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Verizon Dropping Data Rates, But Current Customers Have To Call

New submitter executioner writes with this news from Consumerist: In spite of Verizon Wireless' recent boasts that it's 'a leader, not a follower,' a new announcement from the nation's biggest wireless company shows that Big V is indeed following the competition down the path of charging customers less for their data plans. However, current Verizon subscribers will need to let the company know they want to save money (or get more data). It's a little confusing, so stick with us for a moment. Verizon MORE Everything customers who currently have monthly data allotments of 1GB, 2GB, 3GB, or 4GB will have an option on how they want to save.They can either get more data for their money by getting 1GB of additional data per month for no extra charge OR they can have their bill reduced by $10/month.So someone with a 2GB plan is currently paying $50/month. If they take the free data option, that goes to 3GB for the same price. Or they can elect to stick with the 2GB and their data bill drops to $40/month.

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  1. Okay, so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I live in a different country, and when I lived in the US, I used T-Mobile, but still that brief description was more information than I would need if I were a Verizon customer. So... why is this here?

    1. Re:Okay, so? by monkeyzoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's a damn good point. And to think my submission on backyard solar powered nuclear fusion was rejected!

    2. Re:Okay, so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solar and nucular companies probably have sensibilities that would be offended if they openly treated a highly technical audience in a "libertine" fashion. You may click to disable advertising, or you can vote this pathetic article down.
        Either way, you're stuck with Alcee Hastings, (just to keep things in perspective).

    3. Re:Okay, so? by bjwest · · Score: 2

      ... So... why is this here?

      Because /. isn't dedicated to you or any specific individual. Perhaps you should publish your own blog, dedicated solely to your needs, desires and interests and be the only subscriber. That way, you'll be on a site that is.

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    4. Re:Okay, so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know... TFS suggests that this is a complicated subject and that it will be difficult to follow. If I was wrong, I would've expected similar comments posted, but instead everyone is just complaining about the price or bandwidth cap in general. Which is now better than it used to be. Not to mention the rest of TFA is just TFS, plus more Verizon information. We used to call these Slashvertisements....

    5. Re:Okay, so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a damn good point. And to think my submission on backyard solar powered nuclear fusion was rejected!

      Ok i see splapshod want to declare war on me right let the fun begin yankee tankieee wankers ... :-) .....

  2. Still sucks by monkeyzoo · · Score: 2

    And in France they have €20/month for unlimited calling, unlimited text, and 3GB of 4G data. We are getting RIPPED OFF here in the USA.

    1. Re:Still sucks by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      And we're getting even more ripped off, up north.

    2. Re:Still sucks by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      That is REALLY REALLY cheap! I am on unlimited calls, texts, and 4 Gig of data for $100 / month with Telstra in Australia. I could go a cheaper plan with optus or virgin but their coverage is no where near as good outside of the main cities.

    3. Re:Still sucks by houghi · · Score: 1

      That is because France has taxes, only work 35 hours per week and have an enourmous amount of holidays. Oh wait.

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    4. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with WIND in Canada. 40 bucks for unlimited, text, calling and data, no contract.

      Coverage is admittedly shitty outside of cities, but they cover the GTA, and surrounding areas pretty well, and that's where I'm at so it works for me.

    5. Re:Still sucks by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Cheap?

      Check this offer and then tell me that's cheap.
      (page in Romanian, use Google Translate, works well enough)
      http://www.rcs-rds.ro/telefoni...

      Those who for some reason don't want to click the link can read the translation below:

      Best Mobile Digi Unlimited

      Benefits:

      Unlimited calls to any national network, fixed or mobile
      UNLIMITED international calls to fixed networks in major EU, US, Canada and China and international calls 3000 minutes to the main mobile networks in the US, Canada, China and the EU *
      unlimited mobile internet (speeds up to 21.6 Mbps up to 5 GB traffic) FINAL PRICE MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION (VAT included), after discounts: - 5 euro, if you are subscribed to TV + net fixed; 4 euros, if you opt for more subscription * - 7 euros, if you are subscribed to TV or fixed net; 5 euros if you opt for multiple subscriptions * - 10 euros if you are not a subscriber Digi, 7 euros if you opt for multiple subscriptions *; if you port your mobile number to Digi: 8 euro for a subscription, 6 euro for two subscriptions * Up to a maximum of four subscriptions. The subscription will be added to your shopping cart at list price, the discount will apply to the contract signing, based on criteria above.

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    6. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's as close as matters to T-Mobile's 4 lines (2.5 Gigs per line) for $100.

    7. Re:Still sucks by monkeyzoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh shit, I forgot the best part. That €20 UNLIMITED CALLING includes calls to landlines in OVER 100 COUNTRIES in the world (basically everywhere you would ever call, and then ten times that moreover), and to landlines/mobiles in the USA and Canada.

      Oh, and it's MONTH-TO-MONTH!!!

      Oh, and it includes roaming in 35 countries.

      I've got to give it to the French in this race.

      Then again, large parts of downtown Paris are on 1MB ADSL, sooooo, there's that. Hello 1999 all over again.

    8. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had 100 MB fiber-to-the-home for €50/month in Milan, Italy FIVE YEARS AGO!
      The USA has LOST.

    9. Re:Still sucks by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      Yes but Romania's PPP is only 40% of the Euro average. And France sits well above the Euro average. This means that every single hour of labour is significantly cheaper.

      On top of that the Romanian Government is currently subsidising telecoms in order to get closer to universal access. Not really an apple to apple comparison.

    10. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good deal. If you need four lines....

    11. Re:Still sucks by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      That is the penalty for many of the less expensive plans: less coverage, fewer roaming agreements, and often, fewer phone upgrade options. Whether or not a bargain plan is right for you depends largely on how and where you will be using your cellular phone/pocket computer.

      The plan discount or upgrade offered with this Verizon program referenced in TFS is unusual in that it offers customers who are already members a discount, too.

      Whether we're talking about my cable provider, phone service company, or even our electricity company, all the great deals are typically for new clientele only...I can normally only benefit from the bulk of them by continually switching providers. This is a refreshing change that I hope becomes trendy.

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    12. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And free health care, and 12 months of maternity leave, and family sick leave, and sabbaticals, and 2 ski weeks.
      Of course, you have to speak with that outrageous accent.

    13. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we're getting even more ripped off, up north.

      Yep. I am paying CAD100.00 for unlimited calling anywhere in Canada at any time which I rarely use and 5GB 4G data. Wireless carriers realise voice calls are dying so they are essentially tossing them into the package for "free" while charging a super-premium for data service.

    14. Re:Still sucks by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Well with T-Mobile I get this:

      8 lines, fully unlimited with 2.5gb of 4G data (after that it's just 2.5g data, unlimited.)

      My total bill never varies from $130 a month, after taxes and my 15% veteran discount, which comes out to about $16.25 per line. We all split the bill.

      Converting that to Euro's, I pay exactly €14.17 per month. Plus I get to roam anywhere on the continent for free, and if I roam overseas I get free data as well. And unlimited music streaming.

      I don't feel very ripped off.

    15. Re:Still sucks by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but T-Mobile is the exception and not the rule among American carriers, and if they manage to keep hanging onto existence by the skin of their teeth, then you'll still have a good deal. If not, well, I'll be sad too. T-Mobile has the best offering, but their network is too crap (at least the last time I tried it a few years ago). I would guess that's why no one else has felt compelled to match their plans.

    16. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the record, comparing an 8-line package with a veteran discount to a single line no-contract deal isn't exactly apples to apples

    17. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Lady France may be a disease ridden, fat, ugly, overpriced whore, but at least she has nice tits."

    18. Re:Still sucks by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      if they manage to keep hanging onto existence by the skin of their teeth

      I don't think that is a fair assessment. As of the last few quarters, T-Mobile is now the fastest growing carrier, and in spite of VERY heavy investment into their infrastructure, they're only operating at a small loss. A company with as much growth as them can continue operating that way for a very long time. Just to put things into perspective, Amazon operates at an even bigger loss. (Amazon lost 126 million last quarter, T-Mobile lost 92 million)

      I tend to agree with John Legere's assessment over Deutch Telekom's.

      T-Mobile has the best offering, but their network is too crap

      Crap compared to what? Remember T-Mobile spans across most of the US. Meanwhile France is 25% smaller than Texas. T-mobile is also (as of June 2014) the fastest wireless data carrier in the US. The only thing T-Mobile can't offer at present is rural coverage in a lot of places that Verizon offers, but they're being very aggressive about expanding into those areas.

      This also says a lot considering the fact that only 2 years ago T-Mobile couldn't even claim 4G in most cities.

      Verizon also has seen their churn rate increase from it's really low 1.01 to 1.11, and that isn't because of AT&T or Sprint.

    19. Re:Still sucks by stoborrobots · · Score: 1

      That's partly because T-Mobile is basically a European phone company - they're the international arm of Deutsche Telekom...

    20. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Finland, unlimited calling + texting with unlimited data @ 2G is 18 €/month. 3G is 25 €, 4G@50Mbps is 30€, 4G@100Mbps is 40€ (current deal for 4G drops the price to 25€ per month for 2 year contact).

    21. Re:Still sucks by Pi1grim · · Score: 1

      Estonia, 100MB fiber-to-home, 26 euros. 300MB for 32 euros

    22. Re:Still sucks by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      In the UK I pay €50/month for unlimited text, unlimited calling and 10GB of 4G data. For two lines. Total.

    23. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Lady France may be a disease ridden, fat, ugly, overpriced whore, but at least she has nice tits."

      Oh you mean just like all the the USA is smelly fat ugly run by a runt with a big gob fully of gobby little children ..

    24. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And massive youth unemployment, and housing shortage. It sucks big time, but you can end up with free welfare and drink alcohol in the streets.

    25. Re:Still sucks by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      Remember T-Mobile spans across most of the US. Meanwhile France is 25% smaller than Texas.

      Totally irrelevant! Area shouldn't matter to profitability; population density should. Anyway, it's not just France. Others have followed my post with their rates from UK, Finland, Romania, etc that are also way cheaper than in the USA.

      Anyhow, you've misconstrued my meaning. I LIKE T-MOBILE!, as I said. I've just never been able to get good network coverage at home or while traveling. I'm glad to hear they're growing strongly, because the death knells a while back and when AT&T was going to swallow them were very upsetting.

    26. Re:Still sucks by war4peace · · Score: 1

      On top of that the Romanian Government is currently subsidising telecoms in order to get closer to universal access. Not really an apple to apple comparison.

      No, it's not. These are private operators and those are real costs.

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    27. Re:Still sucks by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Area shouldn't matter to profitability; population density should.

      I'm not sure what point you're trying to reach then. T-Mobile has to serve a much wider area at a much lower population density. If anything it should be considerably easier for a European carrier to drive a larger profit off of a smaller price, especially considering that they don't have to bother negotiating with other carriers for roaming agreements.

    28. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm paying $35/month for no-contract, unlimited calls/texts, 2.5GB LTE data. It's Cricket, so AT&T's network, though the LTE speeds are capped; can't say I've noticed. If you're paying $50 a month for just data then yes, I think you're getting ripped off, but there are options.
      Also, a lot of people overlook the fact that in Europe, if you call a cellphone from a landline you're going to be paying something $.25 a minute, which does act as a subsidy for the phone owner, who doesn't have to pay for incoming minutes.

    29. Re:Still sucks by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Unlike all the Billions and Billions of dollars US tax payers have subsidized telecoms....you're right the US tax payer has given more in subsidies....

    30. Re:Still sucks by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It could have to do with the expense of putting towers up all over the place. France doesn't exactly have the wide open spaces we have in the US, or the high population density of US cities.

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    31. Re:Still sucks by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      In the US, you could always use Cricket...it runs on Verizon's network, so not much different if you want budget.

      https://www.cricketwireless.co...

      it looks like $60 for 20GB, I don't know what other plans they have though to compare directly with your plan.

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    32. Re:Still sucks by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      hon hon hon

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    33. Re:Still sucks by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I pay like $10 for 2GB of bandwidth (I think they increased it), and I get rollover data.

    34. Re: Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One thing many of us Americans cleverly forget is that we also pay a fraction of what they pay for their phones in Europe. Everyone buys full retail so the cell phone companies don't have to eat a device deficit.... Thereforetheir cost of operation is less meaning lower prices.

    35. Re:Still sucks by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      2.5gb of 4G data

      FYI, that's a promotion and it will reset to 1GB of 4G data in January 2016.

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    36. Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in France they have €20/month for unlimited calling, unlimited text, and 3GB of 4G data. We are getting RIPPED OFF here in the USA.

      If you thought it was a rip-off, then why did you sign the contract?

    37. Re: Still sucks by unami · · Score: 1

      austria - 75Mb down/ 7.5 up for 25,90 euros. could be worse...

    38. Re:Still sucks by dl_sledding · · Score: 1

      And that matters, how, to someone in Australia?

    39. Re:Still sucks by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      And in France they have €20/month for unlimited calling, unlimited text, and 3GB of 4G data. We are getting RIPPED OFF here in the USA.

      For $30/mo I have nation wide calling and 6 gigs of data per month. And I feel we are getting ripped off. (I had to already own the phone or purchase one of the provider's new phones)

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    40. Re:Still sucks by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      And in France they have €20/month for unlimited calling, unlimited text, and 3GB of 4G data. We are getting RIPPED OFF here in the USA.

      For $30/mo I have nation wide calling and 6 gigs of data per month. And I feel we are getting ripped off. (I had to already own the phone or purchase one of the provider's new phones)

      Forgot, roaming was extra. But for $10.00, I get North America wide monthly roaming, and for double that amount, Outside North America to some other countries (Europe, etc.) Mostly though, I use wifi and a wifi based phone application when roaming.

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    41. Re: Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is just the data, phone, and text cost another 40-100 depending on plan.

  3. Isn't that normal practice? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

    My ISP and Telco have increased my data allowance multiple times over the years. I just get a letter / email / sms saying congrats your plan now has 33% more data!

    If I wanted to go to a cheaper plan I would call them.

    I know it is cool to hate on the major telcos but isn't being given more for exactly the same cost a good thing? Or am I totally missing something?

    1. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you read TFA (as if), you'd see that unless you contact Verizon you get nothing at all. Only if you call up and ask do you get to pick between more data or less cost.

    2. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      BUT ITS SLASHDOT! Who reads TFA?!?!?!?!

      But if that is the case that is a bit dodge. Not uncommon but yeah dodge. Also if that is the case, summary writing fail as I read that as you got the data increase by default.

    3. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by war4peace · · Score: 0

      It's not dodgy, it's fear of being sued in a sue-friendly country.
      If they offer you more for the same price by default, some retard would sue because they don't want that option.
      If they keep the same offer but reduce the price by default, some retard would sue because they don't want that option.
      If they do as they are doing, Slashdot people would call that dodgy and some retard would sue them anyway, just because.

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    4. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by chipschap · · Score: 1

      Nothing new about "you have to call." For my home internet I'm on Hawaiian telcom. When I signed up they gave me a "guaranteed rate for life." What they meant was that it was guaranteed not to drop when they lowered their prices.

    5. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      What part of "However, current Verizon subscribers will need to let the company know they want to save money (or get more data)." did you not understand? It was in the summary. Read before posting.

    6. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by tompaulco · · Score: 2

      If you read TFA (as if), you'd see that unless you contact Verizon you get nothing at all. Only if you call up and ask do you get to pick between more data or less cost.

      I don't trust Verizon any farther than I can throw them. SOMETHING is changing in their favor and this article doesn't mention what it is, but it is there, I guarantee you.
      I used to have unlimited data. I am not even a heavy user of data. I currently use less than 500MB per month, but they managed me to swindle me out of the unlimited data plan by offering something else that appeared to be cheaper at first, but ended up being about the same for a 1 GB plan as what I previously paid for unlimited. Now, you might say I haven't lost anything since I don't use that much data anyway, but I had the freedom to use unlimited if I wanted or needed to.
      Here is a breakdown of the plan I am on:
      Unlimited talk and text: $40
      My Smartphone: $40 (advertised rate of $20)
      My wife's Smartphone: $40 (advertised rate of $20)
      My kid's regular phone: $30 (advertised rate of $10)
      If you add up the plan pricing according to their advertising, I should be paying $90 a month. If you add it up according to what is on the bill, I should be paying $150. I am actually paying about $168.
      The plan I am on currently on their website advertises $145 for 4 lines and 8 GBs. I have three lines and 1 GB and it is $168.

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    7. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As an Verizon customer, I received a text from Verizon saying "you have a 6GB a month plan, respond with yes to upgrade to 10GB for no additional charge". I wonder if this is another price drop to the one that happened to me 3 months ago. The text could have been related to me buying a tablet and changing my plan however, and nothing to do with this particular change.

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    8. Re:Isn't that normal practice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it is cool to hate on the major telcos but isn't being given more for exactly the same cost a good thing?

      Not always. I would rather they assume I want to pay less, than assume I need more data.

  4. Data by the GIG still? by Lodlaiden · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know y'all knock T-Mobile for the pink, but for 5+ years, I've been happy with "unlimited everything".

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    1. Re:Data by the GIG still? by monkeyzoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      And the only major US carrier that will sell you a SIM card so you can B.Y.O.D.!!!

    2. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I bought my own device to AT&T.

    3. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto, b.y.o.d AND b.y.o.t on AT&T.

    4. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And 2G speeds after the first 2Gigs. It's fantastic!

    5. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I BMOD to Verizon.

    6. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They gave you a SIM card?

    7. Re:Data by the GIG still? by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      To the BYOD repliers... did Verizon and AT&T give you a SIM card, or did they let you bring another CDMA phone?

    8. Re:Data by the GIG still? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      AT&T is not CDMA. Only Verizon and Sprint are.

    9. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish they would be required to market this as sustained data for the month.
      2GB works out to about 6473 bits/second sustained for a month.
      That would let people know how ridiculously small the data plans are.

      I've pulled 10GB in a single day.

    10. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For $30.00 a month with no $BS_CHARGES piled on, T-Mobile provides 100 minutes, unlimited data, throttling after 5 Gig. I use a combination of VoIP, Google Voice number and a Google Voice Location app for automated forwarding. It's an odd month when my minutes go into double digits.

    11. Re:Data by the GIG still? by antdude · · Score: 1

      My parents had to dump T-Mobile for Verizon Wireless from the move because the rural area is crappy to most carriers (Sprint, T-Mobile, etc.).

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    12. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm really amazed that mobile data is still that expensive in the US.
      You would expect that the nation that pretty much single handedly runs the internet would have cheap access to it.
      just for comparison: here in austria the most expensive All-Flat-plan costs 44.90 Euro ($51), the cheapest 10 GB/month plan is 9.90 euro (using the best network at 150 Mbit LTE).
      so why is mobile data so expensive in the US?

    13. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Krojack · · Score: 1

      And still spotty coverage. T-Mobile coverage is pretty bad where I am. My verizon works everywhere I go in my state.

    14. Re:Data by the GIG still? by Kurrelgyre · · Score: 1

      I appreciate the entusiasm, but http://www.att.com/shop/wirele...

    15. Re:Data by the GIG still? by CodeArtisan · · Score: 1

      If Austria was 2000 miles across and had 10 people towns living 300 miles apart, it would be a fair comparison. I'm no fan of the US plan structures, but geography is a limiting (and expensive) factor in the equation.

    16. Re:Data by the GIG still? by nmr_andrew · · Score: 1

      This is exactly why Verizon hangs on despite costing more, and FWIW why I use them. Their coverage is pretty much everywhere; the only places I've ever had any issue with signal are pretty fringe (i.e. various passes in the Rockies, in the basement at work surrounded by lots of metal, etc.). I suppose it all depends on what you want from your service, but if I'm going to have a mobile phone, I want it to work when I'm mobile.

  5. What? Not for Unlimited Data? by nevermore94 · · Score: 1

    Of course, they are not lowering the price of my grandfathered in Unlimited Data plan, so I guess I will just have to be happy with paying $40 a month for Unlimited Data.
    /s

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    1. Re:What? Not for Unlimited Data? by Kpt+Kill · · Score: 1

      The killer is the not having unlimited voice and texting that goes with the unlimited data. My old MO was "...from my cold dead hands..." however, given that I bought my device outright, I'm month to month, I'm getting ripped off. Its fantastic not having to think about if I should stream some video, or should I download this podcast from wifi instead of in my car... but I also can't use my phone as a phone, or text like I want... do I have enough texts? Do I have enough minutes? its a tradeoff... Maybe I can deal w/ 8GB a month...

    2. Re:What? Not for Unlimited Data? by nevermore94 · · Score: 1

      True, I only have 700 minutes (but I hardly come close to using them), but I do have unlimited Texting as well.

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    3. Re:What? Not for Unlimited Data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      to hell with texting it is too expensive. most people have smartphones now, what does texting give you that you can't get through email on a smartphone?

  6. My plan went up for new subscribers... by SSonnentag · · Score: 5, Informative

    My 10GB shared plan currently costs $80/month. The new rate jumps up to $100 for the same 10GB. In order to get any cheaper than my current $80 I would need to drop down to 6GB for $70. Not a bargain of an idea in my opinion.

    1. Re:My plan went up for new subscribers... by Rosyna · · Score: 1

      Oddly, the 10GB plan is the only one that went up in price (and by $20, no less). There's a chart of all the new prices.

    2. Re:My plan went up for new subscribers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a similar problem. had 2 GB of data, then added a second line, later got an extra GB (twice) added to 4 GB, and then in January they doubled it to 8 GB, for the same rate I was paying before. I looked at reducing that to like 6 GB, but it would be more money to do that. So I see little reason to change the plan at this point, Although I am overpaying for the phone usage I do get. We hardly use 1000 Minutes in cell coverage a month, and almost no texts right now. (That will change when i add kiddos though.) However, we still have an incoming land line.

  7. wow $10 less than I pay in the US by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Wow, that's $10 less than I pay in the US. (Sprint network via their Boost Mobile brand).

    If you're paying twice as much for the same service under the Sprint brand, it may be because you effectively choose to get a 30% interest loan to buy an $800 phone, rather the $129 quad-core you could afford without borrowing from Sprint at ridiculous interest rates.

    1. Re:wow $10 less than I pay in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Uhm what? It's because you get ZERO roaming of any kind on Boost Mobile, whereas with Sprint you benefit from the various roaming agreements.

    2. Re:wow $10 less than I pay in the US by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      And I should mention that the €20 plan from Free Mobile in France includes 35 days a year of travel in 15 or so countries. That means unlimited calls/texts within those countries or to France plus the same data quota.

  8. Verizon isn't waiting for you to call ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I logged into my account on their website, I was prompted with an option to save money:

    http://imgshare.in/Nwm9GI

    1. Re:Verizon isn't waiting for you to call ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course you know you just restarted the contract clock, right?

    2. Re:Verizon isn't waiting for you to call ... by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 2

      Verizon does not start a contract when you change your plan unless you are changing to some promotional loyalty plan. The More Everything plans are normal plans. So no contract changes at all. Sorry.

      Source: I work for Verizon Wireless.

    3. Re:Verizon isn't waiting for you to call ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course you know you just restarted the contract clock, right?

      Or you can read it, and it says clearly "no strings attached and no contract extensions" ... talking to them on the phone netted me an additional $23 in savings by adjusting the plan. Contracts are on individual lines - not the plan itself - the contract just states you have to carry a plan of X value or higher. We spend considerably more than their minimum with 6 phone lines.

    4. Re:Verizon isn't waiting for you to call ... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I'm betting that this would be 1GB and up? I have kept my data cap to the minumum - 250MB, since I normally don't use my phone's internet capabilities in the absence of Wi-Fi

  9. Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You have to opt-in to any plan changes, that's a LEGAL requirement. They can't change plans on you unless the change was a mistake.

    1. Re:Required by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 1

      There was a case early last year when More Everything customers on a 1Gb plan were bumped up to a 2Gb plan at the same cost when another round of price cutting came through. No consent needed.

      Source: I work for Verizon Wireless.

    2. Re:Required by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      So they will make it so your bill is lowered only if you call in. Isn't that nice? lol.

  10. Just do Unlimited (flat-rate) data already. by sethstorm · · Score: 2

    Metering data is something of a 90's era holdback that needs to DIAF.

    Then again, Verizon's the same carrier that had to be dragged out of the BREW phone era.

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  11. Google Voice or some sort of VoIP gateway. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Just have it all go across as data and use the voice line sparingly.

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  12. Scandinavian berk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My provider has no data caps (unless using a prepaid card) and unlimited calls + messages + 21Mb 3G internet is 20€/month, the same with 150Mb 4G is 25€. I don't make many regular calls per day nor do I watch youtube videos so I'm paying 10€/month for a slower 2Mb 3G connection - no caps!

  13. They don't screw you on phone pricing either by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Most carriers the cost of a phone is rolled in to your plan. So you keep a phone longer than the 2 year contract, well then that does you no good. Tmobile charges you only if you have a phone payment plan (interest free) if you BYOD or pay off the phone, your cost goes down.

    Or, on the flipside if you want a new toy all the time they have a plan that adds $10/month, but lets you trade in your phone every 6 months for a new one. You end up paying a lot monthly (cost of the phone payment + $10) but you can get shiny new toys all the time if that's your thing.

    They are the only company that aren't assholes about how they charge IMO.

    Also the thing that really sells me is that you don't need network extenders/pico cells to get coverage in hard to reach spots, the phones will do wifi calling. Works great at work since we have wifi in all our buildings, but cell service is non existent in the basements. No problem, phone just hops on to WiFi and it is good signal everywhere.

    1. Re:They don't screw you on phone pricing either by Shados · · Score: 1

      And now with the rollover data, if you're just an average user, you effectively have unlimited without needing an unlimited plan.

      I have a 3gb plan, I don't use it much, but when i go in vacation then I can go through several times that.

      Now I'll basically never run out.

  14. Not sure what's confusing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You log into your account and go to change your plan. It will tell you that your current plan doesn't exist anymore. Then you scroll down and either pick the same data allotment for $10 less or the next one for the same old price. There is nothing confusing about this. What kinda stinks, though, is that the discount isn't applied automatically and you have to make the effort and contacting VZW.

    1. Re:Not sure what's confusing by airdweller · · Score: 1

      Nope. It shows my plan "UNLIMITED TALK & TEXT 1GB $60 SMARTPHONE" and the only option is "See how The MORE Everything Plan can meet your wireless needs. Please note that if you change to The MORE Everything plan, you will be unable to return to your current plan." which is actually $10 MORE than the current plan for the same minutes/texts/data.

  15. I like my four T-Mobile lines by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

    I have to say that T-Mobile seemed the fairest provider to me because I travel overseas. Their European roaming coverage is better in a way than their US coverage. (Also I had a Galaxy I liked with a European version of Android Kit Kat and they were very cool to let me BMOD) Four lines at $100 (all in the family) Each gets 1 GB high speed, which is enough for me since my pattern puts me onto wifi a lot and I don't use the 3G that much just moving around. And there is free music streaming. (That data does not count against the 1GB) And world wide free texts (over 100 counties) Free roaming web speed data (Not 3G) in over 100 counties (This is nice. Data roaming in Europe has been notorious (it is better now). The free data in Europe has been fast enough to stream tunes and check emails and read my news feeds. As I said I travel internationally and T-Mobile is a great fit. Long Distance calls from overseas to the US are charged at 10 cents a minute with no roaming fees. Not awesome, but not like the bad old days of Euro roaming. When they gave me the run down on their roaming plan I could hardly believe it. Basically a world phone for four people for 25 bucks a month. Had to be a catch thought I. As it turns out...There is a juicy profit center for them. Long distance out of the US to overseas. I made the mistake of simply replying to a call from Kiev from DC. Ouch! I won't do that again. Ouch, ouch, ouch! Oh and I like their data rollover deal. Unused data does not evaporate at months end it rolls and accumulates. I really am a happy customer and not a shill. But this T-Mobil experience was simply good enough to pass on. Also I get a kick out of their foul-mouthed in-your-face CEO. Can't say why.

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  16. Don't fall for it by sansprivacy · · Score: 1

    This company is notorious for changing terms on customers. Not that they are the only one. If you have ever left Verizon for a reason don't let this "ambiguous bone" make you forget why.

    1. Re:Don't fall for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My mother, sister, and I all had Verizon in different states, under different last names and Verizon screwed all three of us with extra BS charges. After many years of service none of us will ever return regardless of what deals they offer.

    2. Re:Don't fall for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely agree - but damn my coverage is night and day superior to everyone else. Every, single, spot, someone has reception and another person doesn't, the answer is always "Verizon".

      Disclaimer: I often leave cities.

  17. Boost Mobile international roaming options page by raymorris · · Score: 1

    You seem to be misinformed. I haven't had any trouble in the 10 years or so I've had Boost, and their web page confirms it:

    http://www.boostmobile.com/sho...

    So now that you know the salesman lied to you and you're paying extra for nothing, are you done wasting your money? Perhaps it's worth it to you to keep paying the extra $40 / month so you can pretend you were right. No skin off my nose either way.

    1. Re:Boost Mobile international roaming options page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm on Boost and have been for a little over 4yr. Just because your can set your phone to connect to any network does not mean that if you connect to a Verizon tower it will let you make a call. Have you ever explicitly noticed you're connected to a Verizon tower during a call? I've been in many areas where when that happens it basically says 'sorry you cannot make a phone call without paying'. If theres no Sprint tower, I can't make a call, unless things all of a sudden changed recently. This is with an android phone running cm11, so no carrier limitations. I'll have to enable roaming the next time I find myself in a Sprint dead zone on a road trip.

      Can you explain the difference in these two maps?

      http://www.boostmobile.com/coverage/
      http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?

      You see at the bottom of the Sprint map it offers a 404'd page that would show what you'd see if you lacked roaming. I'm sure it would be the Boost map, if it worked.

  18. T-Mobile super-awesome, especially international by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    I moved to T-Mobile (from Verizon) late last year, it has been fantastic. A little worse coverage outside cities but I finally have a bill that is the same month to month, even when traveling internationally... ANYONE who travels internationally should without question use T-Mobile just because of the free international data aspect (it's a lower speed, you can opt to may more for a faster data rate but even the lower speed is pretty good).

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  19. They called ME by Ken+Hall · · Score: 1

    I had a call from them about three weeks ago, out of the blue. They offered to change my plan to add two more GB for $10 less/month. My big concern was that it would reset my contract date, and I'd be on the hook for another two years, but nope, nothing else changes. I'm not super-happy with their pricing, I'm paying through the nose for phones, tablets, and mobile hotspot, but at least it all works.

  20. opt-in?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wtf? does t-mobile have to run an ad campaign encouraging verizon customers to call in to verizon to save money?

  21. I didn't have to call by BobandMax · · Score: 1

    Late last year, my daughters ran our 6GB family plan to very near the limit. Just as it was about to exceed the allotment, Verizon sent me a text message offering to increase it to 10GB for no charge, which I accepted. The only problem now is that my daughters are using all of the 10GB.

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    1. Re:I didn't have to call by hambone142 · · Score: 2

      Your daughter needs a spanking.

  22. To feed your selfrighteousness duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If stories like these didn't get posted on here, then you couldn't post pretentious douchbag posts about how much better you are than us plebs. We don't care you aren't American and we don't care you use tmobile.

    1. Re:To feed your selfrighteousness duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If stories like these didn't get posted on here, then you couldn't post pretentious douchbag posts about how much better you are than us plebs. We don't care you aren't American and we don't care you use tmobile.

      Well it's pretentious douchbags like you that are being ripped off blind then you dicksplat .I pay £15.00 for 3Gb a month thats $23.00 so who is the one lacking a bit if intelligence Eh .

      It seem that over the last few years old Obarmaramadingdong has carried out the biggest and best brainfuck that has ever been in the history of the planet .. and you fall for it Oh Deary deary me ! . Douchbag .

    2. Re:To feed your selfrighteousness duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's douchebag. With an "E".

  23. Who cares about wireless, what about DSL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will Verizon boost its DSL speeds?

  24. Pre-Paid Verizon by WhatsAProGingrass · · Score: 1

    45 a month for prepaid everything except data. Put it on autopay and get 1 GB a month and unlimited everything else. 4G speeds. for $20 you get a 3 GB bridge plan that lasts up to 3 months. Do the math and you end up with something like 2 GB a month, unlim everything else for around $53 a month. That is what I do.

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  25. And what about less than 1GB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Living in a highly urban area, I have the 250MB plan and only use Wi-Fi. Haven't even used more than half of it in the 5 months I've had it. Article doesn't mention it.

  26. 1 GB of data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not trying to troll but I hardly use 250 MB of data on my android tablet. I guess people like taking selfies and uploading them to Facebook and Instagram. On a more serious note my Verizon flip phone has bad reception in residential neighborhoods. Never had a problem with using my brother's Boost Mobile USA. I guess Verizon doesn't have lots of towers in the suburbs. I actually might switch to Boost Mobile.

  27. I saved $10/mo ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... sure enough, the guy at Verizon, via chat, said the discounts just came out today.

    Thanks, /.

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  28. Tracfone by hambone142 · · Score: 1

    Tracfone uses Verizon's CDMA network where I live. TF used to have pretty crappy phones but the "bring yer own fone" program works for some phones and they just started selling a Moto-e phone which isn't that bad. Yes, it's third world cellphone but for the price, it does it for me.

  29. or... other option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can save even more, off your cell phone bill, and off aspirin and/or booze that is needed whenever you'd have to call verizon or open a verizon billing statement, by switching to a competitor like tmobile or a 3rd party reseller that uses that same verizon network.

  30. Prepaid by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    I won't hold my breath for this to be extended to us prepaid folks on Verizon, who are still treated with the same suspicion and distain as drug dealers and the homeless.

    Citation: when I make a call, I first have to listen to "The time remaining for this call is... unlimited." If it's unlimited, why bother saying anything? Oh, that's right; how else to express their derision and lack of respect for someone that deigned to opt-out of an overly-expensive multi-year contract than to make them feel like low-rent trash with every call.

  31. Consider population density (was Re:Still sucks) by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    Land area of France: 640,679 sq km
    Land area of U.S.A.: 9,826,675 sq km ---- even removing Alaska (1,717,854 sq km) one still has a much larger area to cover

    Population density of France: 119.37
    Population density of U.S.A.: 34.06

    It's not surprising that a service which requires one to build infrastructure is more expensive in the U.S. than in less densely populated countries --- and that's w/ a significant portion of the country still not having service.

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  32. I'm grandfathered in for Unlimited at $30/month... by RealGene · · Score: 1

    ...so they can kiss my bits.

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  33. They actually called me by diven · · Score: 1

    I was surprised when they called me last week offering to double my data plan from 2GB to 4GB at the same price. I asked the lady why they didn't just upgrade me automatically, but she didn't have a good answer - something nonsensical like "because that's the way we have to do it". This is the second time they have doubled my data plan, but I'm certain they didn't ask me last time - it just showed up with a notification message.

    I almost told her "No" because I was concerned it was a phishing scam - I didn't recognize the phone number, there was lots of noise in the background on the call, and the idea that they would have to call me first seemed unlikely. But it seems to have turned out OK, the extra data was added a few days later with no other effects.

  34. Ditch the High Dollar Plans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use your phone in data-only mode and ditch all the high dollar plans. Since Verizon allows moving 4G SIM card between devices, activate a SIM on an IPAD like device and then transfer that SIM into your phone. Use Google hangouts to place and receive phone calls and texts....my monthly bill is $32

  35. Verizon called me.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got an automated text message about a month ago for this, where Verizon doubled our data for free.

  36. Re:Consider population density (was Re:Still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Land area of France: 640,679 sq km
    Land area of U.S.A.: 9,826,675 sq km ---- even removing Alaska (1,717,854 sq km) one still has a much larger area to cover

    Population density of France: 119.37
    Population density of U.S.A.: 34.06

    Land area of Finland: 338,424 sq km

    Population density of Finland: 18

    We have cellphone plans with 200 minutes of talk, 200 SMS messages, and unlimited data at "up to" 50Mbps for 20euro/month. BTW, in rural Finland 400km north of Helsinki, I have unlimited (no capacity limits, no blocked ports, etc.) 100Mbps symmetric fiber to the house at home, and it costs 42euro/month.

    Blithering about population density is a poor self-justification for getting ripped off.

  37. Re:Consider population density (was Re:Still sucks by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps also showing population density differences for some major US cities vs Paris might help illustrate more of the point.

    My guess is that most US cities have much higher population densities, which also makes deploying cellular networks more expensive (more towers are needed as each tower can only support a maximum number of people).

    Each cell tower can cover 50km (at 3G, I believe 4G has a shorter range), but in cities, they turn the signal strength all the way down and overload the number of cells to cover the number of people.

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  38. wow, £15 for 3GB... by unami · · Score: 1

    that gets me unlimited 20/5 mb/s LTE where i live. it's less than half of that (9â) for 9GB at 4/2 mbits (with unlimited 64 kbit/s after those 9gb). don't you have (the service provider) Three in the UK?

  39. holy crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a 2GB/mo 450min 100 texts plan that costs me 87$ a month. Its crazy and I hate it. unfortunately I have to stick with Verizon as they are the only ones that offer decent reception in my area

  40. not necessarily accurate by jgranto · · Score: 1

    I have 4GB of shared data on a shared everything plan. I got a call from Verizon months ago informing me that the price was going down. They asked if I wanted to pay the same price and go to a bigger data plan (6GB, I think), or if I wanted to save money and keep the 4GB plan. I opted to keep the 4GB plan.

    Thus, my PERSONAL experience is that Verizon contacted me about the change.

    Disclaimer: I work for Verizon, but at the time did not get the Verizon Wireless discount. I doubt this affected my treatment, but it is possible, I suppose.

  41. Goonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see the goon squad are out in force

  42. Im in north korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here at my work camp in North Korea I can get 10Gb of data and unlimited voice and texting for $6 a month. You americans and your cell service suck! Also i get free food and clothing. and i only have to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. suck it!

  43. Re:Consider population density (was Re:Still sucks by dl_sledding · · Score: 1

    You fail in your response to address the size of the area to be covered. If the US was half the size of Texas (read: Finland... and to save you the trouble, Texas is 696,241 km), infrastructure could have been finished years ago. Size matters, in this instance, and in bed. :)