.

    2. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 3, Informative

      the charges he's going down for are from his threats to law enforcement and their families, not even the hacking.

    3. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by anagama · · Score: 2

      He isn't even a hacker -- he's a reporter FFS. He's going down for reporting stuff the powers that be didn't want reported, the actual crime he is being punished under is just a technicality.

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    4. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bollox, he linked to files from a security breach to promote his web project. You can't have a site linking to that sort of stuff without being incognito. Any idiot knows that. As someone else said, the guy was an attention whore, who wanted people to think he was part of anonymous. Just look at how he acts on those anonymous documentaries and you'd get this impression. He deserves this, not least for being a cocky loudmouth.

    5. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well aren't you a condescending twat

    6. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by Shatrat · · Score: 1

      He deserves to spend years in prison for being a pretentious asshole? That's ridiculous.

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    7. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My computer doesn't have a 'start' button, insensitive Windows using clod!

    8. Re:who is he? (Al Capone the tax evader) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah point taken, I didn't see how that would come across, I'll rephrase. The sentence is way too heavy-handed for the crime there's no-doubt. However, when people want to play around and be openly associated with (what the law considers) criminals and even subtly hinting at affiliation with those groups for whatever purpose, in the end I still sort of think "fuck 'em".

  13. treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone involved in this prosecution should be executed for treason

    1. Re: treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Rage away, little nerd. We're watching and laughing. Meanwhile the Real World shits all over you. Nobody will be prosecuted but your "heroes". Get used to it.

    2. Re: treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Karma will catch up to people like you. /Said with Dexter-like calm.

    3. Re: treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't you a bit too old to be watching cartoons? I mean really, a Dexter's Laboratory reference? What are you, 10 years old?

  14. Rock Rock Rock Rockin Robin - Tweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bubba: "In Time You Will Call Me, Master"

  15. It's going to get worse quickly! by s.petry · · Score: 2

    In addition to jailing whistle blowers as we have seen numerous times, Journalists who report what Whistle blowers tell them are now felons. The first amendment has officially been shredded, and now comes the icing on the cake.

    CISPA is back on the fast track program, as well as other programs to jail anyone and everyone including White hats.

    Since the TPP is being fast tracked too, and corporations have immunity from all prosecution, we may not know what happens since Chinese hackers will simply be handing names to US officials who will make people disappear. Who's gonna write an article when they are going to prison for doing so?

    The thing is, I have not seen anyone screaming about CISPA like the last go around. Nobody seems to know anything at all about any of these other programs, and the news won't even mention TPP. If you are not nervous about the political happenings going on, you are a fool.

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    1. Re:It's going to get worse quickly! by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Re:"The first amendment has officially been shredded, and now comes the icing on the cake."
      Anonymity and privacy for whistleblowers is gone with systems like Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      The ability to track back any contact with a journalist removes all anonymity. The privacy of the message could be lost to malware.
      GCHQ captured emails of journalists from top international media (19 jan 2015)
      http://www.theguardian.com/uk-...
      The US always thought it was legally covered with a free and unrestrained press.
      Re "Nobody seems to know anything at all about any of these other programs"
      The UK media could be the way to understand the tracking and results.

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  16. Threatened an FBI agent for seizing documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and was apparently in heroin withdrawal on the day of his arrest, according to the never-wrong Wikipedia.

    Fun times.

  17. Accessory after the fact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So i you know anyone who has ever committed a crime you are guilty? Just what is that charge exactly anyway?

    1. Re:Accessory after the fact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just what is that charge exactly anyway?

      Helping someone hide their murder victim's body makes you an accessory after the fact. Helping someone sell their stolen goods makes you an accessory after the fact.

    2. Re:Accessory after the fact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats not what he asked now is it?

      Guilty by association is what he is on about... I know plenty of criminals, but im not one myself. But the way the authorities
      today deal with these things is by attacking the ones they CAN get too, because why not right?

    3. Re:Accessory after the fact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't too bright, are you? The commenter was pointing out WHAT THE ACTUAL CRIMINAL CHARGE IS AND WHY THAT ACTIVITY IS CRIMINAL.

      -legal.troll

  18. you never could trust "hacking" charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hacking" never meant anything outside of a small in-group, where it meant "outstanding creativity with technology". This is fundamentally a constructive activity, whereas the term as hijacked by the security industry s'kiddies is fundamentally destructive, breaking stuff for profit, like by rubbing other people's faces in their failures so you can show off how much smarter you are, or to sell bits of software supposedly mitigating holes and attacks, or whatever.

    Outside of that in-group, thanks to the security s'kiddies, then the media including hollywood, then the lawmakers, it has become to mean "we don't know what exactly but presumably(!) something bad involving these computer thingies in ways we probably don't even understand". Criminalising this --by outlawing "computer hacking" while leaving the entire thing undefined, possibly deliberately-- means exactly that it's a federal felony to do something only not even the prosecutor knows or understands what this something really is. You cannot possibly trust that this way justice will be done.

    On top of that, there is the entire plea deal thing. "we'll drop some charges if you just admit guilt for the rest of them, eh?" is a bad deal for the prosecuted, moreso because the prosecution --as it does-- will just stack up some more charges to have "bargaining chips" against you. In fact, taking such deals is bad for everyone else, too, because it creates uncontested precedents. "Look, just take that deal like everyone has before you, so we have some more warm bodies to fill our prisons with. Be nice and you get out earlier than you would if we thought up some more charges and threw them at you too."

  19. Or do what Aaron Swartz did by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give yourself a suspended life sentence because you don't want to do the time.

  20. What is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the difference, between making a threat and transmitting a threat? Could this possibly be some kind of double jeopardy issue?

    I realize my notion of this is very simplified, but still I found it a little odd.

    1. Re:What is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Transmitting a threat" just means it went across state lines. No it doesn't have anything to do with double jeopardy, you're just ignorant, but I'm sure all the lawyers involved feel reassured that you've got your eye on the case.

      -legal.troll

  21. He's Sort of a Basketcase ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a travesty what they did to him.

    Is this the guy you're defending? So is he admitting to hiding laptops from a lawful investigation in that video?

    1. Re:He's Sort of a Basketcase ... by anagama · · Score: 1

      Get off it -- that search warrant was based on a reporter posting a link to data. The underlying issue is that he is being punished for engaging in 1st Amendment activity, the ultimate basis for his punishment doesn't matter to the Feds.

      Think of it this way: say you decided to install Chrome on your computer, so you download it from the official location and install it. Then a warrant is issued so the cops can examine your laptop to figure out if you installed Chrome. You're thinking "WTF?" that's not a crime and so you give them some lip. Now you're fucked. They hated you because of some random reason, but now they get to punish you -- that it is for some random reason doesn't matter. That's what happened here -- the Feds were out to get him and they got him.

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  22. Looks the NSA are hardcore blackhats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if that article you linked is even partially accurate ...

    captcha: quieted

  23. Derp by Daimanta · · Score: 1

    It's Stratfor, not Statfor!

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  24. I misread the given name as Bennett... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And clicked, hoping to read comments celebrating his departure.

  25. Why only in America? by aberglas · · Score: 1

    Australia, Canada and the UK are hardly perfect. But this type of legal abuse is unheard of. Somehow the courts have remained independent of politics. There are no huge sentences handed down for trivial crimes. And plea bargaining is nothing like as bad.

    Is it really true that the religious right are so law and order driven?

  26. Thanks for admitting that you're a paid shill. by FallenTabris · · Score: 1

    All the other AC trolls here aren't so thoughtful.