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Elon Musk Pledges To End "Range Anxiety" For Tesla Model S

An anonymous reader writes: Elon Musk has used his Twitter account to announce a press conference on Thursday which he claims will end "range anxiety" for Tesla's Model S sedan. Whatever change they're making will be implemented through an over-the-air software update to the cars, affecting the entire fleet. Range anxiety is the term for a fear that your vehicle won't have enough fuel/charge to reach its destination. It's a common reason for people to avoid buying electric cars, given the much smaller infrastructure build-out compared to gas stations. If Tesla is improving the Model S's range through a software update, then it likely involves optimizations to the battery and to the ways in which power is used. Tesla has also talked about developing a feature called "torque sleep," which puts one of the drive units to sleep while not needed. They say it can wake up and begin delivering torque again "so fast that the driver can't perceive it."

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  1. Or, it could be unrelated to actually extending by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. range. For example, more charging stations and/or a better locator (perhaps with a partnership with a nationwide chain of stores or two), better range calculation, a service to have charging trucks come out to you to you should you run out of charge (maybe even heading to the point where you would run out of charge before it even happens so that there's no wait), or all sorts of other possibilities. There's no guarantee that it actually means more range.

    Of course, it could mean that.

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    1. Re:Or, it could be unrelated to actually extending by itsdapead · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course, it could mean that.

      No - your suggestions are all better. Unless they're going to download new laws of physics to the cars, the sort of incremental range improvement that a software update might bring is hardly going to end "range anxiety". Range anxiety isn't so much about the absolute range - its about the scarcity of recharging stations c.f. petrol, the time taken to recharge, the uncertainty of the quoted range and the need to be towed to a recharge station if you do run out.

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    2. Re:Or, it could be unrelated to actually extending by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the tipping point for electric vehicle range would be 1000 miles on one charge. Yes that is 2 to 4 times as much as most cars, however, the charging time for an electric car is much longer than gasoline, So in order for you to have a car good for all purposes ( Not an electric car for your commute, and a gas car for long trips ) 1000 range, means you can drive for 16 hours then take 8 hours (when you are sleeping ) to charge up.

      I think this 1000 mile per charge should be a goal for Electric auto makers. That or they need to need to match the charge time to a refueling time, and have at least 250 miles per charge.

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  2. Predictive behavior and minor User Input by cloud.pt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In order to stop drivers from micromanaging their ranges, is just to let a user know how likely is he to run out of juice, right off the bat when he starts his journey. A simple voice request from the car speech synthesizer, asking for a city, a street, or something not very specific which can be used for broad calculations, and then let the user know: "You might have not enough battery to go/come back home"/"You can make a round trip 8 times to that destination"/"You might run out of juice but there's a supercharger nearby, would you like me to reserve a spot for you at hh:mm AM/PM?"

  3. Re:The answer has been known for over 100 years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Internal combustion doesn't solve anything. It require an infrastructure that isn't there, and that nobody wants to build. Electricity however, is everywhere. Every home & business have electricity. So you can charge an electric car anywhere. Not so if you run out of gas and you aren't at a gas station. A few people store gasoline at home, most people & businesses doesn't. Gas will never be as easily available as electricity. Especially now that peak oil is coming up.

    Oh, you can easily avoid running out of gas by filling at a gas station before it gets too low. As anyone knows. But this little trick (planning ahead) works equally well for electric cars - and they have so many more filling places available.

  4. Re:No, it couldn't. Read the post. by PhilHibbs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That says nothing about extending range. It talks about ending range anxiety. Which could be, for isntance, adjusting the sat nav so it calculates how much further you can drive before you go out of range of the nearest charging station.

  5. Re:feels manufactured. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Whining about Jeremy Clarkson "ruining" the reputation of electric cars is like whining that Jerry Seinfeld ruined the reputation of airline food.

    They're fucking comedians, dude. The only people taking Clarkson's jokes seriously are people with no sense of humor.

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  6. Re:Impossible by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please tell me, where can I charge my Tesla S in 10 minutes or less along the corridor from Atlanta to New York, because I am certainly not going to make it from Atlanta to New York without charging.

    This is not range anxiety, this is practical realism.

    No, it's making up special cases to prove your point.

    There are places out west that a proper petro fueled vehicle owner will suffer the same anxiety.

    Hell, once on a Sunday trip in Pennsylvania on my motorcycle the one gas station along my remote route where I planned to refuel my motorcycle had closed. Want to talk about range anxiety?

    Three points 1. Range anxiety is most definitely not confined to the Spawn of Satan Tesla. I have relatives who start sweating at 3/4 a tank of proper gasoline fuel.

    2. Making up special cases is silly, like looking down on people who drive car, because you want to haul stuff, therefore why would anyone want to get a car rather than a pickup truck? All vehicles have their purposes, and maybe not everyone needs to go from Atlanta to New York with only 10 minutes to spare. You need to take a gas guzzler across the western desert some time.

    3. Don't want a Tesla? No problem - don't buy one. Just because you have to have a vehicle that has to meet certain specifications doesn't mean that everyone has to. Your major issue is infrastructure, which is easily addressed over time. As the infrastructure improves, we'll see the recharge issue start to go away. Don't forget that at one time, horses had a better refueling infrastructure than petrofueled vehicles. Of course, at that point you would probably be decrying those gasoline powered vehhicles you defend so much today.

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