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Scientists Create Permanently Slick Surface So Ketchup Won't Stay In Bottle

HughPickens.com writes Much of what we buy never makes it out of the container and is instead thrown away — up to a quarter of skin lotion, 16 percent of laundry detergent and 15 percent of condiments like mustard and ketchup. Now Kenneth Chang reports at the NYT that scientists have just solved one of life's little problems — how to get that last little bit of ketchup (or glue) out of a bottle. Using a coating that makes the inside of the bottle permanently wet and slippery, glue quickly slides to the nozzle or back down to the bottom. The technology could have major environmental payoffs by reducing waste. Superhydrophobic surfaces work similar to air hockey tables. Tiny peaks and valleys on the surface create a thin layer of air between the liquid and the coating. The air decreases friction, so the liquid almost levitates above the surface, just like the hockey puck floats above the table. LiquiGlide's approach is similar, but it uses a liquid lubricant, not a gas. "What could be a solution that provides sort of universal slipperiness?" says Dr. Varanasi. "The idea we had was, Why not think about trapping a liquid in these features?" Dr. Varanasi and Mr. Smith worked out a theory to predict interactions among the surface, the lubricant and air. Essentially, the lubricant binds more strongly to the textured surface than to the liquid, and that allows the liquid to slide on a layer of lubricant instead of being pinned against the surface, and the textured surface keeps the lubricant from slipping out. "We're not defying physics, but effectively, we are," says Smith.

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  1. How is this new? by dorpus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen these sorts of videos for at least 5 years now. Where are the commercial products?

    1. Re:How is this new? by xnerd00x · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is absolutely no incentive for Heinz to put this into their bottles. This means people will spend less on average on ketchup per year since they can get every last bit out of the bottle. I know it may not seem like much, but multiply it by millions of bottles sold and it adds up to a hefty hit on their bottom line.

    2. Re:How is this new? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're thinking about it all wrong.

      You turn it over, half the bottle dumps onto your food. You have to buy twice as much. Effectively they can increase food waste, and therefore sales, under the guise of environmentalism. Sure, we'll help you get every last drop ... just all at once.

      I know the last thing my wife wants is for me to have the mustard come out of the bottle any faster. I always end up with far too much as it is. ;-)

      If the ketchup came out faster we'd be doomed.

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    3. Re:How is this new? by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They'll sell smaller bottles for the same price, and they'll enjoy lower shipping prices. Win-win, kinda.

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    4. Re:How is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know the last thing my wife wants is for me to have the mustard come out of the bottle any faster.

      That's what she said!

      Heyoooooooo!

    5. Re:How is this new? by Caitlin2013D · · Score: 2

      Can totally see this. People expecting it to stick in restaurants. Turn it over and instinctively hit the bottom. Entire bottle on plate!

    6. Re:How is this new? by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      Yes there is. Competition. Absent collusion, someone will implement it in an attempt to gain or maintain market share. I'm not saying the free market is a panacea, but that's the incentive, and I suspect it's compelling enough in this case.

    7. Re:How is this new? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      That won't happen. Ketchup is a non-newtonian fluid: its viscosity changes with shear force, and so it refuses to flow until adequate force is applied. That's why ketchup doesn't leave the bottle with gentle force, but spurts out when squeezed. It will retain its shape just fine until forced out.

      Heinz will collapse as a company and be bought by Kraft or something stupid while Hunts goes on to advertise to housewives that they can get that last squirt with their bottle.

    8. Re:How is this new? by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm wondering, is this the next round of BPA /phthalates that we find are bad for us?

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    9. Re:How is this new? by DutchUncle · · Score: 4, Informative

      You have it backwards. Heinz is buying Kraft. http://fortune.com/2015/03/24/...

    10. Re:How is this new? by jeffmeden · · Score: 3

      In the history of "conservation" no one has managed to turn the ability to use less of a product, into the *practice* of using less of a product. How often do you let the empty ketchup bottle "ride" in the fridge and squeeze a few faint drops on each hot dog hoping to get the last of it, while really only putting 1/10th your normal amount on? Yep. Now, you can get your full ketchup fix on time, every time. And when the bottle is gone it's gone, no more "maybe one more blob of salt-tomato-vinegar heaven, if I shake it just right!" instead, it's on to the next new bottle, and the next full load of ketchup on your bratwurst, and even BETTER sales for Kraft/Heinz.

      Further reading: energy efficiency != energy conservation: http://freakonomics.com/2015/0...

    11. Re:How is this new? by taiwanjohn · · Score: 2

      There's a very simple solution to the ketchup bottle problem: turn it sideways.

      Most people hold the ketchup bottle vertically upside down over their plate and slap the bottom to make the ketchup come out. This doesn't work very well. Instead you hold the bottle horizontally over your plate and hit the side, so that there's plenty of room for air to enter the bottle while the ketchup flows out. Works every time. Try it.

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    12. Re:How is this new? by grimmjeeper · · Score: 2

      Ah, the fond memories...

  2. Ketchup was never a problem ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    We just mixed a little vinegar in to get the last of the bottle and slop it on our french fries.

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    1. Re:Ketchup was never a problem ... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

      When there's a little left in the bottle I just store it upside down so that when I go to use it all of the ketchup, mustard, etc is right at the cover. I can't understand how people are wasting 15%.

    2. Re:Ketchup was never a problem ... by fisted · · Score: 3, Informative

      1. Verify bottle is closed
      2. Hold bottle at the bottom
      3. Make a sudden, whipping movement with your arm, alternatively windmill it around.
      4. ???
      5. Physics! It works, bitches!
      (6. Hold horizontally when opening)

    3. Re:Ketchup was never a problem ... by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Funny

      4. ???

      (4) is "realize you should have been holding the bottle more tightly during step 3 -- go to find the mop and broom"

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  3. Oh sure... by the_skywise · · Score: 2

    and like BPA plastic coatings I'm sure it'll be completely harmless to us... for now...

    1. Re:Oh sure... by rnturn · · Score: 2

      Yes but ketchup manufacturers (Big Ketchup?) paid the researchers to figure out the ketchup bottle problem. Not our long-term health. That problem is dumped by Big Ketchup into the FDA's lap who'll then turn around and ask Big Ketchup to study the problem for 90 days and, if nobody dies of cancer during that time, will deem the super slippery ketchup bottles safe. Unless the FDA decides that they can fast track the approval process because the American People need this product as soon as possible.

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    2. Re:Oh sure... by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Funny

      the coatings are derived from edible materials

      Allegedly so are hotdogs and white bread.

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  4. Again? by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I thought they did this years ago.

    1. Re:Again? by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 2

      MIT was showing this off awhile ago and I *believe* they sold it to DuPont... you can buy it in cans to coat things like boots. I think the innovation here is that they've made the coating either tougher so it won't abate over time and/or they've figured out how to make it food safe... I can't imagine making your insides hydrophobic would be that good for you...

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  5. The news isn't that it's been created... by berchca · · Score: 5, Informative

    We already knew it existed, as reported on Slashdot back in May of 2012:
    http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/05/23/2240213/mit-creates-superhydrophobic-condiment-bottles

    The news here is that it's finally being commercialized.

  6. Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, if you could do this on the outside of condoms you'd put Wet and Astroglide out of business. ;-)

    Introducing, everslide ... our slipperiest condoms evar.

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  7. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

    First, everything is a chemical.

    But more importantly, there is no such thing as superfluous genitalia.

  8. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We don't need more chemicals in our packaged food products.

    Brace yourself, but most people who consume packaged food products have little concern over any chemicals in them.

  9. But by synapse7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does it cause cancer in California?

  10. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by MisterLawyer · · Score: 2

    I hate to break it to you, but your packaged food products are already 100% comprised of chemicals. https://youtu.be/xV_4EA-wrPc?t...

  11. Recycling by hammeraxe · · Score: 2

    Multi layered packaging (such as ketchup bottles or juice cartons) is already notoriously difficult to recycle. Can't imagine this helps... At least you can rinse out the leftover ketchup.

  12. Ketchup bottles? by mariox19 · · Score: 2

    How about coating the insides of our arteries with something like that!

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    1. Re:Ketchup bottles? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Great, then you'd have an artificial version of hemophilia, wouldn't you? The slightest nick and you'd bleed out?

      Reminds me of some diet product from years ago that got pulled due to excessive rectal seepage.

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  13. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    Brace yourself, but most people who consume packaged food products have little concern over any chemicals in them.

    The corollary to this is most people who consume packges chemicals have very little concern if there is any actual food products in them.

    I recently saw "imitation American-style cheese food slices". Now, "American" "cheese" isn't legally cheese in most of the world. So what the fsck is imitation artificial cheese?

    I'm not even sure it had any dairy in it.

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  14. Oh yeah, this'll get picked up by MattGWU · · Score: 2

    'Reducing waste', from the point of view is actually 'reducing sales'. Product that is 'wasted' is merely product bought and never used. Reducing this 'waste' will reduce their sales volume.

    I'm sure they're all eager to jump on something that will reduce sales, no matter how much consumers would like it.

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  15. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by camperdave · · Score: 2

    Slices of actual cheddar?

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  16. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by StikyPad · · Score: 2

    You say that now, but wait until you have a penis growing out of your forehead.

    I literally cannot wait for that.

  17. save water! by ralphsiegler · · Score: 2

    sci fi novel "The Mote in God's Eye" had frictionless toilet that didn't need water. I already thought of way of keeping sewer odor out of house without water trap.

  18. On the contrary... by elgatozorbas · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know it may not seem like much, but multiply it by millions of bottles sold and it adds up to a hefty hit on their bottom line.

    You are completely correct. In the past Heinz has even been caught cheating by underfilling their ketchup bottles.

  19. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't be a dickhead

  20. Re:Coating causes growth of superfluous genitalia by sexconker · · Score: 2

    I recently saw "imitation American-style cheese food slices". Now, "American" "cheese" isn't legally cheese in most of the world. So what the fsck is imitation artificial cheese?

    I'm not even sure it had any dairy in it.

    "American" cheese is a very mild cheddar with a low melting point. It is actual cheese.

  21. How to get 99% of ketchup out of the bottle by renergy · · Score: 2

    Suppose you have almost empty bottle of ketchup. The following procedure works

    1) close the bottle, turn it upside down with one hand
    2) tap the bottle (2 or 3 times) to the other hand, while holding it upside down, to move the ketchup from the bottom to the (inside) walls of the bottle
    3) Stand the bottle on its cap
    4) let it stand for ~20 minutes
    5) most of the ketchup will slowly slide to the bottom, leaving the sides almost clean - try it to see it
    6) carefully open the cap while still upside down, empty the ketchup on a plate
    7) enjoy the ketchup

    This procedure leaves only ~1% - at most - in the bottle. Could not believe how well the ketchup slide down. All it needs is a bit of time - really 20 minutes or so, it is not instantaneous.

    1. Re:How to get 99% of ketchup out of the bottle by volmtech · · Score: 2

      #6 In warmer climes the air has expanded in the bottle expelling the last bit with explosive force. There is no careful, just a blast of ketchup.

  22. Laundry detergent waste? by Dereck1701 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "16 percent of laundry detergent"

    If you're wasting that much laundry detergent you're doing something very wrong. I use liquid and when the bottle runs dry I take a few cupfuls of water out of the washer and put it in the bottle, give it a few shakes and then dump it straight into the wash. I doubt more than 0.1% manages to stick to crevices in the pour spout. Even if you didn't do that I have a hard time believing that more than 3% sticks to the sides of the bottle. With your average bottle 16% is more than 5 loads worth of detergent still in the bottle.