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Yik Yak Raises Controversy On College Campuses

HughPickens.com writes Jonathan Mahler writes in the NYT that just as Facebook swept through the dorm rooms of America's college students a decade ago, the social app Yik Yak, which shows anonymous messages from users within a 1.5-mile radius is now taking college campuses by storm. "Think of it as a virtual community bulletin board — or maybe a virtual bathroom wall at the student union," writes Mahler. "It has become the go-to social feed for college students across the country to commiserate about finals, to find a party or to crack a joke about a rival school." While much of the chatter is harmless, some of it is not. "Yik Yak is the Wild West of anonymous social apps," says Danielle Keats Citron. "It is being increasingly used by young people in a really intimidating and destructive way." Since the app's introduction a little more than a year ago, Yik Yak has been used to issue threats of mass violence on more than a dozen college campuses, including the University of North Carolina, Michigan State University and Penn State. Racist, homophobic and misogynist "yaks" have generated controversy at many more, among them Clemson, Emory, Colgate and the University of Texas. At Kenyon College, a "yakker" proposed a gang rape at the school's women's center.

Colleges are largely powerless to deal with the havoc Yik Yak is wreaking. The app's privacy policy prevents schools from identifying users without a subpoena, court order or search warrant, or an emergency request from a law-enforcement official with a compelling claim of imminent harm. Esha Bhandari, a staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union, argues that "banning Yik Yak on campuses might be unconstitutional," especially at public universities or private colleges in California where the so-called Leonard Law protects free speech. She said it would be like banning all bulletin boards in a school just because someone posted a racist comment on one of the boards. In one sense, the problem with Yik Yak is a familiar one. Anyone who has browsed the comments of an Internet post is familiar with the sorts of intolerant, impulsive rhetoric that the cover of anonymity tends to invite. But Yik Yak's particular design can produce especially harmful consequences, its critics say. "It's a problem with the Internet culture in general, but when you add this hyper-local dimension to it, it takes on a more disturbing dimension," says Elias Aboujaoude." "You don't know where the aggression is coming from, but you know it's very close to you."

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  1. Re:Baking political correctness in society by davide+marney · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow, who is making the argument that we should "sacrifice free speech for a better society"? That sounds positively Orwellian. Or something from China, where the government runs a massive censorship operation.

    Liberal folks, this is your issue. The conservatives and libertarians are all over preserving the right to speech. Where is your support for the same? Speech is not action, it's just someone's opinion. Speech cannot hurt you, but the lack of freedom to speak most definitely can. You cannot "speak truth to power" if you cannot speak. What, no one remembers the Matrix?

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  2. Can you Yak a fire in the Campus theater? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Not all speech is protected.

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  3. Anonymous speech *is* the problem by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not in general mind you, but most people who have their name/reputation tied to what they say to others are rarely* inflammatory, belligerent, or insulting because it has social consequences for the speaker. But anonymous speech, where it has no consequences for you and only consequences for a target, is specifically the case where people become assholes.

    Now, they may have been assholes all their lives, but anonymous services empower them. Are you really in favor of empowering assholes?

    *since many on /. seem so to be pissed all the time, I mean "rarely" in the sense of the number of mean spirited comments compared to all comments made in the world, not the number of mean spirited comments *you* come up with among your friends or when you're pissed at someone/something.

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    1. Re:Anonymous speech *is* the problem by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes because history had proven that there was never any blowback from saying women should have the right to vote or that blacks and other minorities deserve the same rights and abilities in society that whites and everyone else enjoys.

      Yep, you should think twice before publically participating in political speech else that donation to the group wanting to define marriage between a man and a woman will stop you from having a job at some places.

      You are 100% corect think hard before you speak.

    2. Re:Anonymous speech *is* the problem by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      " it allows them to vent their issues and opinions. "

      You say "allow" I say "empower." Same concept.

      I'm under no illusion that we can fix society, because it's full of fucked up people who are essentially raised to be mean, bigoted assholes by their parents (who are generally mean, bigoted assholes).

      Allowing the borderline assholes to explore these tendencies and gain confidence in their ability to emotionally torture others will not fix them. Allowing full-on assholes to do the same is no better.

      "Anonymity actually empowers society to see the underlying issues within when they are small and addressable"
      I would disagree. Society is not a user interface on a computer database; not even close. And simply showing that there are assholes among us is no closer to a solution. We know they're there. All this does is reinforce their belief that being an asshole is perfectly acceptable, because there are no consequences for doing so.

      If you went to class every day and called your professor an ugly cunt that should be beaten every day, how would that affect your relationship with that professor? If you said your professor was a dick and should have someone sodomize him with a baseball bat during the Q&A portion of a lecture, would that help or hurt your grade in the class? What if you could do it anonymously? Which of those two cases would produce a better societal outcome for you, personally? Which one would produce a better outcome for the class as a whole?

      The anonymous platform does not benefit society in these cases, only the speaker. Most of Yik Yak is innocuous. The subset we're talking about is, imho, abusive.

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  4. Re:Baking political correctness in society by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, who is making the argument that we should "sacrifice free speech for a better society"?

    Pretty much everyone who mentions "hate speech" as an issue. Which, of course, includes the governments of every country with hate speech laws....

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  5. Re:Baking political correctness in society by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the classic harsh internet reality that society doesn't like to face. To have true free speech, you must have anonymity. But some of that free speech is going to be things that society isn't used to hearing (and doesn't want to hear), because society isn't used to true anonymity.

    Look at it as an insight into how people REALLY feel--when they're not compelled by threat of expulsion/arrest/harassment to be polite and politically correct.

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  6. Re:Baking political correctness in society by c · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...an anonymous way for people to let out the aggressions and hatreds that they already had, and are just afraid to announce...

    I doubt it.

    Most of them are just trolls. You know, bored assholes who've learned exactly which buttons to press to get the most reaction out of society.

    That being said, the root of the problem is the same; political correctness is fundamentally just a way to tell the trolls which buttons are the best.

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  7. Re:Baking political correctness in society by ctrlshift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Liberal folks, this is your issue. The conservatives and libertarians are all over preserving the right to speech.

    This, from the party that is attempting to ban the term "climate change"
    Remember this? http://www.miamiherald.com/new... It's kinda recent...

    I don't know why "free speech" seems to lose all its value when NOT being used to threaten women.

  8. Re:Baking political correctness in society by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But when anonymity is achieved, as in trolls on the net and this service, people show their true colors.

    You have no way of knowing if that's true or not.

    I can post random shit on the Internet for random reasons that have absolutely no correlation to any personal beliefs or positions on various subjects and you cannot, with accuracy, determine what my true thoughts are.

    Trolls can be gross and their posts can be received poorly, but assigning an accurate profile to the troll is impossible.

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  9. Re:Baking political correctness in society by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not this.

    Look at it as an insight into how people REALLY feel ...

    The cloak of anonymity is not the cloak of truthfulness.

    "Troll," is not a new or complex concept. It is graffiti. Sure, some of it is offensive or upsetting, but we should be concerned only when an ordinace of law has been violated.

    For instance, spray painting the "N" word on public places is classified as hate speech. Changing that to, "The mayor sux." would simply be defacing property, at best.

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  10. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, Try listening to some television recorded in the 1970s or 1980s and then listen to today's equivalent. Back then, people would identify each other by ethnicity and criticize each other openly. Nada today. Demonstrates a clear censorship, and calling it 'self-censorship' is bullshit, it's a centrally mandated process. Everyone feels better, right?

    What you call self-censorship I would call being civil. A society establishes rules and norms for behaviors it considers acceptable, and individuals are still free to act contrary to those norms; however such actions are subject to the condemnation of society at large.

    But when anonymity is achieved, as in trolls on the net and this service, people show their true colors.

    Being oblivious to the process doesn't mean it didn't happen.

    There are always assholes in this world; and most are cowards who would hide behind anonymity to avoid getting their ass kicked. Others simply think it's funny without regard to the consequences of their actions; that is especially true, as studies show, of teenagers who have not yet fully developed the capacity to think their actions through to possible consequences.

    I am all for free speech, even what I would find distasteful, since censoring it doesn't allow people to address issues it raises and the best way to address bad ideas is to expose them to the light of day. However, schools also have the problem of balancing speech with acting in the face of a threat. It's all well and good to say most of them are simply juvenile jokes, even if they do hurt others, and will not be acted on; however how do you separate those from a real threat. More importantly, how do accomplish that without trampling on free speech rights?

    As an aside, I find the Leonard Law interesting in that it compels private institutions to comply with government limit son restricting speech. What I find interesting is it was proposed by a Republican, which goes to show they are for private property rights and limited government until someone does something they don't like and then the "heavy hand" of "government overreach" is brought out to compile someone to comply with their viewpoint of what is correct. Sometimes I think the two parties in the US should merge and just call themselves the Hypocrisy Party with the head of an ass and the body of an elephant to demonstrate their thinking capacity and view of the proper size of a government.

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  11. I love these! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They just prove that human being in general when they can hide who they are, turn into horrible monsters.

    History repeats, yet nobody learns.

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  12. Reality of YikYak by danaris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the harsh reality:

    On the campus I work for, there have been death threats posted on YikYak. Are they credible? There's no way to know. Because we don't know who's sending them. So they have to be treated as credible—and the university simply doesn't have the resources to provide even one person with 24/7 protection, let alone the half-dozen or so that the death threats were issued against.

    So the administration's response was basically, "We cannot protect you if someone is determined to get at you. If you believe the threats are credible, then our best recommendation is for you to leave the campus." And some of them did. I believe they came back after winter break, but still, they missed final exams, and I have no idea how much hassle that's going to cause them in the long run.

    Which all means that if you are a person who has a grudge against someone else on campus, and few scruples, you can get them more or less kicked off of campus by issuing an anonymous death threat against them on YikYak.

    Is that the kind of "harsh reality" you think is appropriate? Where people who are just trying to get a decent education (and paying a pretty penny for it) can be forced to make the choice between abandoning it, and risking their lives by staying on campus, just because some asshole with an anonymous YikYak account wants them to?

    I get the importance of anonymity in free speech, believe me. But free speech is a means to an end, not an end in itself. That end, broadly, is a free society. And society works because bad actors can be called to account for their bad actions. If people can do bad things without threat of consequence, the whole thing starts to fall apart.

    Dan Aris

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  13. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Censorship LAW might not apply if there's no governement action involved. Censorship itself still does.

    Freedom of speech does not mean you can come into my hose by force and demand I listen to you rant about Jeebus.

    Freedom of speech does not allow you to call 911 and swat me.

    Freedom of speech does not allow you to make fraudulent bomb threats ot terrorist threats.

    Threats of violence are not covered.

    Opposing opinions and not being arrested for holding those opinions and speaking out about them are covered.

    And call ing the everyday things that we do to be civilized censorship are simply stupid. I saw a very attractive woman at breakfast this morning. In that definition I self-censored myself from trying to engage in sex with her.

    as for Yik-Yak's policy of not giving out names without a subpoena, well, that can be taken care of quickly. I'm sure everyon except the anarchists would simply love to know who the anonymous asshat was who called in whatever bogus threat they made.

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  14. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Do not lump conservatives with libertarians. Conservatives are just as happy to sensor speech that they do not like because it is anti-Christian/American or too Muslim/Mexican/foreign sounding.

    And modern day Libertarians are Just Republicans pretending to be Libertarians. A particularly noxious combination.

    Okay, you can start swearing at me now.

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  15. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Attempt to say or write anything that is outside the bounds of political correctness and the peer groups will swoop in and ostracize you regardless of how benign the comment was.

    Hil-fucking-larious. You demonstrate the fallacy so many people have about free speech.

    Let me lay it out for you:

    You are allowed to have your opinion.

    They are allowed to have theirs

    It does not mean you posit what you like, and no one is allowed to respond to it.

    That isn't free speech at all.

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  16. Re:Baking political correctness in society by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actual liberals are against censorship. But that's a statement in English, not in Americanese.

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  17. Re:Baking political correctness in society by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The words are just symbols. The emotions you attach to them are your own. The problem is projection:

    Back when I was in school, we had a rash of bomb threats. All fake.

    But every time, they evacuated the school. Instead of being in a nice warm building we shivered outside in the cold.

    Eventually, they caught the kid responsible for doing this.

    Was his free speech violated because he was arrested for making those threats?

    Fast forward to modern times.....

    Now here are some cases below, where threats were made, and some students were arrested

    http://www.collegian.psu.edu/n...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Were their free speech rights violated?

    If someone calls you and tells you there is a bomb planted in your house are you going to ignore it? Was the person just exercising their free speech to get you all freaked out and leave the place?

    People get so confused about free speech. It's always good to remember the old adage - The rights of your fist end abruptly at my face. Purposeful disruption by threats of violence are never appropriate.

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  18. Re:Baking political correctness in society by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are simply 100% against free speech, is the point.

    Only deeply offensive speech needs protection - the freedom of agreeable speech is meaningless. There is no gap between "banning hate speech" and "ending free speech". The former is simply a euphemism for the latter.

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  19. Identitarians Don't Want Police Involvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the UVA Rape Hoax showed, they don't want the police to handle campus cases because that pesky "due process of law" prevents them from punishing males before they've been convicted.

    They prefer Star Chambers where the lives of men can be ruined without offering them a chance to fight back. Much better for instituting conformkity and social control to the identitarian agenda.

  20. Re:Baking political correctness in society by WaffleMonster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If somebody makes a racist comment to somebody, they SHOULD be called out for it. If it was unintentional, then they SHOULD apologize and say so.

    The need to "call people out" for saying something you don't agree with or that offends you is a key contributor to social problems you have enumerated.

    All those shouting intolerance will not be tolerated with a straight face oblivious to the irony of their remarks are only contributing to an increasingly less free brittle society.

    When people learn to respect the racist and the crackpot as much as they dislike their remarks then and only then will real progress have been made.

  21. Re:Baking political correctness in society by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a bipartisan issue. The liberals want to ban things they don't like and so do the conservatives. Free speech is fine as long as you don't say things that aren't acceptable. I remember that people used to have much thicker skin though about 4 or 5 decades ago. Now if you hurt someone's feelings it's the end of the world. I'm pretty sure the world wont end with a bang or a whimper but a whine.