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Apple Posts $18B Quarterly Profit, the Highest By Any Company, Ever

jmcbain writes: Yesterday, Apple reported its financial results for the quarter ending December 27, 2014. The company posted $18 billion in profit (on $74 billion in revenue), the largest quarterly profit by any company, ever. The previous record was $16 billion by Russia's Gazprom (the largest natural gas extractor in the world) in 2011. Apple sold 74.5 million iPhones last quarter, along with 5.5 million Macs and 21.4 million iPads.

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  1. Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder which country Apple are paying tax on that profit?

    Oh wait, they are based in Ireland and pay no tax at all. Silly me.

    1. Re:Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you have a partially valid point, however apple don't pay anyone any tax (at least nothing of significance), e.g you have countries like Australia where apple did 27 billion in revenue and paid tax of less than 200 million, this is repeated in countries all around the world. china is probably doing the best out of them compared to most countries as at least they get a shit load of low paid jobs from putting there shit together. It is a result of poor ethics from apple and broken tax laws.

    2. Re:Tax by ihtoit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      because it trades on the US market, mayhap?

      Simple rule: if you trade on the floor, you pay the fucking rent.

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    3. Re:Tax by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Company tax is not based on revenue, it is based on profits.

      That's only income tax. There are sales taxes, VAT, tariffs, use taxes, port fees, gas taxes, etc.

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    4. Re:Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      We have been talking about tax on a profit - corporation tax.

      Apple staff in the US have to pay income tax. Did anyone imagine that the IRS don't tax Apple employees? Is Apple going to start boasting that "our US-based employees pay income tax"?

      Their accounts say that they are paying $13.973 BIllion - under "Provision for Income Taxes".

    5. Re:Tax by ganjadude · · Score: 1, Insightful

      you are leaving out the deductions which after applied mean someone who makes 18 grand a year is not paying taxes (as someone who made slightly over 18K last year will attest. thankfully got back on my feet though)

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    6. Re:Tax by west · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We don't even have to debate the evilness of walled gardens

      Evilness? The walled garden is the *reason* I buy Apple products. The only annoying thing is that they don't set the walls highs enough. If they would charge a few hundred dollars per app submitted, they could (1) examine apps more closely, (2) do it faster, and (3) eliminate the millions upon millions of garbage apps that clutter the app store with the expectation it might make a few bucks.

      Sure, there exists the theoretical possibility that a good app might not get submitted, but the reality is that if you don't believe in your app enough to put a few hundred dollars behind it (or find anyone else to), it's unlikely to be a very good app. Almost all successful apps have a minimum of $50-100K behind them already.

      Some modest barriers to entry are a *good* thing for the vast majority of consumers. And for those who really, really want the choice? They've got a jillion Android phones to choose from. No one is forced into the walled garden.

  2. Re:18B on 75B by Ixokai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who runs on 4% margins that has any choice at all in it? There's nothing more moral or good business about razor thin margins. If you run at single digit margins you have absolutely no ability to invest in development.

    Yes, they could still make more profit then anyone else -- because everyone else is putting out crap that isn't profitable, sustainable or with the economics of scale factoring into production.

    That last bit is important. Samsung can match it, but they do so by making many products and they're suffering a lot lately on making money via that strategy. They're keeping share, absolutely, but making money is waning.

    Apple margins are high relative to its bottom-feeding competitors partly because they are leveraging scale. They make very big deals over long terms, invest in suppliers and buy out supplies for years (Yes, at a premium rate, someone's going to mention the sapphire plant that went bust: they signed onto a deal they couldn't execute and you blame Apple? Please.)

    As to the comment on taxes, I don't know what it means but it makes me think you don't know how taxes work.

  3. Re:Good job! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It shows that by making bug-free products, offering long term support, providing great value, acting fully ethically, and listening to your customers, can make you a fair amount of money.

    Given that Apple doesn't do any of these, does that mean that you consider their profits unfair?

  4. And all this without Jobs by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It just goes to prove no one is irreplaceable; not even Jobs.

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  5. Re: 18B on 75B by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is 24%. That means your device could be 20% cheaper and they would STILL make more money then anybody else in percentage per product in the electronics world.
    So instead of 500USD for the Ipad2, you could be paying 400USD and they would still make money.
    And some people don't think Apple is overpriced.

    I am sure some people think software developers are overpriced, but I am not going to walk into my managers office and tell him to give me a pay cut.

  6. Re: to apple fan boys by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Guess, how they are most profitable? Obviously nothing to do with overcharging you, NOHOHO, NOT AT ALL.

    If they were "overcharging", they wouldn't be selling as many. Amazing how the free market works isn't it?

  7. Re: to apple fan boys by Karlt1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So half of all smart phone buyers in the US constitute a "small niche"?

  8. Slave Labour is certainly profitable by taylorius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $18 billion profit, but they can't afford to make their phones in a country with decent labour laws. Nope, can't do it. The numbers just don't add up I tell you. Apple are the apotheosis of psychopathic corporate greed, at the expense of any human decency.

    1. Re:Slave Labour is certainly profitable by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What electronic products do you use that are made in a country with decent labor laws? And what about your clothes and shoes?

      Are you setting a positive example for this world like you promised?

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    2. Re:Slave Labour is certainly profitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was going to say that the Mac Pro is manufactured in the US, but then I saw that you asked for decent labor laws.

  9. Re:inflation embiggens numbers by Barsteward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    yeah, and i wonder just how much tax they will avoid paying

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  10. Re:18B on 75B by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not necessarily. The market rewards companies that demonstrate an ability to outproduce or out-innovate their competitors. I'm not arguing that's necessarily the case with Apple, but a company that reaps large profits doesn't necessarily indicate a broken system.

    In my opinion, the best indication of a broken market is a company whose customers hate their guts yet still manage to reap huge profits. That's an indication that legitimate competitors are somehow being kept out of the market, either because of leverage/buyouts, artificial monopolies, cartels, or whatever. Capitalism is a pretty decent economic system compared to the alternatives, but anyone who thinks it's infallible isn't paying attention.

    The people that buy Apple products tend to like them, enjoy using them, and regularly upgrade their products with new purchases. Whatever faults Apple has, it's hard to argue that their success is completely illegitimate.

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  11. Re: Good job! by Rational · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I know the comment was meant to be sarcastic, it sort of backfired, because the reason for Apple's success is that they do all of those, *on aggregate*, to a greater extent than any other company.

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  12. Re:inflation embiggens numbers by ganjadude · · Score: 1, Insightful

    yet we never hear about how bad the "rich" apple is, yet oil companies are lambasted for their "obscene" profits. I wonder why that is???

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  13. Re:inflation embiggens numbers by ganjadude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    as much as they can, like any smart company/ person.

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  14. Re:to apple fan boys by Gumbercules!! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never understood the true-Apple-fanboi approach to these figures, which is always joy and pride, like they've somehow "won"? The amount of times I've heard people proudly tell me how Apple has the highest profit margin on their phones - a phone which the person who is telling me this is holding - truly makes me shake my head. I can't think of many other scenarios where people are proud that they paid more for their device and the people who sold it to them paid less to make it.

    When did "I win because I got ripped off the most!" become a sane argument?? By all means, be happy the company is stable and will stick around to make more devices for you or will money to invest in future devices but for goodness sakes, people, stop being proud that you're being ripped off!?

  15. use it to fix itunes by jcgam69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just wish Apple would use a small fraction of that profit to rewrite itunes, from scratch.