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Draconian Australian Research Law Hits Scientists

An anonymous reader writes: The Australian government is pushing ahead with a draconian law placing "dual use" science (e.g. encryption, biotechnology) under the control of the Department of Defence. The Australian ACLU, Civil Liberties Australia, warns the law punishes scientists with $400,000 fines, 10 years in jail and forfeiture of their work, just for sending an "inappropriate" e-mail.

Scientists — including the academics union — warn the laws are unworkable despite attempted improvements, and will drive researchers offshore (paywalled: mirror here).

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  1. The stupid is strong with these people! by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they criminalize research and communication regarding IT security, they will soon be without it. That is basically suicide in today's Internet.

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    1. Re:The stupid is strong with these people! by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The reason for the law "The DTCA is intended to simplify trade between Australia, the US and the UK" that being imports from the US and UK. So yeah, it basically kills research in Australia on purpose, to force it into import only mode, to ensure those other two countries can buy primary resources and lots of land with funny money from two countries rapidly sliding into bankruptcy. Note the same political party is looking to raise university fees to US levels and open market the education loans. Australians are only meant to be servants for the future owners of Australia (after he made sure his daughter got a scholarship from a soon to be fully funded private university and a no work job and the person who tattled, to ensure they aligned with US styled freedom of information, was prosecuted). They did fund medical research though, but want to make big cuts universal health care, the rich only will get the use of Australian tax payer funded medical research.

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    2. Re:The stupid is strong with these people! by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are not wrong on that. My impression is that governments are so afraid of their population, that they are willing to risk losing it all. Paranoids make the absolutely worst leaders, yet these seem to be what rises to the top.

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  2. Well, I guess they don't need to do any science... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Per a spokesweasel(in TFA): "Some academic research uses proliferation-sensitive controlled goods and technologies. While the sensitive items are used for legitimate civilian research by Australian researchers, they can also be used for the proliferation of military, nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. "

    Notice anything odd? The word 'military' shows up along the usual trio of "nuclear, chemical, biological". Last I checked, the boundaries of 'military weapons' were very, very, broad, running the gamut from fancy-nuclear-power aerospace widgetry to relatively crude hand-fabricated small arms more or less loosely based on designs dating back to the first half of the 20th century, if not older.

    Is there some stricter definition of 'military weapons' that makes this slightly less ridiculous, or are they in fact export-controlling basically any tech you could conceivably integrate into a weapon in some fashion, including weapons already extremely widely available, adequately functional with downright crude technology, and otherwise utterly absurd to pretend are still within the reach of counter-proliferation efforts?

  3. Wouldn't it be nice by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if there were some foundational document that codified your right to both military weapons and speech of all sorts, and prohibited the government from passing laws restricting either.

  4. Somebody in Australia wants a scientist exodus! by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Australian geeks and scientists: The weather is also nice in Silicon Valley, and they pay better. Do you really need another reason to leave?

    1. Re:Somebody in Australia wants a scientist exodus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is that a joke? Why would educated aussies working in one of those fields want to go to the US?

      There are so many better options that suggesting the US is laughable. I'll stay in Aus anyday rather than go there. If I moved, there are about a dozen better options if not more.

      You keep pretending that USA is the height of humanity, burying your head in the sand and acting like an arrogant cunt works so well.

  5. Re:Does fosters beer by dohzer · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I take it you missed the article saying that no consumption of alcohol is good for you, and the previous studies failed to take other factors into account before announcing their findings that alcohol could be beneficial?

  6. Or it's a recipie for selective enforcement by Uberbah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whisteblowers have been sent to Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Penitentiaries under the odious Espionage Act at a higher rate under Obama than all previous presidents combined.

    But Petraeus, who casually flashed Specially Compartmented Information - a much higher classification than any of the Top Secret information released by Manning to Wikilieaks - just to impress his mistress, will only face probation.

    Or the cable operator who was sentenced to years in jail for carrying a Hezbollah tv channel, because it's on a State Department list of terror groups, while at the same time prominent politicians from both parties openly accepted large amounts of money from MEK to lobby on the group's behalf. A group also....on the State Departments list of terror groups.

    So we could see the same thing in Australia. Defense contractors will be free to skirt the law and sell to any shifty customer. People who annoy the state, though, will feel the full force of the law.

  7. Re:Same here in the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There is no left and right in US politics, only very conservative and extremely conservative.