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Boeing Patents Star Wars Style Force Field Technology

An anonymous reader was one of many to point out that Boeing doesn't want to rely on a sad devotion to an ancient religion to protect aircraft and conjure up the stolen data tapes, but plans on using force fields instead. "Boeing's new patent may let the force be with you even in real life. The aircraft and defense company has taken a cue from science fiction with its plan to develop a Star Wars style force field that would use energy to deflect any potential damage. Just liking the luminescent shields seen in the film, Boeing's "Method and system for shock wave attenuation via electromagnetic arc" could provide a real-life layer of protection from nearby impacts to targets. The downside: It won't protect from direct hits."

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  1. You mean...? by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So really more like deflector shields.

    1. Re:You mean...? by halivar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, in Star Wars they are called deflector shields, after all.

    2. Re:You mean...? by grimmjeeper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be fair, the A-Wing only got through AFTER they brought down the bridge deflector screens and intensifying forward batteries so that nothing could get through didn't really work out for them.

    3. Re:You mean...? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, technically they didn't even have time to intensify the forward batteries fire before Arvel Crynyd came in for a visit.

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  2. Prototype by Luthair · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shouldn't they need a working prototype to patent this? Oh well, I guess at least the patent will be expired before these devices actually exist.

    1. Re:Prototype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This one's pretty simple. Use an electric arc to destroy the air between you and the approaching shockwave. This leaves no medium for the shockwave to propagate. I wouldn't assume too strongly don't have a working prototype.

    2. Re:Prototype by robbyb20 · · Score: 2

      Ditto. I know I dont possess all the knowledge of the patent system but I have a strong feeling that one of the key pieces to patent something is to have a working prototype. I guess its not a requirement but it should be!

    3. Re:Prototype by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

      He just described it incorrectly. You don't have to be a douche about it. It ionizes a small area of the air, creating a 'plasma field' (their words) that disrupts the shock wave.

    4. Re:Prototype by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      Seems like George Lucas can claim prior art maybe.

    5. Re:Prototype by museumpeace · · Score: 2

      good question. If you have a laser strong enough to instantly ionize a patch of air between you and an exploding munition [we are talking milliseconds for the whole show here!] that itself must create a shock wave as the super-heated air expands more or less into what we would perceive as an explosion. I am hoping the Boeing Boeing engineers have some proof the cure is better than the disease, so to speak.
      If you can shape the surface of the discontinuity in gas density by this method, you could cause a lensing effect that redirected the shock wave but you cannot get rid of energy by adding energy to it. If you manage to create an underpressure that coincides with the overpressure of the munition, that will happen at a certain point and will require an energy density on a par with the munition if you mean to protect by a cancellation of superimposed pressure waves. And watch out for your side lobes...the cancellation would be localized while elsewhere in the battle an addition would occur.

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    6. Re:Prototype by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its certainly not however a stealth technology,

      I'd assume you don't need stealth technology when you're at the point of deflecting enemy fire. They obviously already know where you are.

    7. Re:Prototype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm waiting for rock bands to start using it for speakers! ;)

      So, can Douglass Adams' estate claim prior art via Disaster Zone?

    8. Re:Prototype by bane2571 · · Score: 2

      I know when my stuff turns into plasma I consider it pretty destroyed,

    9. Re:Prototype by Fnord666 · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure the plume of molten copper of an RPG couldn't give a crap about a shockwave.

      Actually I believe it does. Thats the whole principle behind reactive armor. My understanding is that the detonation of the armor produces a counter shockwave that disrupts the precisely shaped detonation of the warhead and the plume ends up splashing rather than boring through.

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  3. The downside: It won't protect from direct hits." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    direct hit: That's where everybody moves side to side in unison and then falls to the floor.

    Then some panel blows and sparks fly everywhere - why they stopped using fuses in the future is anyone's guess.

    And the guy in he red shirt will be dead. All others will be just unconscious.

    Shit! Wrong franchise!

  4. Read the Damn Articles by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

    This isn't a force field it's a point defense system.

    The system can sense when a shock wave generating explosion occurs near a target. An arc generator then determines the small area where protection is needed from the shock waves.It then springs into action by by emitting laser pulses that ionize the air, providing a laser-induced plasma field of protection from the shock waves.

    1. Re:Read the Damn Articles by cavreader · · Score: 2

      The Israelis have actually deployed a point defense system on some of their troop carriers. It uses a direct hit munition to intercept the incoming projectile, a munition that explodes creating a shock wave to stop incoming projectiles in a wide area, and electronic counter measures to disrupt guided munitions.

    2. Re:Read the Damn Articles by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 2

      At the moment most battles aren't fought in space.

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  5. Hyped marketing by meustrus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is Sci-Fi because somebody in marketing thought they could get more buzz if they called it that. It deflects shockwaves, not projectiles. Then again who knows; maybe the blasters in Star Wars just make photon shockwaves? But this just looks like trademark infringement to me.

    The sad thing is their clickbait worked. But a shockwave deflector shield is pretty neat tech anyway.

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    1. Re:Hyped marketing by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 4, Funny

      We urgently need a deflector that will shield us from click-bait. And look as good as Uhura in a miniskirt!

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    2. Re:Hyped marketing by tool462 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Uhura in a miniskirt" is the ultimate click-bait, and it's not even a link!
      This was the most perfect, organic opportunity for a rick-roll in years.

      Geek card revoked, Ms. Thwacks. Geek card revoked.

  6. Such a bad summary by steveha · · Score: 5, Informative

    Star Wars features force fields that can, for example, hold the air in a spacecraft hangar even while a spacecraft flies out.

    Boeing has developed a technology where lasers fire a burst of energy to turn air into plasma, causing a shock wave. When sensors detect an incoming pressure wave (from an explosion or whatever) this system creates a counter-wave.

    Even when I squint and wave my hands a lot, those two things don't look much alike.

    The prior art on this is not Star Wars, but reactive tank armor.

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    1. Re:Such a bad summary by Sibko · · Score: 2

      Actually, force fields that can hold back air from vacuum (or another atmosphere) while letting spacecraft (or other things, including light) fly out, are a real thing known as plasma windows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      They take a lot of energy to produce, however.

    2. Re:Such a bad summary by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      fire a burst of energy to turn air into plasma, causing a shock wave.

      Except the aren't creating a shock wave to counter the incoming wave. They're changing the density, pressure or composition of the medium (air or water) the shock wave is going to pass through, attenuating it.

      Have a read of the summary in the patent.

      Countering a shock wave with a generated one would be horribly complex. You'd need to measure the wave first or risk amplifying it further. You'd need to generate it at in the exact same time and place you want to counter it, or your own shock wave is going to hit you with the same force as the one you're trying to stop. A tiny error in timing will see twice the damage inflicted on yourself - like the current humidity, air temperature and pressure - all things that contribute to the velocity of the shock wave.

  7. Re:Star Wars? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the prequels, we saw them on the Naboo fighter ships. Also, don't forget the destroyer droids with their bubble shields, and the Gungans with their animal-mounted battlefield shields, and even hand-held shields. There are plenty more examples from the next two movies as well.

    In the original trilogy, I don't recall seeing the shields themselves, but both the rebels (on Hoth) and the empire (on Endor) protected their assets with large, ground-based shield generators. There are also references in the dialogue as well ("Switch your deflectors on - double front!").

    You really blocked out a lot, didn't you...

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  8. Don't they mean... by Sir+Holo · · Score: 2

    Don't they mean Star Trek?

    What 'reporter' says it's like "Star" anything? The claimed invention is dependent upon a shock wave traveling through air (by laser beam-induced plasma local heating). . . No one can hear you scream in space, y'know.

    Oh, I see, it's the same 'reporter' that can't tell the difference between a preposition and a gerund. FTA: "Just liking the luminescent shields seen in the film...

    1. Re:Don't they mean... by Sowelu · · Score: 2

      At this point I don't think it's a reference to how it operates, exactly. I think it's more a callback to the Star Wars missile defense project in the Reagan era, or at least that's how it would resonate with people who followed politics back then.

  9. last I heard by neghvar1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last time I heard about force fields and deflector shields, we created a wormhole, made the USS Eldridge disappear, and caused a bunch of navy personnel to get embedded in the bulkhead of the ship

  10. Re:The downside: It won't protect from direct hits by phorm · · Score: 2

    Yeah, in this case all the guys in the white plastic uniforms will die instead as the reactor core blows due to a direct hit on the one small weakness in the design...

  11. Re:The downside: It won't protect from direct hits by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

    The lack of seatbelts makes sense. If you're on a spaceship that can accelerate quickly enough to turn everyone into a fine paste and relies on inertial dampeners (adjustments of the artificial gravity) to prevent this, then there aren't many situations where you'll need a seatbelt: either the inertial dampeners are preventing you from needing them, or you're dead. The problem is that the drama needed the ship to seem to shake. It's the same issue as feeling the ship warm up as you get close to a star: it makes for good drama, but the difference between 'humans are comfortable' and 'humans are on fire' is tiny compared to the difference between 'humans are comfortable' and 'nuclear fusion is happening' - it's far more likely that the shields would work fine and no one would be discomforted right up until the point where much of the ship vaporised.

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