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How NSA Spies Stole the Keys To the Encryption Castle

Advocatus Diaboli writes with this excerpt from The Intercept's explanation of just how it is the NSA weaseled its way into one important part of our communications: AMERICAN AND BRITISH spies hacked into the internal computer network of the largest manufacturer of SIM cards in the world, stealing encryption keys used to protect the privacy of cellphone communications across the globe, according to top-secret documents provided to The Intercept by National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden. The hack was perpetrated by a joint unit consisting of operatives from the NSA and its British counterpart Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ. The breach, detailed in a secret 2010 GCHQ document, gave the surveillance agencies the potential to secretly monitor a large portion of the world's cellular communications, including both voice and data.

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  1. NSA... by tekrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we all just agree that the NSA is the most nefarious hacking group, the most dangerous and out of control? That they make all the other so called "black hats" look like innocent little babies?

    I think we all need to work together to get rid of this terrible, nasty, unpredictable hacker group -- for the sake of national and international security. They represent a clear and present danger to the future of this country.

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    If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
    1. Re:NSA... by ATMAvatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree. It is becoming increasingly difficult to consider the NSA as anything other than an extremely well-funded criminal organization.

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      "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  2. How is this even remotely legal? by Jahoda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Under what possible interpretation of the law can this be considered the actions of lawful government?

  3. I think people do not understand how deep it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not just about SIM cards.

    Gemalto makes smart card readers etc. Think not just communications, nor banking. Think secure access. We use things like that to ascertain authenticity and inviolability in signed documents, emails etc.

    We used.

  4. Legal, schmeagle by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Under what possible interpretation of the law can this be considered the actions of lawful government?

    Oh, I'm sure they can find something. You can't do anything about it -- you can't sue -- because you don't have standing. You'd have to show they were listening to *you*, just to start with, and then you'd have to have a few million to push it through to the supreme court.

    And *then* of course you'd be facing the same idiots that think "shall not infringe" means "infringe", "intrastate" means "interstate", article 3 means article 5, and that "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized" means "as long as we think it's reasonable, we can search and seize to our heart's content", and " no ex post facto Law shall be passed" means "retroactive punishment is no problem."

    The only privacy you have at this point is in your own head. Assuming you haven't spoken, written down, or otherwise "shared" your thoughts.

    The system is broken. Badly. And very few care -- we're stuck on this downhill-all-the-way roller coaster ride.

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    I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
  5. Time to Embargo USA and UK by DavenH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's what they'd do.

  6. Re:A big surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's already sort of the case. The NSA and similar agencies in other countries are LOADED with useless incompetent staff and engineers. It has everything to do with their impossible hiring practices combined with it being a shitty unethical job. They don't even pay super well, and anyone competent can make more in the private sector.

    This makes the whole thing even more scary to me, because being utterly corrupt and not very bright are pretty much absolute requirements for the job. The fact that they get anywhere at all is because they have a huge budget and federal backing to force companies to play along.

    I'm always extremely skeptical of stories that the NSA actually broke something through math. It's way way more plausible that they simply paid someone off on the inside.

  7. Re:A big surprise by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the points are though, that first, companies do not do a good job of cybersecurity, or security at all for that matter. This is the issue that allowed another party to gain access to the crypto data for the SIM cards and for other security mechanisms in order to defeat them.

    And second, while the NSA and the British equivalent might be unweildy bureaucratic monsters where those in-charge might not even know what the appendages are doing, they're well-enough funded that they can afford to buy people off to socially-engineer their way in to places where they wouldn't otherwise have the right to go. That gives them the ability to get into corporate networks or to get data from individuals working for corporations; they buy their way in and the consequences of the actions of the employee are not the NSA's concern. All they want/need is the data, and if they can buy it for cash or buy their way in for cash then they might just do that.

    Security is hard. Ultimately it comes down to the individual employee, who has to have access to what he or she works on, but by having that access, also can be a risk. A multimillion dollar system can be compromised by a single technical employee because that employee needs access through those safeguards to do the job. It's really no different than bribing the guards at the castle to get in.

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    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
  8. Every company should release their private data by CQDX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    on every US and UK government employee. Let them become life-time victims of identity theft. Let the Chinese and Russian intelligence agencies have a field day. It's the only hope we have that they'll learn.

  9. USA! USA USA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I think some of the points, however plausible, are a bit on the side of paranoia, the Libertarians firmly believe that we should have only a defense force and not project power.

    The current rational now for IS - or whatever they are called now - is to fight them over there so they don't come over here. They just want control of the Middle East - they are no threat to us. Also, the Arabs, Persians, Kurds, and other people's of the Middle East have been dealing with their ethnic problems for thousands of years. And of course, being there, we the USA are going to fuck things up even more.

    Unfortunately, we have a populous who treats our military conquests like a football game. USA! USA! win! It makes small people feel big.

    We in the USA are small people who like big guns. We lost the idea of walk softly and carry a big stick.

    We bluster, shoot things up and wonder why other peoples hate us.

    But this football mentality is how you get people to volunteer to fight in idiotic and unjust wars - get the stupid people to die and get maimed for the elite.

  10. Snowden cared. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And, unlike most of us, Snowden actually did something about it. As a result of his revelations, political pressure is being applied to the government from many different directions to get the situation resolved.

    Of course, it cost Snowden his job, and his ability to live in his own country, and might still land him in jail or worse.

    You could swallow some of that cynicism and at least try to improve things. Maybe ask the government to grant snowden clemency?

    Nah. Why exert the effort to click an online petition when it is so much easier to just bitch about how hopeless things are?

  11. Snowden fatigue by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This should either be the biggest news story on the planet, or the biggest lie of the year, but the public response seems to be "meh". The problem is, Snowden stole too much. Or claims to have stolen too much. There have been so *many* earthshattering Snowden revelations that both the outrage and the fact-checking seems to have evaporated.

    This is a big problem either way.