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Sugar Industry Shaped NIH Agenda On Dental Research

sciencehabit writes: The sugar industry convinced the U.S. National Institutes of Health that studies that might persuade people to cut back on sugary foods should not be part of a national plan to fight childhood tooth decay, a new study of historical documents argues. The authors say the industry's activities, which occurred more than 40 years ago, are reminiscent of the tobacco companies' efforts to minimize the risks of smoking.

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  1. Fourty Years Ago by sycodon · · Score: 4, Funny

    We should be OUTRAGED!

    If we can remember back that far.

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    1. Re:Fourty Years Ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should we?

      We are such pussies that we're OK with having the electronic equivalent of scanning every envelope going through the post-office.
      Every phone call is monitored.
      They even have fake cell phone towers.
      All without warrants or even suspicion.

      The last protest I can remember is the million man march.

      Everything else is pale and suppressed in comparison.

    2. Re:Fourty Years Ago by chihowa · · Score: 5, Funny

      No kidding! It's a good thing stuff like that doesn't happen anymore. And even if it does, we can all be completely apathetic about it in forty years.

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    3. Re:Fourty Years Ago by TWX · · Score: 1

      There were some rather large protests in a suburb of St. Louis recently, and they did make the national and international news...

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    4. Re:Fourty Years Ago by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Forty.
      When no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes.
      That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

    5. Re:Fourty Years Ago by Pope · · Score: 1

      He then got forty cavities.

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    6. Re:Fourty Years Ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously? this is STILL a thing today!!! the sad truth is that America was founded on capitalism... While I'm not crazy about any other form of "ism" out there, so far capitalism has undermined the health and intelligence of this country.

      in this there is a dichotomy in my opinion... If I want to buy a bucket o' fries from my local fast food eatery, that's no one friggen' business except between me and the food-mart. Government regulation for the thought that "I don't know what's good for me" is a heinous evil on the citizenry of this nation. However; for that same fast food outlet to go to the government and pay to have any studies that show my decision to buy a bucket o' fries is leading me to heart disease should be stricken from public record, just to make a buck, is EQUALLY heinous!

      I have no idea how it SHOULD be handled... inform me of what is good and bad for my health, then let me decide how quickly I want to die on my own!

  2. Is it a conspiracy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Post-WW2 (military industrial) ordinance makers need a product to keep them in business at wartime levels, therefore convert to making ammonia fertilizer. This fertilizer makes it possible to grow a lot more corn, especially corn soaked in Roundup. Corn also happens to be the major product of a number of early-primary states, which can't help but appreciate all of the subsidy dollars that they receive.

    The Military Complex run Government subsidizes corn that buys votes and is turned into addictive metabolic poison to keep the populace fat, dumb and unhealthy. Much easier to govern the sheeple when they can't run.

  3. The definition of liberty by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

    Well, I need more than chocolate, and for that matter I need more than vanilla. I believe that we need freedom. And choice when it comes to our sugar, and that Joey Naylor, that is the definition of liberty.

    That's the beauty of argument, if you argue correctly, you're never wrong.

    1. Re:The definition of liberty by judoguy · · Score: 2

      And choice when it comes to our sugar, and that Joey Naylor, that is the definition of liberty.

      I wish business and government would not collude to deny me the right to choose what I want to buy, e.g., sugar subsidies, tobacco subsidies, ObamaCare subsidies, etc.

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  4. Re:We neeed COMMUNISM now by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yes, all those West Germans trying to break into the proletariat paradise... The citizens of East Berlin were lucky they had that wall to keep the impoverished, manipulated Westerners out.

    Also, about the evils of capitalism.. I misplaced my child.. I was giving him a bath, and after I threw out the bath water, he just vanished.. any ideas?

  5. The only question I have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is "was the decision /with/ the influence scientifically unsound?" If not, then it doesn't matter. Bring actual PROOF of a problem and not just accusations, please.

  6. Class action here we come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh yeah...sorry the individuals won't get a penny from it, but at least we keep the lawyers rich

  7. who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would expect to hear about bull shit line this on NPR (not that I listen to NPR). Why is this on Slashdot? Slow tech news day?

  8. Re:We neeed COMMUNISM now by mc6809e · · Score: 1, Troll

    I blame a democracy that believes politicians should be responsible for the economy.

    Politicians don't care if kids' teeth fall out as long as they can go on about how many sugar jobs they created to get re-elected.

    And the first Iraq war might not have happened if the public didn't expect Bush Sr to do something about a recession created by Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.

    We actually killed people in an effort to reduce the unemployment rate and stabilize oil markets, all because the public thought the president was responsible for the recession and was responsible for fixing it.

  9. Drilled if you do, not drilled if you don't. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    And yet other studies show thinner people prefer sweeter concoctions and fatter people less sweet, greasier ones.

    They were probably promoting longevity at the cost of a few cavities. Anyone ever study cavities vs. obesity?

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  10. SWEET! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -this message brought to you by the Associated Investment Managers of the ADA

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  11. Shhhh! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We should be OUTRAGED!

    What is also outrageous is the unwritten assumption that the general public didn't know sugar contributed to tooth decay. Like it was some big secret and the world had no idea. Or the notion that sugar consumption would not continue regardless.

    Meanwhile, those evil sugar companies were doing stuff like this;

    For example, sugar and food companies funded research on a vaccine to prevent tooth decay, and on adding an enzyme to foods to break up dental plaque. (A 1968 newspaper article headlined: “These monkeys may save your teeth” described a monkey lab that was studying the idea of mixing the enzyme with raw sugar.)

    1. Re:Shhhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most people don't know that sugar companies "work with the government" to keep cheaper sugar from being imported into the United States. We pay 40% more for sugar than the rest of the world. Interestingly, this started around the same time as the dental research.

    2. Re:Shhhh! by Required+Snark · · Score: 0
      Thank god for the 40 years of improved dental health that resulted from those tooth decay vaccines.

      So you're quoting an article from an unnamed newspaper that is certainly based on a press release from the sugar industry. Obviously a high quality source.

      How long did the research last? Who did it? How much did it cost? The last one is the real kicker. What are the odds that the did just the minimal amount to pretend that they gave a crap?

      Go watch some late night TV and look at all the products that are "clinically tested". I'm sure they are of the same high quality that went into looking for a tooth decay vaccine.

      Why are you making excuses for corrupt big business that games the system? Are you in the pay of the Koch (pronounced cock) brothers? I've never been able to fathom why so many people jump to the defense of those who put corporate profit before the well being of the citizens. Scratch the surface and it's not about liberty, it's about greed. What's wrong with you?

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    3. Re:Shhhh! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      What you see as 'excuses' is simply an observation on my part. Your reaction is telling. It is convenient to have someone to blame & to hate, isn't it? They are all evil & greedy.....as long as you see them from afar and ignore the complexities of society.

    4. Re:Shhhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like people had no idea LEAD was poisonous, because people believed what the Government told them. Thanks to the oil companies, they made sure we believed lead was safe.

    5. Re:Shhhh! by C0R1D4N · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not the sugar industry, the corn industry. High Fructose Corn Syrup creates more jobs in the midwest growing corn than sugar plantations in the Caribbean do.

    6. Re:Shhhh! by dywolf · · Score: 1

      obviously the real story is how the sugar industry exposed the biased research the NIH was doing, and was simply working to preserve the scientists intregrity in the face of the research they were paid to find.

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    7. Re:Shhhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just the oil companies, but General Motors and the auto industry as well.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T....

      I'm particularly fond of the passage covering the October 30, 1924 press conference.

  12. Not so much by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    the industry's activities, which occurred more than 40 years ago, are reminiscent of the tobacco companies' efforts to minimize the risks of smoking.

    Yeah, except, uh, brushing your teeth won't prevent lung cancer. We know how to combat sugar -- don't eat candy that's going to stick to teeth and remain there for prolonged periods, drink/rinse with water after eating it, and brush regularly. It's simple enough that most people can handle it, and people aren't exactly dropping dead from cavities anyway. So reminiscent maybe, but not really the same thing at all.

    1. Re:Not so much by judoguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, except, uh, brushing your teeth won't prevent lung cancer.

      There is a sugar/cancer tie in though. The insulin spike from sugar consumption promotes tumor growth. Not that the sugar itself is carcinogenic, but the subsequent insulin flooding exacerbates the cancer. I've known people with advanced cancer whose doctors told them this, they wen't completely off carbs and tumor growth slowed significantly.

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    2. Re:Not so much by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

      A lot of food and drinks in the USA (and Mexico, for that matter) have so much sugar added that for practical purposes you can think of it as candy....

    3. Re:Not so much by operagost · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that if I have cancer, maybe I shouldn't carb load? How about if I DON'T have cancer? Carbs, Dr. Atkins' mortal enemy, don't cause tumors.

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    4. Re:Not so much by dywolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      From Mayo Clinic and other actual medical cancer studies:

      Myth: People with cancer shouldn't eat sugar, since it can cause cancer to grow faster.

      Fact: Sugar doesn't make cancer grow faster. All cells, including cancer cells, depend on blood sugar (glucose) for energy. But giving more sugar to cancer cells doesn't speed their growth. Likewise, depriving cancer cells of sugar doesn't slow their growth.

      This misconception may be based in part on a misunderstanding of positron emission tomography (PET) scans, which use a small amount of radioactive tracer — typically a form of glucose. All tissues in your body absorb some of this tracer, but tissues that are using more energy — including cancer cells — absorb greater amounts. For this reason, some people have concluded that cancer cells grow faster on sugar. But this isn't true.

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    5. Re:Not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not completely accurate. All carbs convert into "sugar" (glucose) in the blood. Cancer cells do thrive off of sugar. If you follow an extremely low-carb diet your glucose levels will be significantly lower than the normal American diet would provide. Whether this prevents or slows cancer I can't be sure, but it seems possible at least.

    6. Re:Not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fact: Sugar doesn't make cancer grow faster.

      FYI, you haven't answered the comment you replied to. The claim (I'll expand it) is that insulin and IGF promote tumor growth. Not sugar. And the evidence that I remember being put forth for this (in Good Calories, Bad Calories) had nothing to do with PET scans.

    7. Re:Not so much by dywolf · · Score: 1

      It is completely accurate, simply dumbed down for people who don't know the complete chemical process of metabolizing and utilizing glucose.

      To be absolutely clear, the scientific evidence is clear: NO, consuming less sugar/carbs/glucose does NOT impair tumor growth, NOR does consuming more speed it up. This is established and well known medical information that is only refuted by the likes of NaturalNews and other crank, pseudoscientific purveyors of misinformation.

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  13. Which Parties Are Planning on Total Deregulation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Remind me again which parties have deregulation as their selling point?

  14. I remember by duckintheface · · Score: 2

    I was involved in doing dental research on NIH grants starting in 1976 (39 years ago). There was absolutely no indication that we should not persue the effect of sugar on dental health. OTOH, I did see the tobacco industry funding reseach trying to disprove that smoking stunts your growth.

    There was a major change in the leadership of the National Insitute of Dental Research about 40 years ago so maybe it got cleaned up.

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    1. Re:I remember by Immerman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As phrased it sounds like it wasn't the studies themselves that were discouraged, but their inclusion in national dental policies. Much easier that way - none of those pesky truth-seeking researchers involved at that level. It would hardly be the first time - just look at what the meat and grain lobbies did to the dietary recommendations in the food pyramid - very little grounding in what the research actually recommended there.

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  15. plaque causes dental caries (aka cavities) by slew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although some sugars are worse than others (e.g,. hard candy which sticks to your teeth), just about any carbohydrate you might eat will contribute to plaque (including fruit, vegetables and even whole grains) and indirectly to increased susceptibility to dental caries (how hard your dental enamel is and how acidic your diet is are other contributing factors)...

    You can vilify "refined" sugar and HFCS industries all you want, but equivalent sweetness of organic molasses or maple syrup are probably worse when it comes to plaque contribution to dental caries...

    FWIW, the existing types of studies that target limiting sugar are not correlation studies, basically they are ecological survey studies on population statistics by estimating their sugar intake vs prevalence of cavities at certain points of time. The author was suggesting specific studies that try to address correlation between certain foods and cavities were being suppressed by the sugar industry.

    But back in that time frame of the 60's and 70's people were looking for a vaccine for plaque so interest in such studies may have simply dissipated w/o needing a big conspiracy. This is probably due into a large part of seminal studies on dental caries (in the late part of the 19th century by Miller) that established the link between enamel decay and acids produced by plaque bacteria fed by potato starches (not sugar because it wasn't a wide part of the diet) and later studies in the 1940/50's (by Gustafsson) seemed to indicate the frequency of use of sugars (rather than the quantity of sugars consumed). By the 1960's/70's there were already studies (like Duggal) that implicated snacks like cakes and biscuits (that combined glutinous starch with sugar) which were consumed at higher frequency (more than 3 times per day or basically outside of mealtime) had serious "cariogenic" potential.

    Unsurprisingly, this research wasn't suppressed, but basically ignored by the government panels. Sadly, back in the '70's, it was much easier to pay off people to simply ignore research, than to actually suppress the funding to start research (not knowing the outcome).

    On the other hand, some of the unrepeatable history of dental research sponsored by the sugar industry, such as the one in Vipeholm, Sweden already yielded habits like lördagsgodis. I'm sure the sugar-industrial complex in the US would love for something like that to pop up in the US (and not just restricted to Halloween)...

  16. Settled Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sugar, Lead in gasoline, Asbestos
    What is it going to be 40 years from now? Vaccines? Aspartame? Fluor in water?
    Why do people insist we should believe in "settled science" when its obvious big interests put big money on getting the results they want? Anything else is conspiracy theorist delusion obviously!

  17. Re:Which Parties Are Planning on Total Deregulatio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neither.

  18. In Florida... by drooling-dog · · Score: 1

    ...you're not even allowed to talk about tooth decay.

    1. Re:In Florida... by GreatDrok · · Score: 1

      "...you're not even allowed to talk about tooth decay."

      Because they're all so old they don't have any teeth. Not that they would hear you anyway.

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  19. Re: We should always be skepical. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Or you look at the history of mercury and understand that certain combinations of mercury and other things are dangerous in a single drop.

    However, you could drink liquid mercury and be pretty safe as iit is not readily absorbed through the digestive tract.

    Stop fear mongering unless you have some data. Everything I've stayed above is trivially easy to confirm.

  20. Re: We neeed COMMUNISM now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Desert stom didn't last long enough to cause a recession.

  21. Everyone with cavities has the same problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They all use toothpaste.

    1. Re:Everyone with cavities has the same problem by Sardaukar86 · · Score: 1

      They all use toothpaste.

      No, I do not use toothpaste, but my teeth defiantly continue to develop dental cavities.

      Next baseless assertion?

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  22. We should be outraged ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At any attempt of business meddling with research that meets good science levels of truth.

    Wait another few years for the outrage over pesticides, gmo, & other bad products.

    This includes tech products, Microsoft, Apple, & Oracle.

    Other companies to add to the list

  23. What a surprise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The people who own big companies lie and try to distort science because they place their own profit above the basic needs and rights of everyone else. We saw it with lead, we saw it with sugar (and we're still seeing it a bit with the pushback about high fructose corn syrup), we saw it with tobacco, and we're seeing it now with global warming.

    1. Re:What a surprise! by moeinvt · · Score: 2

      The people that run big corporations are bound by law to maximize the profits of their shareholders. Your subject line says it all. It should come as no surprise that they put profit above all else. What makes you think they give a damn or should give a damn about the "needs and rights of everyone else"?

      By contrast, the government is NOT bound by law to serve corporations. They're supposed to be serving the public. So, who are the bad guys here? The people that are doing exactly what we should expect them to do, or the people that are betraying the public to serve special interests?

  24. Re:We neeed COMMUNISM now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Communism is hell for "equality". It has been tried and it is far worse than capitalism in almost every way.

  25. Federal government = Worse than useless by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    I constantly hear the refrain that we need the federal government and federal regulators to protect us from the evil corporations.

    From what I see, we're paying federal employees to either do nothing (SEC, OTS, CFTC, etc.) or to actively undermine our best interests (BLM, NSA, DofA, FDA, etc.)

    A considerable fraction of federal regulators, especially the financial regulators, either came from or will go to the very companies they are supposed to be regulating! They refuse to enforce the laws for fear of jeopardizing their future employment prospects on Wall St.

    We might as well fire them all as pay them for doing worse than nothing.

  26. Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, what happened? Did our teeth all rot away? No. We became fat. I'm sure the sugar industry wouldn't have wanted that revealed, either, but by suppressing dental policy implications, we got something arguably even worse.