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DEA Planned To Monitor Cars Parked At Gun Shows Using License Plate Readers

HughPickens.com writes According to a newly disclosed DEA email obtained by the ACLU through the Freedom of Information Act, the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives collaborated on plans to monitor gun show attendees using automatic license plate readers. Responding to inquiries about the document, the DEA said that the monitoring of gun shows was merely a proposal and was never implemented. "The proposal in the email was only a suggestion. It was never authorized by DEA, and the idea under discussion in the email was never launched,'' says DEA administrator Michele Leonhart.

According to the Wall Street Journal the proposal shows the challenges and risks facing the U.S. as it looks to new, potentially intrusive surveillance technology to help stop criminals. Many of the government's recent efforts have scooped up data from innocent Americans, as well as those suspected of crimes, creating records that lawmakers and others say raise privacy concerns. "Automatic license plate readers must not be used to collect information on lawful activity — whether it be peacefully assembling for lawful purposes, or driving on the nation's highways," says the ACLU. "Without strong regulations and greater transparency, this new technology will only increase the threat of illegitimate government surveillance." National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam says the NRA is "looking into this to see if gun owners were improperly targeted, and has no further comment until we have all the facts."

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  1. not New news by turkeydance · · Score: 1, Interesting

    the DEA and IRS have been monitoring gun shows, gun ranges, gun any-damn-thing since Obama was elected. i expect this post qualifies as well.

  2. The sad part? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This story will probably get more attention than the CIA torture report. More attention than the NSA surveillance scandal. More attention than just about anything that actually _needs_ attention. Why? Gun nuts are paranoid as hell, that's why. Despite having the security of a firearm they're terrified that the government is going to sweep in and take them away for...what reason again? If anything it's in the US government's best interests for their citizens to be shooting each other dead, saves them ammunition on those shiny new NYPD vehicles with FUCKING MACHINE GUN TURRETS. There is absolutely no practical reason that anyone in the NYPD needs an armoured vehicle with a machine gun turret. Tihs is supposedly to help "fight" terror instead of "create" terror. Oh, of course they won't use them against protestors. Of course they won't.

    Sometimes I think Americans are just going to sit on their asses and take all of this bullshit until the government actually does pull a Tiannamen Square on some protest, at which point the guns will finally be aimed at the people who truly deserve to have their heads blown off. Politicians.

    1. Re:The sad part? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Interesting

      SCOTUS also said owning slaves was ok. just because SCOTUS says something does not make it constitutional

      Huh?

      Umm, when SCOTUS said owning slaves was Constitutional, it WAS clearly constitutional. You know, they actually added a Constitutional amendment to outlaw slavery (the 13th) about 75 years after the Constitution first came into effect. Until then, it definitely was constitutional and was explicitly part of the negotiations that went into drafting the original Constitution.

    2. Re:The sad part? by ganjadude · · Score: 1, Interesting

      you ARE aware that alot of the guns rights activists in the 60s were more about granting gun ownership for black folk right? A lot of "gun rights" were instituted to HELP groups like the black panthers in a time of really bad racism. But of course you dont know that.and frankly I dont care about what reagan did. I didnt like him anymore than I liked bush or obama

      Long story short, Take your insults and shove um where the sun dont shine. Aducate yourself a little better

      or to put it in terms a liberal would understand

      Shouldnt black folk be allowed to defend themselves from the racists?? shouldnt women be able to defend themselves from their abusers???

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  3. sensationalist headline by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Interesting

    so some random brain-fart email was sent, never acted upon, and this gets blown up into "planned to track owners"

    If someone wants to have a serious discussion of the decades of problems the DEA has caused legitimate gun owners, and how they've armed murderers and cartel thugs, let's have a different article series. But I doubt anything would be approved as "story" on this site, it's fading into a place where people just cut and paste "news" from other sites instead of writing original material with sources. Just clickbait tabloid trash site now, how sad.

  4. Re:It's about entitlement for no work not guns by Loki_1929 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would it blow your mind to know that current US Federal law defines the militia as "all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard"?

    Seriously, it's 10 U.S. Code 311 - Militia: composition and classes

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  5. Re:planned? by P3r1$c0p3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Tax payer : "What did I do, officer?" HLS Secret Police :"We are not sure yet, but you can wait here in jail until we decide what it is you are guilty of. Looks like you attended a gun show in 2010. Our plate scanner caught your car there. Care to explain?" Tax Payer : "I used to always go to gun shows." HLS Secret Police : "Johnson! Did you get that on tape?!" Johnson : "Of course, sir. We record everything ubiquitously everywhere." HLS Secret Police "Ha ha ha! send it to the secret prosecutor at the secret court! You will pay for this, John Q Taxpayer!" Taxpayer "You still have not charged me with anything." HSL Secret Police "Oh, you have been charged. I just can't tell you with what because it is classified! We are keeping you safe. You are welcome."