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Major Museums Start Banning Selfie Sticks
An anonymous reader shares these articles about museums banning the dreaded selfie stick. "Selfie sticks, the logical 'extension' of an already irksome activity, were recently banned in Premier League soccer stadiums. Now museums around the world are starting to do the same over worries of accidental damage to artwork. The Smithsonian barred their use effective last week as a 'preventative measure to protect visitors and museum objects,' especially on crowded days. Meanwhile, a formal ban is pending at Versailles palace and Centre Pompidou in France, and visitors are now being told to stow their sticks by guards at the Louvre. Both Pompidou and the Louvre will continue to allow regular photography and selfies."
On my visits there, I remember signs prohibiting photography...not that anybody paid any attention to them.
It's been a while...maybe it was just flash photography.
Who the hell "dreads" a pole with a camera on it? You are seriously deranged if that's a clinical phobia you suffer from.
John
Just another culture war.
Up until I just googled the phrase seconds ago: "Selfie Stick" I thought it was just something people joked about (hyperbole of where selfies are going) and wasn't actually a real product. I just looked them up and wow...
http://www.thingiverse.com/sea...
We visited the Sistene Chapel and the tour stops right outside the room and the guide is very clear "Be quiet and absolutely no flash photography" and then you walk in and its absolutely packed with people being loud and taking flash pictures.
//TODO: Insert catchy phrase
you can buy cheap ones for like $10
Now there is an illness that needs a custom disease to wipe out those who take them...
Screw your logic, because ... umm... 3D Printing!!!!!!!!!! It's amazing, it's the next big thing, it's a Star Trek replicator...
Hope the hype dies soon...
When I was in the Louvre last year, I was amazed at what was going on in front of the Mona Lisa. Most people had their backs to it.
There were more people preoccupied with getting a photograph of themselves in front of it than there were people looking at the damn thing.
Same story at Venus de Milo statue.
An observation that I made (and this is nothing more than an observation) is that everyone wielding a selfie stick and not looking at the art was Asian.
Or the eye of someone else or a priceless painting. Old memes never die they just get recycled.
I like the idea of the 3D printer mainly because I have 2 small kids and a dog, so toys are broken or chewed quite often. Being able to print new parts and figures overnight as a treat is a nice idea. My problem is the $4k price tag on one plus the plastics and other work once printed. I like it being popular because more and more things are being made for the hobby, but I'd like the demand to come down, and the price for the basics to get started.
Selfie sticks, the only thing that can rival drones in their speed of being banned.
Some would argue that they have the added benefit of not requiring you to actually be in any way sociable with those around you.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
In Northern Iraq, long sticks are positively encouraged in museums.
I'm sure frequent submitter Bennett Haselton has a solution.
http://www.acetonestudio.com
But monopods are still allowed, right?
Log in or piss off.
I don't think ISIS much cares if they damage a piece.
Is it just me, or does the summary icon look like a golden statue of a guy trying really hard to grunt out a turd?
captcha: immature. Fitting.
I like the idea of the 3D printer mainly because I have 2 small kids and a dog, so toys are broken or chewed quite often. Being able to print new parts and figures overnight as a treat is a nice idea. My problem is the $4k price tag on one plus the plastics and other work once printed. I like it being popular because more and more things are being made for the hobby, but I'd like the demand to come down, and the price for the basics to get started.
Sure, but for a common item like this the cost is going to be 99% in the materials, and I imagine that those are going to be cheaper for some chinese manufacturer than your printer.
It would be like trying to print a paperback book on your home printer. Sure, you can sort-of do it, but it will cost you a LOT more than the 50 cents per copy or whatever a publishing house can do it for, since they aren't using a general-purpose printer for the job but rather machinery optimized for the efficient production of books.
I was at the Museum of Natural History in DC a few weeks ago and got hit in the face more than once with those stupid things. I complained to the curator's office before I left, and I'm glad I'm apparently not alone in doing so.
Nobody's going to run off with your camera. Just ask someone nearby to take a photo of you.
Stupid Monday?
http://www.acetonestudio.com
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THIS is why the aliens won;t come visit us ;)
If selfie sticks keep out aliens, then perhaps the US Republican Party ought to offer a tax credit for buying a selfie stick as a "stimulus" in order to solve the immigration problem.
They are easy enough to make yourself, but if you want a selfie stick at all, you really want one with Bluetooth so that you can take a picture without using a timer.
I can't speak for all these places but I know my local museum has a policy against monopods and tripods. This seems to be a logical extension of the policy that some people may need to have clarified.
The phone is attached to the stick, and you're holding the stick, so it's still a selfie.
Just like XKCD, The Big Bang Theory comes to the rescue:
Howard: Do you realize, by owning a 3-D printer, we are reclaiming the manufacturing process and taking jobs back from sweatshops in China?
Raj: I think this thing was made in China.
Howard: Eh, what can you do?
Raj: Ooh, I, I think it's done. Oh, it worked. We printed a whistle.
Howard: Amazing. You realize these things go for 25 cents a pop at a party store.
Raj: And we made it in only three hours. Sounds just like store-bought.
The full video version.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Once they make it A) Affordable, B) the printed materials "sturdier", there will be a reason for the hype.
I see so many folks around me acting like these are the next coming of christ even though they admit they have no real need for one...
:)
And how much did the printer and the materials to print the whistle cost?
That was the point of the video. The machine cost $5,000 and the plastic to make the whistle was in addition to that figure.
The same applies with the two figures (three when you include Raj) for Howard and Bernadette.
Those are awfully expensive items to print at home.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
... required asking a stranger to hold and click your camera while you posed.
Of course, you always got a crappy photo that way, because everyone always thought you primarily wanted a photo of yourself, instead of a photo of something interesting that just happens to have you in the picture...
If you disagree with me on social issues, then it's pretty clear that you are a narrow-minded bigot.
I just attach the camera to my dick. But I need a looooong lens.
Hope the hype dies soon...
The hype of 3D printing or the hype of selfie sticks?
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
Well the idea is that you print things that are not available in a store or on Amazon.
At some point I am going to want some custom milled plastic frame parts to hold together my telescope assembly. Right now I have it temporarily held together via velcro and cable ties. Once I figure out how I want things arranged I would love to have something more permanent.
But there is no way I am going to buy my own 3D printer to print off some plastic junk. Fortunately there are online 3D printing companies that will do one-offs from a 3d model you upload. Sure, its expensive when you look at per-part costs, but custom plastic and metal milling from large companies usually comes with big minimum order quantities.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
I bet if the popular term for these devices was "Autophotographical Portrait Tool" or something internerds would be all over it. Since it's a cutesy term invented by a non-nerd you want to shit all over it.
For assault purposes, is there much or any difference between a selfie stick and a copper pipe? Any bets on how soon they're banned from being carried onto airplanes?
Since the world is full of idiots, you can only attempt to idiot proof the world with rules like "no selfie sticks". Just like they had to ban countless hiking trails because the self proclaimed 'nature lovers' would leave mounds of shit and graffiti all over the place.
Normally I'm pretty libertarian and say leave people alone. There are limits however, these being two of them.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Meanwhile, a formal ban is pending at Versailles palace and Centre Pompidou in France, and visitors are now being told to stow their sticks by guards at the Louvre.
Yeah, if someone brings one of those stupid things to my house I'll help them "stow their sticks" where the sun don't shine.
Do you have ESP?
Hence the smileys in that and my original post.
Once costs are under control (which I'm sure won't happen for a good long time), this will be able to replace a lot of Manufacturing jobs.
Reminded of the stupid MP/RIAA ads "You wouldn't download a car, would you?"
Once the tech and the cost savings are there, hell yes I would. Middlemen just drive up the cost.
Both.
3D printing will eventually be great, but it's got a long ways to go before it's more than a toy for bored hobbyists
If you can make a 3D representation of an object, you can have it made in meatspace using any one of a number of construction technologies - printing, CNC, molding, etc. They key is to have a decent software model that can drive the construction device.
I see this as a sort of game changer for hobbyists / prototypers. Personally, I don't want to babysit a fussy 3D printer which will be out of date in a year. Nor do I want to try and run a sintering printer, complex CNC machine or the like. I would like to upload a file and have the object mailed to me in a couple of days. I see this as analogous to printing photographs. It used to be that you had to buy your own printer, calibrate it, feed it and keep your kids from printing out Disney cartoons using the most expensive liquid on the planet. Now you just upload the data to Snapfish or whomever.
Yes, you can get slightly better results by yourself, if you are willing to take the time and spend the money - but for most people, the quality is quite good enough. And I say that as someone who has an expensive Canon 8 ink printer with expensive Hahnemuhle paper. Once I use up my supply of both of those consumables, I'm out of the printing business.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
I doubt it will ever replace large-scale manufacture. If you printed 300 whistles vs injection molding them or however they make them today, I suspect the printer will still have a higher marginal cost.
I do think it is unfair to lump in the entire cost of the printer. That is a bit like charging a kid $20k for a ride to school because you had to buy a car to make the trip. I'd look at how many whistle-like items you can make using a printer before it wears out and figure out the per-whistle cost that way, plus the cost of consumables and waste.
Not the entire, no, but when you see home hobbyists going nuts to get the parts to build these things you question the sanity of anyone or any of the hype in all this :)
Well, selfie sticks will never be great. It will only ever be a toy for bored teenagers.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
There were already too many comments to read through. Thought y'all might be amused by this though; nicely sums up selfie-sticks.
"Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs," I said. "we have a protractor"
What you're talking about is a solved problem. The bean counters call it amortisation.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Too much recording everything; too little experiencing it. This isn't old person moaning about youth and throwing sticks at the moon, but really... Look at stuff, enjoy it. Really want an image? Buy a postcard. It'll be better than your photo anyway. Want a few? Buy a book. There's a rather gorgeous Sassoferrato in the National Gallery in London. I've been in with friends just to find the one picture. Could have a terrible image of it on my phone... Yes, that'd be easier but sometimes less (often) is more (of an experience).
I fail to see the difference between asking a stranger to take a picture of you in front of something and taking it yourself. Somehow taking it yourself has drawn the ire of hipsters and columnists, in an adolescent "ohmygawd selfies are soooooo annoying" whinge. They justify it with dishonest, self-serving rants about a self-obsessed culture that would somehow be better if people would only ask strangers to take pictures for them. The selfie-stick backlash is what's important...a perfect example of a self-entitled internet culture whose members think anyone cares what they have to say.
1. Offer to take pictures of visitors, in front of green background, at the museum entrance. This step is (a) free, and (b) entirely optional. If you choose to do it, you can take your time to pose, arrange yourself in a group with your friends - however you like it.
2. On exit, offer the visitors a "souvenir pack" containing their photo 'shopped onto various (high-quality) backgrounds showing the most famous pieces in the museum. Sell this for $20 or so. (Include a download code to get the pictures in digital form, and maybe some other bonus content.) At the end of the day, just destroy any pix remaining unsold.
My local zoo does this, it's a huge earner for them.
I've seen some very impressive stuff done with 3D printing. The printers that did it were considerably more expensive than anything on the hobby market.
The 3D printers hobbyists have are basically toys for bored hobbyists.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes