Slashdot Mirror
Sites Featuring "Terrorism" Or "Child Pornography" To Be Blocked In France
Advocatus Diaboli writes with this excerpt from Ars Technica: Now, the General Directorate of the National Police and its cybercrimes unit will be able to request that sites serving terrorist or pedophilia-related content be blocked by Internet Service Providers serving people in France and its territories. ISPs then have to comply with the request within 24 hours. ISPs will be able to request compensation from the French government for any extra costs incurred in blocking the sites. Users who navigate to a site 'to which access is prohibited will be led to an informational page from the Ministry of the Interior,' the text of the decree said. The informational page will list the grounds for the blocking as well as any possibly remedies. Every quarter, French authorities will check whether the blocked pages still contain the offending material. If not, then the authorities will contact ISPs, which will have to unblock the sites, again within 24 hours.
Still OK
Its starts with terror and kidding porn, next comes online casinos that don't have a license from the french government, follow by online BitCoin & alternate currencies web sites the government will claim are being used to avoid paying taxes ... and not to long after that any news sites or blog that the french government doesn't agree with. A very slipper slope...
Now it's time for them to spend the next ten years terrorizing themselves, while at the same time working hard to dismantle everything that a free and fair society stands for. We're honored over here in the US – imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
They seem to be the majority of IS PR
Thank you network television.
Blocking child pornography will mean that the general audience will not be aware of its existence, hence they will not put pressure on politicians to end child abuse. Blocking child porn is counter productive, that's a fact. This I say as one of the founders of www.meldpunt.org and www.inhope.org.
no, I don't have a sig
I have just witnessed Slashdot featuring right on the front page and article about *both* terrorism and child pornography!
Burn the witch!
All hope abandon ye who enter here.
I was just about to get the domains "DownWithTerrorism.com" and "EndChildPornography.org". Now what'll I do?
Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
No use to have some lower class pedophile cherry-pick the best children while his betters
have to fly to hidden resorts on largely unknown pacific islands to indulge.
before organizations like Greenpeace are on the list of sites to block?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
What about "Leftist Idiocy" or "Communism"?
Will these be blocked too?
That would mean all EU and govt. websites will be inaccessible in france.
That doesn't sound like it even has to be child pornography. If it was only child pornography they could just say that outright, but now they make a point of specifying that it is only "related" to it... And it's not even related to child pornography, it's related to pedophilia (which is a paraphilia). That could be anything.
I guess free speech is only what a certain group of people say is okay.
Why would you ban a page about a particular strategy in war? What about pages on carpet bombing, or biological warfare, or genocide, or propaganda?
Are articles about Nelson Mandela all going to be blocked? The ANC were, in strategic terms, terrorists.
They could be just be honest and say, "Pages which the government consider to be promoting our enemies in war will be blocked." Because France is all about freedom of speech, and the right to offend, and bla bla enlightenment - providing your opinions are the correct ones.
I hate Islamism as much as the next sane person, but you fight words with words, not by enforced silence.
Viva la France!
someone already wrote the handbook with step-by-step instructions and field-tested it, too.
... will also be banned...
www.nazigassings.com
The poor Jews are whining that they are going to have to 'leave Europe'... Whatever will we 'goyim' do...
Site blocking has technical issues. If you block an IP address, you are likely to take out countless unrelated sites that happen to be on the same server. If you block the domain name lookup, there's an easy workaround that anybody who wants to visit the site can use a different name server, or use other workarounds.
Bye Bye 4Chan.
... how I wish that those things only existed as sarcastic scare quotes.
Yep, that's the part the Western government is telling the people --- stick your fucking head into the fucking sand and all will be okay
Blocking sites will only motivate even more people to try to locate those sites, and in the meantime encourage the webmasters to set up even more sites with even more radical contents
Even back then, in the 1990's where websites are not that common, people had been actively exchanging information in newsgroups. With social media sites dime a dozen, how the fuck are you going to stop people from exchanging links??
The French government ought to have put more emphasis on them 'peaceful religion' people than blocking sites, but no, they choose to do this asswipingly stupid move
Fuck man, this latest action by the French government gonna backfire
If someone really wants to access that content, they will find a way.
As long as I am the one deciding which sites I don't want to access.
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
Its starts with terror and kidding porn, next comes online casinos that don't have a license from the french government, follow by online BitCoin & alternate currencies web sites the government will claim are being used to avoid paying taxes ... and not to long after that any news sites or blog that the french government doesn't agree with. A very slipper slope...
Actually it does not even need to go to such a round-about way
It can go from Terrorism/Child Porn to "dissident groups" (whatever definition TPTB wants to define as 'dissident') and from there, before you know it, they will invite the Kim's family from North Korea and the imams and mullahs from the Islamic State and from Boko Haram to advise them how to set up and run a totalitarian religious state in the former France
From Google translation of this page:
http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000030195477&dateTexte=&categorieLien=id
Notice: The decree specifies the procedure to prevent access to Internet sites inciting the commission of terrorist acts or advocating and sites distributing images and representations of minors pornographic:
This seems overly broad, but I couldn't find statute which gives a more precise definition of what the French consider porn involving minors or their representation.
First they came for the 'terrorists' and I did not speak out because am not a terrorist.
Then they came for the 'child porn' and I did not speak out because I do not like child porn.
etc...
Have gnu, will travel.
You assume (wrongly) that the French government plans to do anything. Hollande doesn't give a rats ass about fighting X or Y, he just wants to build an image other than that of a gelatinous dessert for himself. This is about looking like he's doing something, not about actually doing it.
So, what's to stop the 'National Police' from blocking any damn site they want and as for as long as they want to? I mean once the site is blocked, it's gone for at least six months and no one can SEE what's on it that whole time. And at the end of the six months - if THEY say it is so (in their sole opinion) it gets blocked another six months! Where are the 'checks and balances' here? Who oversees what sites the 'National Police' blocks? No one. This is CENSORSHIP of the Internet by the Government - pure and simple.
I wonder what is an ISP in their view. Will academic networks, which do not use the commercial ISPs, have to block too? And what about government network? At least the police needs unfiltered access.
While surely correcting the person's grammar could be called appropriate, the rest is simply ignorant rambling. French media has already been telling it's citizens to turn in anyone that did not participate in the moment of silence for Charlie Hebdo because they are terrorists. People with opinions that differ from the current political party are also being labelled terrorists.
France is seeing today the ole "if you are not with us you are against us" bullshit that led to the US adopting the Patriot act which did not harm or hinder any terrorists, it harmed and hindered Americans and created massive new government programs to increase a police state that was already growing.
America is in a police state today, the fact that people are not being shot in the street doe not change that fact. Meanwhile world wide terrorism has grown, terrorist regimes have gained more power and nearly have control of 3 countries in the Middle East. I hope the French people don't fall for the gag, but it may be too late.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Vive la liberté?
-- I have a private email server in my basement.
Realistically the first will be the pirate bay , isohunt and various other torrent site. I am pretty sure you will be able to find CP or terrorism torrent there.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
visit randi.org
You're blocking the site in the first place so you can not access it.
Every jurisdiction is different. The US has the strictest pornography laws on the planet, but does little to block web providers of same. Canada has anti-hate-speech laws that they enforce to take down content. The UK is going full-on Nazi and blocks all kinds of stuff. The Chinese block just about anything and everything their government censors don't like, and Pakistan is even worse. Then you've got Turkey's repressive and blatant blocking of people the government just flat out doesn't like.
But the US is the only jurisdiction that tries to enforce their laws beyond their boundaries instead of just blocking content by pursuing foreign website operators. Kind of flies in the face of "freedom of speech" to shovel MPAA/RIAA diatribes down the throat of the world, doesn't it? You want to host KKK diatribes, anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim claptrap, hey, knock yourself out says the USG. But interfere with out *money* and we'll come down *hard* on you.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
You stay the heck away from my wontons. There's plenty of chicken wings left, go over there before I break your chopsticks for you.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
I think this new plan won't (terrorism) cause any websites to (child porn) get accidentally shut down (terrorism) because (child terrorist) policies like this (terrorism) never cause (child porn) any disruption (terrorism) to freedom.
Signed,
(terrorist porn)
What's the horribly vague definition of child porn in this case?
Actual kids being abused?
Lolicon?
An adult dressed in a school uniform?
But how do you know she's a witch?
Why not, the government block everything else.
I'd also like to say that in consideration of some of the conversations i've had with UK police on the subject of child porn apparently its 'our' industry the computer industry thats created all the wierdoes. We've let them onto the internet.
Its the computer industry's responsibility not just the ISP's to put back the balance, the pizza argument is quite right and that you give someone half an inch they will take that and the rest of it. To avoid this situation we need to make the politicians aware that we still require freedom of speech, and freedom to view the 'right type of content' without restrictions yet we understand that there are freaks and wierdoes we don't want on the internet full stop and in certain cases companies and organisations that support these sites and the people that create them.
I suggest we create a movement to hack and take down sites that are vitrolic and save the ISP's some time by taking them and the people associated with them offline ourselves?????
Afterall we can't just let 'Anonymous', have all the fun can we?
Why don't they pursue the operators and arrest them, or at least get them shut down properly?
Who gets to decide what is terrorism and what isn't?
It's called ladiesofisis.xxx, and it features amature sex-tapes submitted by ISIS members. But since they consider 9 a decent age at which to marry a girl off, I guess I'm going to have to close up shop.