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Federal Study: Marijuana Use Doesn't Increase Auto Crash Rates

An anonymous reader writes: After the legalization of marijuana in multiple states around the U.S., many are worried about a corresponding uptick in car crashes as people drive while under the influence of pot. But according to a new federal study (PDF) commissioned by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, those fears seem unfounded. They report that after adjusting for other factors (people who tend to drive after using marijuana also tend to be more crash-prone in general), there was no statistically significant increase in crash rates by drivers who tested positive for the drug. It's still a bad idea to drive high, but driving drunk is far, far worse: "One substance was shown to have a major influence on crashes: alcohol. The study confirmed the enormous danger of drinking and driving, even after age and sex adjustment: drivers with a 0.05% blood-alcohol level were found to be twice as likely to be in a crash. For a person weighing 180 to 190 pounds, that could be a single can of beer, glass of wine, or shot of liquor. At 0.08% (two drinks), the likelihood is quadrupled, and at .20% (four drinks or more), the risk is higher by 23 times."

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  1. But, but, you're using logic and science by msobkow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is you're using logic and science to argue with people who still believe bullshit WOD propaganda like the "gateway drug" theory.

    They're not interested in facts, statistics, or scientific evidence. Like fundamentalist religion people, they've made up their mind and anything that disagrees with their predisposition is a "lie".

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    1. Re:But, but, you're using logic and science by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Drunk drivers run through stop signs.
      High drivers wait for the stop signs to turn green.

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    2. Re:But, but, you're using logic and science by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean like how they call it a narcotic, and a hallucinogen, when in fact it is neither?

      As you say, they're not interested in facts ... they've re-defined the terms to meed an ideological view, and it has nothing at all to do with the truth, just what they want the message to be.

      The vilification of marijuana is so engrained in the way these people see the problem they're long past the point where they can discuss it in terms of reality.

      Make no mistake about it, these people have built up a fantasy in their heads, and anybody who tries to demonstrate otherwise is "teh evul enemy". There really is no room for science and facts in this debate for some of the idiots involved.

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    3. Re:But, but, you're using logic and science by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Get on the interstate while high? Spoken like someone who's never smoked. That's fucking crazy talk. Most pot smokers don't even want to drive while high, let alone get on a major highway.

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    4. Re:But, but, you're using logic and science by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Funny

      Any time someone responds to a study with the general statement "They are wrong, I have an anecdote to prove it!" should be tagged and forever prohibited from participating in discussions or weighing in on decisions on the topic.

      I knew a guy once who agreed completely with you. I do too.

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    5. Re:But, but, you're using logic and science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You clearly can't read then.
      They're not comparing individual people while intoxicated and while not intoxicated. They're comparing the accident rates of intoxicated people to sober people.

      If the substance in question impairs driving, there will be an increased rate of accidents among the intoxicated population for said substance.
      If there is no such increase in accidents while people are intoxicated on a substance, then the data indicates that said substance does not impair driving.

      The data from this study shows:
      Alcohol intoxication impairs driving, as shown by the greatly increased accident rate.
      Marijuana intoxication does *not* impair driving, as shown by the *lack* of an increased accident rate. (In other words, the accident rate for those on weed is statistically the same as the accident rate of people who are completely *sober*.)

  2. We knew this in the 1970s by io333 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Studies more than 40 years old have always consistently shown this, including one I read as a young boy long ago, that showed professional race drivers after mild marijuana intoxication had IMPROVED lap times, though this edge dropped off at higher intoxication levels. Trying to point stuff like this out over the decades had jerkwads accusing me of the most awful things. Whatever I just don't care anymore. Marijuana being illegal while alcohol is not is insanity by definition, but most people are dumb animals and our world is run by sociopaths and there's nothing I can do about it.

  3. Re: Um, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary butchered the article (surprisingly). What it should have said was that after adjusting for other factors (namely age and sex) in the group that were in accidents, there was not a difference between using and not using Marijuana.

    For example young men are more likely to be in an accident (Regardless of drug use), they are also more likely to smoke weed compared to other groups.

  4. Re:Rate of use by Junta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I'm inclined to also be suspicious of the study and fear people getting the wrong idea that it's ok to drive under *any* impairment, I do find one portion of your comment bizarre:

    It's disappointing to see my tax money going to support the use of either.

    I'm scratching my head at this sentiment over a study that was probably extraordinarily cheap compared to how much tax money goes towards enforcement and incarceration to fight the use of marijuana.

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  5. Re:Rate of use by lazybratsche · · Score: 5, Informative

    I suppose it really is to much to ask that people Read The Fucking Study...

    In a nutshell, this study collected drug use data from 3095 drivers involved in crashes and 6190 matched control drivers. THC was detected in 234/3095 crash involved drivers, vs 379/6190 controls. That sample size is plenty. If you think otherwise, please explain why you think the studies' methodology is statistically underpowered.

    The biggest caveat is probably that THC testing can be positive even if the drug use was days or weeks ago. I'm not aware of a test that, like BAC, can detect whether someone is high as balls right now. That makes the conclusions a bit weaker, but we can still conclude that people who frequently use marijuana are not riskier drivers than anyone else, and blood THC testing is not a measurement of impairment.

  6. DoT & NHTSA Already Knew This by Guy+From+V · · Score: 5, Informative

    This study from 1993 (mentioned earlier probably) shows that this was already known to federal authorities, but was probably swept under the rug or willingly ignored by legislators for obvious reasons.

    http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/25000/2...

  7. Re:Rate of use by rogoshen1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm more upset at my tax dollars being used to fight the use of something as harmless as pot. Meth and pot are not in the same league, to claim otherwise shows how poor your grasp on reality is.

    I will agree that the medicinal marijuana argument is a bit of a "camel's nose' strategy as is the let's make everything out of hemp!" -- but in terms of addiction, societal and bodily harm -- the fact that the biggest 'risk' to pot use is a legal one; is telling.