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FCC Fines Verizon For Failing To Investigate Rural Phone Problems

WheezyJoe writes Verizon agreed to a $5 million settlement after admitting that it failed to investigate whether its rural customers were able to receive long distance and wireless phone calls. The settlement is related to the FCC's efforts to address what is known as the rural call completion problem. Over an eight-month period during 2013, low call answer rates in 39 rural areas should have triggered an investigation, the FCC said. The FCC asked Verizon what steps it took, and Verizon said in April 2014 that it investigated or fixed problems in 13 of the 39 areas, but did nothing in the other 26.

"Rural call completion problems have significant and immediate public interest ramifications," the FCC said in its order on the Verizon settlement today. "They cause rural businesses to lose customers, impede medical professionals from reaching patients in rural areas, cut families off from their relatives, and create the potential for dangerous delays in public safety communications." Verizon has been accused of letting its copper landline network decay while it shifts its focus to fiber and cellular service. The FCC is working a plan to protect customers as old copper networks are retired.

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  1. copper lines going away like analog TV by turkeydance · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Grandpa, what are those things called, again?"

    1. Re:copper lines going away like analog TV by chesterw · · Score: 5, Informative

      Eventually, perhaps. But read the headline again: "Rural Phone Areas." I live 9 miles from the nearest place I get cell reception. Copper is still the only viable option where I live. It ain't dead yet.

    2. Re:copper lines going away like analog TV by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Grandpa, what are those things called, again?"

      Suck it youngsters!

      I live in Virginia Beach and still have a copper POTS line with Verizon -- my TV and internet are via coax from Cox. Having copper has it's advantages, like (1) still working in an extended power outage, (2) not having to pay for the replacement battery in the eMTA modem and (3) being able to get phone service from third-party provider. Once you switch to FiOS or simply phone over fiber, you're stuck having to use Verizon over that media and they will *not* ever switch you back to copper.

      During one of the last bad hurricanes that caused an extended power outage of a few days, copper landlines were of the few working phones (land or wireless) in my neighborhood / area. I've only been w/o phone service *once* here since 1985, when the power when out across the city for over a week after a hurricane, when the Verizon generators finally ran out of fuel.

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  2. So what next? by misterthirsty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does Verizon feel that these fines obviate their responsibility to act? Is it cheaper to pay the fines than fix the problem?

    1. Re:So what next? by tnk1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They are still required to act on it. There is usually an order to remedy the solution along with any fine. If they don't act they would face the same fines.

      The real question is the second one you asked. If they can pay 5 mil a year and it costs 10 mil to fix the issues, then I'll take the fine every time.

      If there was personal executive responsibility, then if I fail to execute the task, and then I get arrested for persisting... then 10 mil of Verizon's money is less important than staying out of jail. There is the other option that Verizon could be disqualified from things that give them the potential for much higher profits later. Otherwise, its all about the fines.

      When someone doesn't pay their dues for our HOA, we don't just fine them or send them to collections. We revoke their visitor parking passes and their pool rights. We also slap liens on their property. Even that is usually not enough to get people to pay, but it may be enough to get them to increase the priority of who they pay first. Point being that there are things the FCC may or may not be able to do, but if they go to court they might be able to get other remedies.

      Now, if the FCC does *not* have the ability to apply other remedies... then Verizon will just pay the bill and keep on keeping on.

    2. Re:So what next? by preaction · · Score: 4, Funny

      Rich people don't go to jail. Anyone we could hold responsible cannot be held responsible for anything.

    3. Re:So what next? by preaction · · Score: 2

      And don't give Bernie Madoff to try to refute me. He was a sacrifice to ensure that we think the regular Joe Rich Person could go to jail. They can't.

    4. Re:So what next? by sjames · · Score: 2

      Also, he ripped off people richer than himself. Had he stuck to raiding retirement funds, he would still be a free man.

    5. Re:So what next? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Or maybe refund the money they've been given to maintain it, or the subsidies to expand it.

      Sorry, but the telecom companies have been handed huge piles of cash to maintain this stuff ... that they've sat on it and failed to invest in all of their infrastructure is their damned problem.

      They weren't given that money to only invest in the most profitable stuff ... they were given it to invest in the entire system so that it was there for everybody.

      Greedy, shortsighted corporations don't need to charge more to pay for that stuff ... they need to use the money they've been given/have been charging for what it was for in the first place.

      Mostly I think they've been lining executive pockets, and bribing politicians so they can keep doing the same crap.

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  3. Success! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So Verizon accepted a fine of $5,000,000. For Verizon, I call that a success. Given their size nothing at all is going to cost them less than 5 million. There is no way in hell that investigations into rural phone problems would have cost less.

    This is just the cost of doing business, and it's certainly more profitable to break the law and pay the fine than it is to do what they are supposed to do.

    Until the fines are set to a level to remove all profit and THEN put a punishment on top, large business will continue to flout the law because it's more profitable.

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    1. Re:Success! by Sebby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's why I think fines should be based on a percentage of revenue for the timeframe of the infraction, instead of a fixed (usually capped) amount. That would make it difficult for them to say with certainty that it would cost less to break the law than to actually deal with it (not to mention the investors' backlash if it affects dividends, etc).

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    2. Re:Success! by nobuddy · · Score: 2

      The right wing think tanks will tell you all day long how such a law will destroy the economy, give your children aids and rabies, and rape your pets.

  4. Pocket Change by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And to pay this fine, the execs have their coffee ladies sweep the corners of the executive lounge for dropped money...

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  5. Not surprising. by chesterw · · Score: 2

    At my home, I'm about 9 miles from anywhere I can get cell reception. The simple truth is that Verizon doesn't care about investing in low population density areas, whether it's cellular or wired connectivity. Why would they? It costs the same to put up a tower in rural areas (neglecting real estate cost), and they recover far fewer customers to offset the cost. The bottom line: Deer don't use 4G. It leaves some of us out in the cold, but the business model makes sense.

    1. Re:Not surprising. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      When developers wanted to build $1M+ houses and a golf course in the eastern foothills above Silicon Valley in the 1990's, the short answer should have been no. Alas, the City of San Jose didn't see it that way. Taxpayers paid $200 million to run water and sewer lines out to the new development. The HOA for that development nearly went bankrupt during the Great Recession when people moved out, no one wanted to move in, and everyone else didn't want to pay for keeping the golf course green.

      The bottom line: If you want a phone line extended out into the boonies, maybe you should propose building some $1M homes and give generously to the local politicians. Water and sewer lines are freebies.

  6. Re:Not surprising.-- Universal Service Fee by deck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Universal Service Fee (i.e. Tax) that is on everyone's phone bill is supposed to cover the cost of doing this. Unfortunately, it has become just added profit as the phone companies (Verizon, AT&T, etc.) do not use it to subsidize rural phone service. If this was a Libertarian Paradise, you probably would pay $500 dollars a month for landline service while someone in a densely populated urban area would pay $5 a month. Cell phone service would have a greater disparity in price.

  7. T-Mobile by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

    Apparently going through the FCC is the only way to get anyone to fix anything.

    https://support.t-mobile.com/t...

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  8. Verizon isn't alone by deck · · Score: 4, Informative

    I live in an area that is serviced by AT&T (Southwestern Bell doing business as). This is a rural area in North Texas near Fort Worth that has smaller holdings counted in acres or tens of acres and not generally hundreds of acres. This location is maybe 12 miles from the central office that services my land lines. Almost every time there are heavy rains or even ice or snow (remember, Texas) the phone lines go down. It takes nearly a week to get them repaired. But come the next weather event down they go. And cell phone service is not good. I can walk ten feet within my house and lose the connection with the cell tower.

    AT&T expressed their disdain of Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS) (analog telephone over copper pairs) about 4 years ago when they filed a request for rule making with the FCC to outlaw POTS. They compared POTS to analog television and used the reasoning that if the FCC could force the switch to digital television and relegate analog television to the garbage bin of history, the FCC could do the same for POTS. I believe it was discussed here on Slashdot. This must have been their marketing department because AT&T didn't realize the technical impact this could have in densely populated areas that have extremely high telephone usage such as skyscrapers with a few thousand people that were constantly on the phone for business. It may be that VOIP would negate the problem but they actually focused on cell phone usage.

    The big telephone companies keep dreaming of having everything go over to cell or other services that have MUCH higher profit margins than POTS. If the biggies make the service bad enough they hope they can drive people off of it.

  9. Traffic pumping by jtara · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How much of this, though, is due to abusive practices like traffic pumping?

    There were hearings and talk of reform. Did anything every happen?

    Is it possible that the reasons that long-distance calls (in or out) don't complete because they've been too greedy abusively-routing 900-calls and the like through these areas?

  10. Profit by Princeofcups · · Score: 2

    Save/make $10 million.
    Pay $5 million fine.
    $5 million profit.

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  11. choosing winners and losers by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

    "They cause rural businesses to lose customers"

    This is the argument I don't hear enough about network neutrality. If everyone's one traffic isn't treated with some equality then we essentially let telco companies choose the winners and losers in a whole lot of businesses, not just Internet related businesses. If companies want monopoly protects they should be hit and hit hard when they refuse to treat rural or any other customers the same. Verizon shouldn't only be fined, the should lose their entire business in these areas.

  12. Re:Free market! by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

    Well, perhaps they will finally learn that Adam Smith was talking about trade between equals. When one side has a massive amount of power then trade stops becoming so free.