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Modern Cockpits: Harder To Invade But Easier To Lock Up

HughPickens.com writes: Jad Mouawad And Christopher Drew write in the NY Times that although airplane cockpits are supposed to be the last line of defense from outside aggressors, airlines have fewer options if the threat comes from within. One of the major safety protocols that actually made planes safer in the past 15 years was that the cockpits were turned into fortresses. Unfortunately, that exact advantage was exploited by the co-pilot of the Germanwings plane on Tuesday to crash it intentionally. "It is shocking to me that there was not a second person present in the cockpit," says Mark Rosenker, a former chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board. Access to the cockpit is strictly regulated in the United States. Passengers are not allowed to congregate near the cockpit door, and whenever the door is open, no one is allowed in the forward bathroom and flight attendants usually block aisle access, sometimes using a food cart. The Federal Aviation Administration mandates that a flight attendant must sit in the cockpit when either pilot steps into the passenger area; European regulations do not have a similar two-person rule, but they're now talking about creating one.

The Germanwings accident also points to potential shortcomings in how pilots are screened for mental problems, a recurring concern for an industry that demands focus and discipline in an increasingly technical job, often in stressful situations. In 2012, a well-regarded pilot with JetBlue, one of the airline's earliest employees, was physically restrained by passengers on a flight from New York to Las Vegas after displaying erratic behavior. In that case, the co-pilot locked the pilot out of the cabin and made an emergency landing in Amarillo, Tex. "Aircraft-assisted pilot suicides," as the Federal Aviation Administration calls them, are rare. They include the November 2013 crash of a Mozambique Airlines plane bound for Luanda, Angola, which bears an eerie resemblance to the Germanwings plane's demise. When the flight's co-pilot left to use the lavatory, the captain locked him out of the cockpit and manually steered the aircraft earthward. The crash of Egypt Airlines Flight 990 off Nantucket, Mass., in 1999, which killed all 217 people on board, was also caused by deliberate action, a National Transportation Safety Board investigation concluded. Experts on suicide say that the psychology of those who combine suicide with mass murder may differ in significant ways from those who limit themselves to taking their own lives.

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  1. Ummmm ... duh? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, after 9/11 they rushed to put door locks on the damned things.

    And, now, to the utter shock and amazement of everybody ... someone in the cockpit can lock people out of it. Exactly as they designed it.

    I'm stunned, I tell 'ya.

    Of course, now when the pilot has to take a leak there is one less cabin crew, which I'm sure you can construct a scenario in which that's not a good idea.

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    1. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And, of course, we can construct the scenario in which the co-pilot and one of the cabin crew conspires so that when the pilot has to take a leak it's the two of them in the cockpit, and then they can do the same damned thing.

      There's really no way you can 100% prevent this kind of thing.

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    2. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess they thought narcissistic arseholes were more of a problem in the US.

      Then they'd obviously never been to Paris.

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    3. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gee, and one wonders why people might not be forthcoming with their doctors.

      As soon as you say "fuck doctor patient confidentiality" then WTF would you expect people to tell doctors anything for?

      So then the next thing you'd say is priests and lawyers should also not have confidentiality, because that would be inconvenient.

      Essentially, you are saying "it should be illegal to have secrets from the state".

      Think hard about what you're actually saying.

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    4. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It appears this German guy knew that, and was hiding his problems from his employer and the regulatory agencies that license his operation of giant passenger aircraft.

      So what happens when you remove doctor patient confidentiality? The other depressed people will not see them and will still fly, only without having received psychiatric help or medication. That makes the risk larger, not smaller.

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    5. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by AlejoHausner · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I might agree with you, if mental-health diagnoses had any predictive power. But suicides are pretty much impossible to predict. Just because someone is diagnosed as clinically depressed does not tell you that they will commit suicide tomorrow. And there are perfectly well-adjusted people who kill themselves because, say, they have a terminal illness.

      You also can't, in any reliable way, predict that someone will kill others.

      Not to mention unconscious forces. The typical murderer doesn't know that he will kill tomorrow. But some violent rage may arise, triggered by some unforeseen incident. Sure, there are pre-meditated murders, but they are rare, and their very rarity makes the justice system punish them more severely.

      Doctors can't predict that you will cause harm tomorrow. You yourself can't predict it, because you don't know what's really going on in your head. So let's not make everyone's life a pain by trying to prevent the unpredictable.

      The next thing you know, they're going to make us take our shoes off at the airport because someone put a bomb in his shoe, or make us buy tiny bottles of shampoo because someone maybe planned to make explosives from liquid reagents in flight. Oh wait, such over-reactions have already taken place!

    6. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The very lack of them finding the plane (MH370) at all means that it more than not it did not crash

      No - They haven't found the plane because of the size of the search area.

      I'm surprised how few people seem to get this.

      The search area is choppy, stormy ocean and is the size of Australia. To put that in perspective, here's a map of Australia overlaid on the USA:

      http://keithooper.smugmug.com/...

      So imagine you're looking for a seat cushion in Nevada that's bobbing on the water in Illinois.

    7. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Would this not merely cause people to avoid psychiatric care?

      In the case of pilots, there is a legal requirement for the pilot to get checked out medically on a regular basis. For US airline pilots the maximum time between medical checkouts is six months.

      However, that statement is completely orthogonal to the other problem, which is that many people who could pass a psychiatric assessment kill themselves or others, and a large number of people who would come out of a psychiatric assessment with a big thick file of observed problems are perfectly reliable individuals in their daily lives and would likely be completely competent pilots.

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    8. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by mjr167 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So what if you have one of these jobs and are going through a rough patch? Your wife just left you and took the kids, your mom died of cancer...

      If admitting to having problems causes you to loose the one thing you love to do, what do you do? Mental health is not an easy problem to solve. We need to make it socially ok to admit that we need help and that everything isn't ok. When someone asks "how are you today?", we should be able to give something other than the canned "I'm good! How are you?"

      The reality is that if you want to commit mass murder, it is not hard. Drive a SUV down a crowded street at a fair. Chain some doors shut and light a match.

    9. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by St.Creed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OR for fucks sake, while this is a tragic disaster, events like this are so incredibly rare, that we should be cautious to avoid 9/11 style psychosis.

      We should have avoided that psychosis in the first place by not locking the cabin doors. If they had locked cabin doors on september 11, they would have opened them as per the then standing instructions on hijacks and even flight 93 would have ended inside a skyscraper or the Pentagon.

      Even in 9/11 the cabin wasn't rushed with grenades and explosives, but with box knifes. Suppose it happens again? How long do the pilots hold out when the hijackers slaughter the passengers one by one outside their door, on their camera? And that assumes the passengers will happily play along - how many hijackings have occurred since 9/11 where the passengers sat idly by, waiting for their fate to be sealed? I bet it's a binary number.

      And another thing: now the pilots are in control of all those people. Quite literally untouchable. If you have even the smallest inclination towards a Messiah complex, this will set it right off. Couple that with the enormous pressure on pilots who are in debt, with airlines in trouble and sacking pilots, and you have a recipe for disaster.

      The cabin door lock was not meant to protect the passengers, it's meant to protect the skyscraper. I say we should get rid of it.

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    10. Re:Ummmm ... duh? by nbauman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Gee, and one wonders why people might not be forthcoming with their doctors.

      As soon as you say "fuck doctor patient confidentiality" then WTF would you expect people to tell doctors anything for?

      That's what happens in the military, in the special combat services. The military has a high suicide rate. They've been trying to encourage combat personnel to talk about that with doctors or therapists.

      Military personnel believe, with some justification, that if they went to a doctor or psychologist about a mental problem, it would be the end of their career.

      And there's a military culture being against psychotherapy and against acknowledging mental illness.

      (This is assuming that psychotherapy can actually prevent suicide. There was no evidence it can, last time I did a literature search.)

      So then the next thing you'd say is priests and lawyers should also not have confidentiality, because that would be inconvenient.

      One of the few ways you can have therapy that is still kept confidential is to see a clerical counselor. Kenneth Starr subpoenaed Monica Lewinsky's therapist to give his records and testify, but Starr didn't subpoena Lewinsky's rabbi. Also, unlike health professionals, the clergy aren't required to keep written records.

      I've never heard of a prosecutor subpoenaing a clergyman to testify about his congregants. They're privileging religious counselors over secular counselors, which is one more example of hypocritical favoritism towards religion, but our government always ignores the First Amendment when it's politically expedient.

  2. Pilots must remain in control by bughunter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, if one of the pilots wants to take the aircraft somewhere (be it into the side of a mountain, or to Cuba, or wherever) there's little the engineers, airlines or ATC can do about it. Any security measure will have a gap.

    And also, the pilots must have control of the aircraft. It's far more likely that an exception to protocol or security will be required to save lives than to endanger them.

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  3. Don't make it impossible, just make it hard by halivar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Having a flight-attendant sit in for a two-person rule may not have saved the plane, but at least the co-pilot would have to work harder for it.

  4. Re:A Bit Fishy by itzly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Planes need to be able to do emergency landings, so it makes sense there's an override switch for landing in the terrain.

  5. There's a limit to what can be done by Cimexus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree that the 'two people in cockpit at all times' rule that already exists in the US is a good idea and I'm sure this will now be introduced in Europe. Some airlines in Europe, Canada and elsewhere are already introducing it, as we speak.

    As for the argument that the tougher cockpit doors and lockout mechanisms are to blame for this incident ... that could be argued, but those changes have probably saved more lives over the last 14 years than were lost in this tragic incident, so rolling them back would be unwise. Admittedly this is somewhat like Lisa's tiger rock - we don't ~know~ how many potential hijackings or cockpit intrusions haven't occurred simply because would-be hijackers know that taking that approach is useless now. But looking at the number of hijackings per decade pre-9/11 and comparing to now, I think it's safe to say the strengthened doors and new cockpit access protocols were a net improvement.

    But all the security protocols in the world can't completely prevent incidents like this. Two people in the cockpit may make it slightly more difficult, but it just means the suicidal pilot needs to incapacitate the other person in there first. That adds an additional mental barrier (it is psychologically 'easier' to simply turn a dial and set an altitude below the terrain level, than it is to kill someone or knock them out first), so will prevent at least some of these incidents that may have otherwise occurred. But there is no complete solution because at the end of the day, those in the cockpit are in control of the machine and can do what they want with it. We put our trust in them, and in the airlines' ability to ensure their medical and psychological health.

  6. The Jet Blue incident by Latent+Heat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I believe it was mentioned that it was a Good Thing when a co-pilot locked out a captain who was freaking out, allowing the co-pilot to make and emergency landing and save the passengers.

  7. Re:A Bit Fishy by itzly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The computers aren't in complete control. If a pilot wants to do an emergency landing, he must have that option. The computers prevent some things, and they warn for others, but it's impossible to have a computer judge all kinds of complex situations, including various kinds of mechanical or sensor problems.

    Also, look at United 93. In some cases, it is preferable to have a plane crash into the terrain at high speed instead of having a hijacker control it into an office building.

  8. Re:A Bit Fishy by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also, look at United 93. In some cases, it is preferable to have a plane crash into the terrain at high speed instead of having a hijacker control it into an office building.

    Or with US Airways Flight 1549 (which was an Airbus A320-200) it was preferable to plop it into a river.

    Sully and the flight crew made a judgment call that they weren't going to reach any of the possible landing fields, so they turned the plane around and dropped it into the Hudson. It's unlikely the Airbus computers thought that was an appropriate action...

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