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Obama Administration Wants More Legal Power To Disrupt Botnets

Trailrunner7 writes: The Obama administration has proposed an amendment to existing United Stated federal law that would give it a more powerful tool to go after botnets such as GameOver Zeus, Asprox and others. In recent years, Justice, along with private security firms and law enforcement agencies in Europe, have taken down various incarnations of a number of major botnets, including GameOver Zeus and Coreflood. These actions have had varying levels of success, with the GOZ takedown being perhaps the most effective, as it also had the effect of disrupting the infrastructure used by the CryptoLocker ransomware.

In order to obtain an injunction in these cases, the government would need to sue the defendants in civil court and show that its suit is likely to succeed on its merits. "The Administration's proposed amendment would add activities like the operation of a botnet to the list of offenses eligible for injunctive relief. Specifically, the amendment would permit the department to seek an injunction to prevent ongoing hacking violations in cases where 100 or more victim computers have been hacked. This numerical threshold focuses the injunctive authority on enjoining the creation, maintenance, operation, or use of a botnet, as well as other widespread attacks on computers using malicious software (such as "ransomware" )," assistant attorney general Leslie Caldwell wrote.

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  1. Simple solution, really by Jhon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Declare bot-nets a utility -- then regulate them.

    (ducks and runs)

  2. Really? You think? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Could have stopped at "wants more legal power."

    1. Re:Really? You think? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      do not give them this power!

      they can then 'schwartz you' if they want.

      I would not be surprised if they defined 'botnet' as any automated network job or task. which means anything we do that has any automation to it would be 'against the law'.

      way too much power, here!

      botnets suck but legal means is NOT the way to stop them!

      each time we give the government more legal means to punish, its almost always the wrong 'bad guys' that get punished, like aaron.

      JUST SAY NO to more US laws. we have too many laws already. why they think that adding MORE laws is a good idea, I'll never undertstand. (well, I do understand, but I'll never LIKE it)

      this law, like PATRIOT would be misused eventually. better to not have any law than one that will obviously be misused and probably won't take very long to misuse it, either.

      I'm at the point now where "if you want it, I want you to NOT have it" - meaning, laws that politicians want. if you wanted that, that's enough to show me you don't really deserve it.

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    2. Re:Really? You think? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "do not give them this power!

      they can then 'schwartz you' if they want."

      You are way late, see here about america...

      http://williamblum.org/aer/read/137

      Reason doesn't work the way we thought it does:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

      Most have no clue what's really going on in the world... the elites are afraid of political awakening (aka global revolt). i.e. they fear you stopping voting for politicians and causing social and political change because the democratic system is a sham.

      This (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttv6n7PFniY

      Brezinski at a press conference

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kmUS--QCYY

      The real news:

      http://therealnews.com/t2/

      http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/069114589X/

      http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Government-Surveillance-Security-Single-Superpower/dp/1608463656/

      http://www.amazon.com/National-Security-Government-Michael-Glennon/dp/0190206446/

      Look at the following graphs:

      http://imgur.com/a/FShfb

      http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

      And then...

      WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

      http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-haiti-minimum-wage-the-nation-2011-6

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnkNKipiiiM

      Free markets?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

      Free trade?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju06F3Os64

      http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Illusion-Literacy-Triumph-Spectacle/dp/1568586132/

      "We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

      In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

      Important history:

  3. What about the botnets run by the NSA . . . ? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, the headline could have been simply shortened to: Obama Administration Wants More Legal Power!

    And whatever administration that comes next, will also want more legal power.

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    1. Re:What about the botnets run by the NSA . . . ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And there will be many that will cheer the continual power grab on.
      "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

    2. Re:What about the botnets run by the NSA . . . ? by bondsbw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep. Polarizing party politics causes large numbers of citizens to align with parties even when it means shedding their own morals and desires.

      Just to keep this in perspective, this is largely how the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (Nazi party) gained power. Of course, that's not to say it has anything to do with what was done with that power. But that's the beauty of power... all it takes is allowing a true lunatic to gain that power and we might be in for another world war.

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  4. Government should be a coordinator, not the hammer by Aqualung812 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you have a malicious device connected to an ISP, the ISP should be the one to disconnect it. The problem is that the target of the malicious device is often on another ISP.

    Rather than allowing the government to be the hammer and force people offline, the government should create a coordination point where attacks can be reported and the proper ISP and their customers alerted to the activity.

    One of the activities could be creating OSS that allows for firewall logs to send attack information to this central resource.

    Another could be creating a help page that assists end users with understanding why they're having this issue and how to correct it.

    Finally, proposing a Internet remediation zone would be the best end result. Instead of pulling the cord on infected devices, put them on a standard ACL/web filter that only allows them to software updates and AV signatures.

    These are harder tasks for any one ISP to do, but a good thing for government to do.

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  5. Save us! Something must be done! by P3r1$c0p3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    DoJ has declaired that all computers must join the Federal Botnet so they can't be absorbed into other botnets under a new executive order by the president. In other news, a large new botnet is reaking havoc on the internet. President Obama seeks new powers to deal with this emergent threat. Attacks have increased since the formation of the FedNet, and law enforcement is puzzled as to where the attacks are originating. Homeland Security has requested 900 billion dollars to meet this new mystery threat. This report brought to you by Dumbidum the perscription drug that makes you dumber and believe anything the television says. Side effects include obesity, diabetes, general statements with no meaning, defence of the liberal postion, defence of the conservative postion, divorce, screwed up kids who don't know what gender they are, rectal cancer, and death.

  6. Remediation zone by Aqualung812 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Man, the more I think of it, I REALLY like the idea of a standard remediation zone that all ISPs could deploy.

    DNS would be filtered, only DNS responses to hosts on the allowed list. I would even be ok with MitM changes to DNS queries in this case.

    Again, the idea is that you are only placed in this zone when your device has attacked another.
    Once you think you've fixed the issue, they could allow all DNS traffic again, but watch your traffic to see if the attacks resume. This could be automated, so the end user doesn't have to constantly call the ISP.

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  7. I'm OK with it ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

    ... this ransomware shit is tiresome and needs to be hammered into the ground. I can't find the bastards but the government can't hide a fucking thing.

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  8. News Flash by MitchDev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People in Hell want ice water...

    Government always wants more power....

  9. Obama Wants More Legal Power To Disrupt Botnets by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So can we now expect the Republicans declare to a crusade to promote the creation of botnets? ...or have I misunderstood how American democracy works these days?

    1. Re:Obama Wants More Legal Power To Disrupt Botnets by blue9steel · · Score: 2

      More likely botnet operators will be labeled "job creators" and given tax breaks. Amusement aside, I'm not opposed to this idea in general but I'd want there to be a strong judicial process around it and some sort of civilian review and oversight of the program long term.

  10. First... by funwithBSD · · Score: 2

    they came for the Botnets.

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