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Sites Featuring "Terrorism" Or "Child Pornography" To Be Blocked In France
Advocatus Diaboli writes with this excerpt from Ars Technica: Now, the General Directorate of the National Police and its cybercrimes unit will be able to request that sites serving terrorist or pedophilia-related content be blocked by Internet Service Providers serving people in France and its territories. ISPs then have to comply with the request within 24 hours. ISPs will be able to request compensation from the French government for any extra costs incurred in blocking the sites. Users who navigate to a site 'to which access is prohibited will be led to an informational page from the Ministry of the Interior,' the text of the decree said. The informational page will list the grounds for the blocking as well as any possibly remedies. Every quarter, French authorities will check whether the blocked pages still contain the offending material. If not, then the authorities will contact ISPs, which will have to unblock the sites, again within 24 hours.
Its starts with terror and kidding porn, next comes online casinos that don't have a license from the french government, follow by online BitCoin & alternate currencies web sites the government will claim are being used to avoid paying taxes ... and not to long after that any news sites or blog that the french government doesn't agree with. A very slipper slope...
Now it's time for them to spend the next ten years terrorizing themselves, while at the same time working hard to dismantle everything that a free and fair society stands for. We're honored over here in the US – imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Blocking child pornography will mean that the general audience will not be aware of its existence, hence they will not put pressure on politicians to end child abuse. Blocking child porn is counter productive, that's a fact. This I say as one of the founders of www.meldpunt.org and www.inhope.org.
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I have just witnessed Slashdot featuring right on the front page and article about *both* terrorism and child pornography!
Burn the witch!
All hope abandon ye who enter here.
I was just about to get the domains "DownWithTerrorism.com" and "EndChildPornography.org". Now what'll I do?
Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
No use to have some lower class pedophile cherry-pick the best children while his betters
have to fly to hidden resorts on largely unknown pacific islands to indulge.
before organizations like Greenpeace are on the list of sites to block?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
Why would you ban a page about a particular strategy in war? What about pages on carpet bombing, or biological warfare, or genocide, or propaganda?
Are articles about Nelson Mandela all going to be blocked? The ANC were, in strategic terms, terrorists.
They could be just be honest and say, "Pages which the government consider to be promoting our enemies in war will be blocked." Because France is all about freedom of speech, and the right to offend, and bla bla enlightenment - providing your opinions are the correct ones.
I hate Islamism as much as the next sane person, but you fight words with words, not by enforced silence.
Still OK
Charlie Hebdo's next cover: Bomber Mohammed thrusting a lit stick of dynamite up an altar boy's ass. The slogan DEATH TO JEWS written in wet, splattery paint across the entire thing.
Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
someone already wrote the handbook with step-by-step instructions and field-tested it, too.
Site blocking has technical issues. If you block an IP address, you are likely to take out countless unrelated sites that happen to be on the same server. If you block the domain name lookup, there's an easy workaround that anybody who wants to visit the site can use a different name server, or use other workarounds.
Do they mean actual child abuse or cartoon depictions of it?
I don't know what counts as terrorism. That seems loosely defined. If we're talking about videos of people being murdered, that's something that's stands alone as a potential to ban. But if it involves people disagreeing with what the government says, that's totally different.
From the article...
They should really go after people hosting it, not the routes to the material.
Bye Bye 4Chan.
... how I wish that those things only existed as sarcastic scare quotes.
Yep, that's the part the Western government is telling the people --- stick your fucking head into the fucking sand and all will be okay
Blocking sites will only motivate even more people to try to locate those sites, and in the meantime encourage the webmasters to set up even more sites with even more radical contents
Even back then, in the 1990's where websites are not that common, people had been actively exchanging information in newsgroups. With social media sites dime a dozen, how the fuck are you going to stop people from exchanging links??
The French government ought to have put more emphasis on them 'peaceful religion' people than blocking sites, but no, they choose to do this asswipingly stupid move
Fuck man, this latest action by the French government gonna backfire
As long as I am the one deciding which sites I don't want to access.
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
I think its outrageous that we honor them by implementing this wonton censorship. This is the sort of thing they litterally died for. That said, its not freedom of speech. Now lets look a the two organizations. One is a government cracking down on dissent, and the other is a filthy magazine known for taking pot shots at everyone. I think the two statements are not incompatible
I am Charlie
I am not the French Government
First they came for the 'terrorists' and I did not speak out because am not a terrorist.
Then they came for the 'child porn' and I did not speak out because I do not like child porn.
etc...
Have gnu, will travel.
So, what's to stop the 'National Police' from blocking any damn site they want and as for as long as they want to? I mean once the site is blocked, it's gone for at least six months and no one can SEE what's on it that whole time. And at the end of the six months - if THEY say it is so (in their sole opinion) it gets blocked another six months! Where are the 'checks and balances' here? Who oversees what sites the 'National Police' blocks? No one. This is CENSORSHIP of the Internet by the Government - pure and simple.
I wonder what is an ISP in their view. Will academic networks, which do not use the commercial ISPs, have to block too? And what about government network? At least the police needs unfiltered access.
I am not the French Government
Of course not, Louis XIV is.
While surely correcting the person's grammar could be called appropriate, the rest is simply ignorant rambling. French media has already been telling it's citizens to turn in anyone that did not participate in the moment of silence for Charlie Hebdo because they are terrorists. People with opinions that differ from the current political party are also being labelled terrorists.
France is seeing today the ole "if you are not with us you are against us" bullshit that led to the US adopting the Patriot act which did not harm or hinder any terrorists, it harmed and hindered Americans and created massive new government programs to increase a police state that was already growing.
America is in a police state today, the fact that people are not being shot in the street doe not change that fact. Meanwhile world wide terrorism has grown, terrorist regimes have gained more power and nearly have control of 3 countries in the Middle East. I hope the French people don't fall for the gag, but it may be too late.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Vive la liberté?
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I think its outrageous that we honor them by implementing this wonton censorship.
So when has the French government started suppressing Chinese dumplings?
Doesn't work as satire, as it doesn't make any point. It's just shoving random offensive images together.
Realistically the first will be the pirate bay , isohunt and various other torrent site. I am pretty sure you will be able to find CP or terrorism torrent there.
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You're blocking the site in the first place so you can not access it.
Every jurisdiction is different. The US has the strictest pornography laws on the planet, but does little to block web providers of same. Canada has anti-hate-speech laws that they enforce to take down content. The UK is going full-on Nazi and blocks all kinds of stuff. The Chinese block just about anything and everything their government censors don't like, and Pakistan is even worse. Then you've got Turkey's repressive and blatant blocking of people the government just flat out doesn't like.
But the US is the only jurisdiction that tries to enforce their laws beyond their boundaries instead of just blocking content by pursuing foreign website operators. Kind of flies in the face of "freedom of speech" to shovel MPAA/RIAA diatribes down the throat of the world, doesn't it? You want to host KKK diatribes, anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim claptrap, hey, knock yourself out says the USG. But interfere with out *money* and we'll come down *hard* on you.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
You are on the WRONG side of this issue. There is free speech and there is mocking speech. And mocking speech that mocks powerless minorities is no free speech at all. This isn't some fringe view, either.
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
-- President Obama, addressing the United Nations General Assembly
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
You stay the heck away from my wontons. There's plenty of chicken wings left, go over there before I break your chopsticks for you.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Why don't they pursue the operators and arrest them, or at least get them shut down properly?
I take it you haven't seen many of Charlie Heebdo's other cartoons.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
I don't think many people have. It wasn't a very widely-red publication.
It's called ladiesofisis.xxx, and it features amature sex-tapes submitted by ISIS members. But since they consider 9 a decent age at which to marry a girl off, I guess I'm going to have to close up shop.
There is free speech and there is mocking speech.
one and the same
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." -- President Obama, addressing the United Nations General Assembly
Says the man who's responsible for drone bombing pakistan, and funding insurgencies that lead to the rise of extremists and more death. Tell me, how many people have Charlie Hedbo killed?