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Oxford University Researchers List 12 Global Risks To Human Civilization

An anonymous reader writes The 12 greatest threats to civilization have been established by Oxford University scientists, with nuclear war and extreme climate change topping the list. Published by the Global Challenges Foundation, the report explores the 12 most likely ways civilization could end. "[This research] is about how a better understanding of the magnitude of the challenges can help the world to address the risks it faces, and can help to create a path towards more sustainable development," the study's authors said. "It is a scientific assessment about the possibility of oblivion, certainly, but even more it is a call for action based on the assumption that humanity is able to rise to challenges and turn them into opportunities."

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  1. Lists by sycodon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think Lists are the real problem.

    How many times have they found Lists in bad guy's pockets?

    1. Steal some cash
    2. Beat up old lady
    3. Shoot up a crowd.
    4. Go home and chill with some Jamaican...and not the kind with dreadlocks.

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  2. Peak oil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're now forty years after the first oil shock, and, for lack of a valid alternative, oil still runs 98% of transportation.

    How come peak oil isn't listed?

    1. Re:Peak oil? by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "We're now forty years after the first oil shock ... How come peak oil isn't listed?"

      Your post contains its own answer.

      People have been screaming "peak oil" since the late 1800s. Meanwhile, oil resource estimates just keep rising.

      It's a naive perception of how the world works that envisions that mineral resources are like some cup with some fixed, limited quantity of a resource, and once you take it all it's gone. The reality is that for every resource, there's unthinkably, mind-bogglingly vast quantities available in total. The ease of extraction generally follows an exponential curve: the easiest stuff is incredibly rare, the next easiest an order of magnitude more common, the next easiest yet another another order of magnitude, and so forth. The amount you can produce depends on your technology and your current price point. Any hike in your price point or increase in your technology consequently puts exponentially more resource onto the market. Likewise, any hike in price leads to significant increase tech research to develop new types of resources, as the potential payoff becomes massive. The exponential scaling factor of difficulty of extraction versus availability strongly discourages supply peaks.

      Now, the sort of resource availability curves aren't completely smooth - some order of magnitude transitions can be easier to achieve than others. Likewise, resource markets are always going to be inherently vulnerable to long-term price swings because you have such a long lead time between the start of new projects and the reaching of full production, and even longer time periods before the start of work on new technology and it becoming commercially viable. But regardless of the swings, the long-term picture is never one of scarcity. Making the scarcity bet is not a good idea.

      Now, minerals can and do peak - but rarely from supply peaks. Rather, demand peaks are far more common. The stone age didn't end because people ran out of stones.

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    2. Re:Peak oil? by blue+trane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The only real scarcity is our knowledge.

    3. Re:Peak oil? by itzly · · Score: 5, Informative

      We're probably already past conventional peak oil. People haven't noticed because of the glut of shale oil, but shale oil only provides a very short term solution.

    4. Re:Peak oil? by BlackPignouf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      +5 Insightful?
      No :
      -5 for bullshit, willful ignorance and not reading the article you link to :

      However, economists later showed that Ehrlich would have won in the majority of 10-year periods over the last century,[2][3] and if the wager was extended by 30 years to 2011, he would have won on four out of the five metals.[3]

      You might want to take a look at this article about the energy trap : http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the...
      You're talking about extraction price, you should talk about the energy return on investment : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...
      Once it costs more energy to retrieve oil than to leave it in the ground, we'll have a big problem, and that hasn't been mentioned one bit by TFA.

    5. Re:Peak oil? by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is, but probably not for the reasons most people think.

      The biggest issue is food security. There are probably 2 or 3 Billion people that cannot be fed unless we have oil for food production. More if you assume transportation is down, as there are concentrations of food where there are not concentrations of people.

       

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  3. I'm surprised by number 1 on the list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Systemd

    I wasn't expecting it, but now that I've thought about it more, it does make perfect sense. Systemd is perhaps the most harmful thing to have ever happened to the Linux community. It has caused more strife, discontent, anger, animosity and uncertainty than even Microsoft or SCO ever managed to cause.

    It was forced, through slimy political means, upon all Debian users. This has ruined the reliability and stability of Debian, which in turn has torn apart the Debian community.

    And since Linux is the most important thing to all of humanity, anything that harms Linux in such a manner is clearly harmful to the entire world and human race. So, yeah, it does make sense why systemd would be the number one threat.

  4. So humans are the biggest problem. by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you look at this list, the majority of these problems are man-made. Other than a super volcano and an asteroid impact, the solution seems pretty simple. We must abandon all technology and kill all but a small percentage of the population. And those that are left must live in isolated groups. That way there will not be a world wide disease outbreak.

    1. Re:So humans are the biggest problem. by invid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Growing up in the 70s and 80s I always thought that by this time I would be driving along in some barren post-apocalyptic wasteland in my cobbled-together hot-rod fighting off mohawked motorcycle gangs and saving busty babes from mutant frog-people. Instead I'm reading slashdot in my cubical as my code compiles. Sigh.

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  5. TLDR - here's the list by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Extreme climate change
    Nuclear war
    Global pandemic
    Major asteroid impact
    Super volcano
    Ecological catastrophe
    Global system catastrophe
    Synthetic biology
    Nanotechnology
    Artificial intelligence
    Future bad global governance
    Unknown consequences /karmawhoring>

    Kind of weak list, IMHO. For example, where is "overpopulation?"

    1. Re:TLDR - here's the list by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Future bad global governance

      Unlike current bad global governance, which isn't a threat at all...

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  6. Re:What solution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As opposed to our glorious private industry leaders who:
    1) Lobby the government to shut down the "competition" they claim to worship?
    2) Lobby the government to minimize the "risk" the claim to embrace?
    3) Seek rent?
    4) Leverage every technology possible to reduce their costs while keeping prices the same?

  7. Re:Islam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which ones follow the Quran?

    The "extremists" are the ones who DON'T want to kill nonbelievers.

  8. Re:Fear Mongering FTW by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Funny thing... they only mentioned the end of civilization, not the end of humanity - there is a distinction.

    Overall, there are only IMHO two that are probable (bad governance, economic/system collapse), and one distant potential (ecological destruction). Then again, it doesn't take a tinfoil-hat wearer or a bible thumper to appreciate them; they seem kind of straightforward.

    I'm sorry, but the rest are either stacked with incredible/'winning-powerball-jackpot-two-times-in-a-row' level odds (e.g. asteroid strike), or are obviously driven by ideology more than anything else ("extreme climate change").

    Few civilizations have lasted longer than a couple of centuries, and fewer still longer than a millennia or so. Of the small handful that have (China, India, Roman Empire), none of them have lasted too long without going through fundamental changes and a lot of bloodshed. I fully expect our current global civilization to collapse sometime within the next hundred years (sooner if the USD collapses), but it's the very nature of human civilization; there will be a dark period where some (hopefully most) knowledge is saved, followed by a rebirth of sorts lifetimes down the road.

    Sounds depressing, but just be glad that you live in such a wondrous time, eh?

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  9. Burst Forth, Publish Your Policy Report! by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you look at this list, the majority of these problems are man-made. Other than a super volcano and an asteroid impact, the solution seems pretty simple. We must abandon all technology and kill all but a small percentage of the population. And those that are left must live in isolated groups. That way there will not be a world wide disease outbreak.

    Yep, that's the only option. There's nothing between doing nothing and that option. It's all we have. And if anyone starts to talk about mitigation strategies, planning ahead of time or devoting a single cent of taxpayer money toward preparing for it, we are just all going to have a meltdown and throw a tantrum with teabags on our hats. Thank god we have these strawman arguments for what these ivory tower Oxford elitists are telling us to do: eliminate the human race to protect the human race. I cannot believe they would actually come to that conclusion but there it is, right in the article. Those environmentalists will have us starving in mud huts by the end of the month if we just sit by and let this academic report go unabated and without criticism!

    *tortured sigh*

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  10. Re:Some Missing Items... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

    18. TV show is cancelled before the plot lines are resolved leading to angry aliens storming the planet demanding to see the ending.

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  11. Re:Fear Mongering FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The scariest scenario is that we end up in a stable state similar to how Europe languished for over 1000 years with tiny, feuding dukedoms and duchies, where because of the constant warfare, any attempts at trade would be impossible, since any traders would be killed and their goods taken for a dukedom's coffers... or killed and the goods burned so it doesn't go to the next dukedom on the list. This was a very stable state where no progress could be made in technology or the arts... until the Black Plague make it impossible for the ruling class to have enough backs to flog to keep themselves on top. Subsistance peasants could grow things like olives instead of crops needed for food, and up sprang the Renaissance when before the plague, large nations that had the means to do things were just a pipe dream.

    This nightmare can easily hit us again. Europe and the US are a lot like Rome where instead of bread and circuses, it is beard oil and iPhones. The barbarians are already at the gate, and unlike a conquering Rome which "embraced and extended" Greece's civilization, they are interested in nothing but destruction. Knowledge can be saved, but with the ethic that groups [1] like the Taliban and ISIS have (destroying the Buddhist statues for example, as well as burning film archives), it will be a lot harder to preserve items from our current civilization than it was back after Rome fell and a lot of scrolls and libraries wound up in Persia for safekeeping.

    Our civilization is robust. Europe was nearly eradicated by WWII, but it is the beacon of light for the world now. However, it wouldn't take much for a global war to start that would involve every nation out there [2].

    However, if enough of the world got destroyed, the ability to get back to working on state of the art technology may not happen. One needs the tools to make the tools, ad nauseum. Destroying an energy infrastructure would put things back in a dark age for a long time, since coal and oil are musts to keep the lights on, and nuclear requires a civilization level to keep running. Transportation is also vital, for rare earths, coal, water, food, and other basics to keep a civilization active.

    As for decentralized energy, they all have issues. Solar is good, but is one EMP blast away from being history.

    Which leaves hydroelectric and geothermal... and those are only usable in only a few regions, which would leave the rest of the world sans power.

    Without power and transportation, there would be starvation in the billions, since there is no way a densely packed city like Signapore, Dubai, or even London can support itself by food grown in a nearby radius. Even here in the US, if the trucks stopped going into NYC, in 1-3 days, the entire city will wind up a giant Donner party.

    What can one do? Here in the US, one is fairly lucky -- arable land is available with wells to be dug. 5-20 acres can keep a family fed, with a critical mass of available livestock around so life can go on even if anything more high tech than a horse-drawn carriage was rendered inoperable. Getting out of the "hives" is a high priority since one's life is at the mercy of the city's administration if push comes to shove.

    [1]: Again, one has to note that Islamic countries were the ones that kept Roman and Greek history from being lost in time while the average European had an average lifespan of a Justin Bieber fan (if they didn't starve to death, they were killed by the nobles for sport.) It is the extreme offshoots from the Wahhabi philosophy that view only setting up a thanatocracy as one's sole goal in life. It is ironic that the group/religion which preserved Western religion and culture for centuries, now has extremist sects devoted to its destruction.

    [2]: This can easily be started. If Russia completely collapsed and neighboring countries started claiming territory, this would bring every single country in, either in hopes of a land grab, or preventing an enemy from doing so. We saw shades of this a century ago when countries came to Russia to fend off others. Even the US did this... and this is still a sore point with Russians, especially when Murmansk and Archangelsk are brought up.

  12. Overpopulation is a myth; abundance a reality by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 4, Interesting

    See: http://overpopulationisamyth.c...

    In general, as Julian Simon wrote, the (educated, nourished, healthy) human imagination is the ultimate resource that invents all other resources, so in general the more people you have, the more imagination you have. For example, woudl we have the internet if someone in the 1600s had decided there were too many people because London was overcrowded and killed off all but a million humans on the planet? The solar system can probably support quadrillions of people living in space habitats that can duplicate themselves from sunlight and asteroidal ore like JD Bernal imagined in the 1920s.
    http://www.juliansimon.com/wri...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
    http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/...
    http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/...

    That list is very similar to what I had listed here in back in 1999 (minus a few fanciful ones):
    http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/...
    "The race is on to make the human world a better (and more resilient) place before one of these overwhelms us:
            Autonomous military robots out of control
            Nanotechnology virus / gray slime
            Ethnically targeted virus
            Sterility virus
            Computer virus
            Asteroid impact
            Y2K
            Other unforseen computer failure mode
            Global warming / climate change / flooding
            Nuclear / biological war
            Unexpected economic collapse from Chaos effects
            Terrorism w/ unforseen wide effects
            Out of control bureaucracy (1984)
            Religious / philosophical warfare
            Economic imbalance leading to world war
            Arms race leading to world war
            Zero-point energy tap out of control
            Time-space information system spreading failure effect (Chalker's Zinder Nullifier)
            Unforseen consequences of research (energy, weapons, informational, biological)"

    But in the end, I think the issue raised in my sig is the biggest challenge: the perilous irony of people using the tools of material abundance in a war-like way as if material scarcity was still a major concern, as well as derivative issues like the moral problem of creating artificial scarcity under capitalism and so on. There are possible solutions to such issues (basic income, expanded gift economy, improved subsistence via 3D printing and personal agricultural robots and indoor agriculture and solar panels and so on, participatory democratic planning supported by the internet), but ideology and existing artificial-scarcity-based power structures stands in the way. Still, the dominant ideology is slowly shifting top a more open and abundance-oriented one. As Buckminster Fuller said decades ago, whether it will be Utopia or Oblivion will be a touch-and-go relay race to the very end...

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    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  13. Re:Fear Mongering FTW by Daniel+Hoffmann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is that globalization means that EVERYONE collapses at the SAME time, all those old civilizations collapsed over an extended period of time and most parts of the world were not affected directly by their downfall. I don't think our retrospective lessons of past events will help much for the future in this case.