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Apple Extends Its Trade-In Program

Mark Wilson writes "Earlier in the month it was reveal that Apple was about to start offering gift cards as part of a trade-in program for people buying new a new iPhone. The updated program has now gone live so you can take your old Apple device, or non-Apple smartphone to an Apple store, or mail it in to receive credit. The credit can be used in store or online against the purchase of a new Apple device, and this program expansion is the latest move from Apple to try to tempt users away from other platforms. You can check online to see how much you can expect to receive for your existing phone and decide whether it's worth your while. Hint: it might not be.

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  1. Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am so excited by this new and innovative scheme from Apple. It really just shows us yet again that they are at the cutting edge of technology. It is incredible that nobody has thought of this before, and just goes to show how well placed our confidence is in Tim and the team. And they are also so tolerant of minorities. And treat their workers well.

    1. Re:Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon, give 'em a break. At least they have /. and excuse for a daily steve-jobbo bowel movement posting.

    2. Re: Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing how a corp that is so incredibly rich that they are considered to be one of, if not the richest in the world ever, they assume people need/want them so bad they stoop to coupons to try and get your business.
      If crapple was the only pc/phone supplier on earth I would own neither.
      Apple is a pathetic pile o shite. Google is not far behind either.

    3. Re: Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize his bowels haven't moved in nearly 3.5 years now, right?

    4. Re: Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but it has been too obvious today. Just look at the last two apple stories. Slashdot is not renowned for being full of fan bois yet the modded comments are almost all in defense or supportive. Anyway I think it is a waste of effort on the tech savvy crowd. They should stick with bloggers and search engine whitewashing for general consumers.

    5. Re:Apple PR compliant post by Imazalil · · Score: 1

      This is going to seem like magic. But imagine this. If you stop posting in and browsing Apple-related stories, then you will start seeing less and less of them over time.

      But, alas, then the world would not know how cool you are.

    6. Re:Apple PR compliant post by Lightning+McQueen · · Score: 1

      Missed advertising opportunity... You're offering "One KEY trick to hide Apple content. Slashdotters HATE THIS!"

    7. Re:Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like articles about hardware products and apple is a big manufacturer. Today their PR company just went a bit nuts in that apple watch article, but I guess that is to be expected so close to launch. Anyway if you guys didn't keep undermining trust in media like this, perhaps people would believe in sponsoring journalists so that they could do decent objective reporting again. It's like you're destroying your own future. I've seen how the media companies work (used to have friends at S&S and Ogilvy) and it is just a giant bullying totem pole with an inflatable ego at the top. The sick thing is how the people who are abused most by the system (the guys on the ground) are the ones doing the work to keep the system in place. Honestly grow some balls and shake up the industry. Form a union or something.

    8. Re:Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "I tried this technique for reducing Slashvertisements. You'll never guess what happened next!"

    9. Re: Apple PR compliant post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, i heard they put in a wonderful diving board on the roof of the Foxconn factory..... ..... what, wait a minute, ..... what do you mean there is no rooftop pool?

  2. It was reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Earlier this morning it was reveal that the Slashdot editors not proofread submitted post.

  3. clippingpathindian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The updated program has now gone live so you can take your old Apple device, or non-Apple smartphone to an Apple store, or mail it in to receive credit.
    thanks for post.

  4. Complete fail by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see this being an advantage for ANYONE:

    1. iPhone owners with an older model will get so little credit towards a new phone that they'll think twice before upgrading.

    2. Apple fanboys will buy the newest iPhone, trade-in or no trade-in.

    3. Android users with fancy devices (Note 4, S6) are fanboys and it'll be a cold day in hell before they switch to Apple.

    4. People with regular mid-end Android devices -- see #1 above.

    5. Blackberry users generally have company-issued phones, so they're not going to trade them.

    6. Windows Phone users are drinking the MS Kool Aid (tm) and anxiously waiting for Windows 10 and the secomd coming of Jesus.

    7. The trade-in program isn't available in developing countries yet, where Windows Phones are sold as budget devices (low end models only, of course).

    8. So, who's left? Maybe all 3 people who bought a Firefox OS phone?

    1. Re:Complete fail by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      The Firefox phone was like $30 and intended for developing nations, so see #7.

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    2. Re:Complete fail by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      http://store.apple.com/us/brow...

      Now that that's out of the way... I've got devices from 2009. I can't find any way to even trade them in.

      Back in 2011, I had an iOS device failure out of warranty, and I got a $50 value for bringing in the back cover of my previous device. Didn't need to bring in the rest, just the back cover, and I got $50 off the replacement. This probably kept me from going with an Android device at the time, and now I'm locked into the iOS App walled garden.

      So not sure about how they've adjusted the program now, but the old way definitely has affected my buying decisions.

    3. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aaaand back in reality, Apple continues to smash sales records with every iPhone release. You guys can hate all you want but Apple can't hear you because they need a backhoe to dig through the piles of cash swamping the Cupertino campus.

      A whole lot of people jumped back to the iphone because the 6+. They just wanted a big screen. I personally think phablets are asinine but there's a clear demand for them. Apple responds to market pressure a bit slower than the other vendors, probably because they work out their supply chains so far in advance.

      The trade in program is a basic marketing move that a lot of other vendors use. You have a reason to use an android device. Most people just want a functional device that offers the features they want. Apple gives that to them.

      I have an android tablet but in my opinion the Android ecosystem is still a god damn mess. Google's making a lot of headway cleaning it up. 4 was a massive improvement. 5 promises more, but it's been a pretty shitty start bug wise. The flagship Android vendor, Samsung, loads their devices with shitware. They launched four phones every week last year (Not an exaggeration. that is the literal truth) and seem to hate being an Andoid vendor all together. They'd rather push the joke that is called Tizen.

      I hear the latest flagship S/Note phones are a lot less bloated and locked down, though. Might be worth a look but I don't plan on replacing my 5s for twoish years. Each of my previous iphones has given me at least 3 years of good service, and each time the upgrade has been seamless. (Today it's as easy as logging in to icloud on your new phone. Apps, music, settings all come over automatically)

    4. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. iPhone owners with an older model will get so little credit towards a new phone that they'll think twice before upgrading.

      I traded in a iPhone 4 when I bought my iPhone 6 and they gave me $60. Why would I think twice about upgrading?

    5. Re:Complete fail by sehryan · · Score: 1

      Apparently, if you do it online, you get an Apple Store Gift Card, as opposed to credit towards a new iPhone.

      This is an important distinction, because it opens up your options. Want an AppleTV? How about an iMac or MacBook Air? What about some of the non-Apple stuff they sell at the store? All can now be funded with your trade-in.

      And even if none of these options appeal to you, you have a gift card with a verifiable balance that is probably not tied to your account. So if you get an $85 gift card for that iPhone5, and you don't want anything that Apple has to give, then sell the gift card for $85.

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    6. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. iPhone owners with an older model will get so little credit towards a new phone that they'll think twice before upgrading.

      I traded in a iPhone 4 when I bought my iPhone 6 and they gave me $60. Why would I think twice about upgrading?

      Seriously? Look and iPHone 4 with a clean ESN (and easily unlocked) is worth a minimum of $60 on E-Bay. If it's in good condition, unlocked and has a clean ESN you could get twice that. Why would you trade it in with Apple? Personally, I'd keep the blamed thing for that day when my 6 got broken, lost or stolen, but that's just because I am unlikely to have the cash to drop $800 on a new iPhone 6. Apple SHOULD be coughing up more than $100 for a 4 to make it worth the effort.

    7. Re:Complete fail by greg1104 · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly, Apple doesn't have piles of cash in Cupertino. They move the money to other countries where they can avoid US taxation.

    8. Re:Complete fail by alen · · Score: 1

      with ebay you have to figure they take 30% or so in fees between the selling fees and paypal fees and you have to take the chance on the buyer trying to scam you

    9. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they earned the money here and moved it offshore, they'd already have had to declare it and pay taxes on it.

      Their overseas money is being EARNED, and HELD, overseas, in a subsidiary that is structured for maximum tax advantage - this is simply smart business. Unless and until they decide to transfer that money from overseas to the US, they have done nothing illegal, or even remotely immoral or ethically questionable relative to US tax law - that money doesn't even exist, as far as the US government is concerned.

      Does the US magically have the right to tax any transaction, anywhere, whenever they please? If so, please explain what right you base this assertion on. If not, please explain why you insist on perpetuating the same tired bullshit about tax schemes you don't understand by parroting the same tired bullshit you read from other like-minded simpletons on Slashdot?

    10. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's great in that I get a free shipping label so I can get rid of my old computer junk that I would otherwise need to pay someone to take.

    11. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look and iPHone 4 with a clean ESN (and easily unlocked) is worth a minimum of $60 on E-Bay. If it's in good condition, unlocked and has a clean ESN you could get twice that.

      Because my time is more valuable than any price differential.

    12. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they earned the money here and moved it offshore, they'd already have had to declare it and pay taxes on it.

      Their overseas money is being EARNED, and HELD, overseas, in a subsidiary that is structured for maximum tax advantage - this is simply smart business. Unless and until they decide to transfer that money from overseas to the US, they have done nothing illegal, or even remotely immoral or ethically questionable relative to US tax law - that money doesn't even exist, as far as the US government is concerned.

      Does the US magically have the right to tax any transaction, anywhere, whenever they please? If so, please explain what right you base this assertion on. If not, please explain why you insist on perpetuating the same tired bullshit about tax schemes you don't understand by parroting the same tired bullshit you read from other like-minded simpletons on Slashdot?

      They do, because these companies are people, citizens of the USA, and all citizens owe taxes on income derived out of country. They can deduct taxes paid to foreign government son that income, if they paid any. If these companies don't want to be subject to US taxation, renounce their "citizenship" and leave.

    13. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently they'll give me £25 for my old iPhone 4. Should I leave it sitting in draw doing nothing, or should I get Apple to pay for a couple of rounds down the pub?

    14. Re:Complete fail by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I have an Ubuntu phone you insensitive clod.

    15. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do, because these companies are people, citizens of the USA,

      Yep, Apple Inc. is incorporated in the good old U S of A.

      Apple Operations International, Apple Sales International, and Apple Operations Europe, however - all subsidiaries of Apple, Inc. - are incorporated in and based in Cork, Ireland.

      Why is it that an Irish company, which derives all of its income from sales outside of the USA, should have its revenues subject to American tax law, again? You can certainly grumble that those Irish subsidiaries should be paying taxes to Ireland and/or other European Union tax bodies, but the suggestion that overseas money and profits should be subjected to American taxes is just foolish.

      Repeated investigations have found no violation of tax laws anywhere by Apple or its subsidiaries, and Ireland recently bowed to pressure to close the loophole, which means Apple may end up owing taxes as a result of the loophole being closed. None of that means a fucking thing with respect to how much Apple owes the IRS here in America.

    16. Re: Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Apple can't hear you because they need a backhoe to dig through the piles of cash swamping the Cupertino campus."

      Sheep will be sheep. You go right ahead and be a sheep. Except you will be an iSheep, culled specifically for piles o cash. Sounds like fun but count me out permanently. Fucking moron

    17. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iPhone owners with an older model will get so little credit towards a new phone that they'll think twice before upgrading.

      My advice: shop around. I went to EB Games (in Australia) and got more than twice what Apple offered for my old iPhone. In cash. It helps if your phone is undamaged (kept it in a case), working (they need to be able to get to Settings > General > About) and you still have the original packaging.

    18. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be silly, Apple doesn't have piles of cash in Cupertino. They move the money to other countries where they can avoid US taxation.

      Yawn... They, Saint Google, and the rest of corporate America....

    19. Re:Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aaaand back in reality, Apple continues to smash sales records with every iPhone release. You guys can hate all you want but Apple can't hear you because they need a backhoe to dig through the piles of cash swamping the Cupertino campus.

      That is due to their profit margin, but their market share is relatively small.

    20. Re: Complete fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they are shell companies that otherwise provides no benefits. The companies wouldn't survive on its own. How many workers in Ireland? Enough to hold down a mailing address?

      You are arguing this is all legal and Americans should be grateful, but it IS a tax runaround/loophole that is done by hiring hundreds of former IRS workers who know the loopholes.

      It's like a man and wife getting divorced and the man transfers all the money out of their shared accounts so as not to pay the wife. She sees a fraction of what she would otherwise receive.

      Hey, if you want to pay more taxes so the rich can get richer, go right ahead and push your country into another depression. I'm not American, you can fuck up your own country as you see fit.

  5. No Good by andreagold · · Score: 1

    It will still remain money hogger with no benefit at all.

  6. Advantage is in immediacy by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I traded in a previous gen iPhone, I got enough to pay for AppleCare for two new phones. That happened on the spot, I don't see how that is any kind of "disadvantage".

    You can get more selling a device yourself for sure. But that's a lot of hassle, ant not everyone has eBay accounts.

    You can also get a little more selling to other companies that will give you cash for older phones. But not much more, and it takes a little longer than simply getting credit for Apple when your goal is to buy something new from Apple anyway...

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    1. Re:Advantage is in immediacy by vux984 · · Score: 1

      You can also get a little more selling to other companies that will give you cash for older phones. But not much more, and it takes a little longer than simply getting credit for Apple when your goal is to buy something new from Apple anyway...

      Therefore Apple has managed to give a discount to people who were ALREADY going to buy apple products?

      So the point of the program is what? To make less money?

    2. Re:Advantage is in immediacy by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      You can get more selling a device yourself for sure. But that's a lot of hassle, ant not everyone has eBay accounts.

      That's really the reason why there's a big discount between what you can get off eBay, Craigslist or Kijiji over just doing it at Apple.

      There's a risk vs. reward (you could post it and no one replies, scams, etc), so it depends how many dollars you want for that, versus how much are you willing to give up so someone else "can do it for you". Plus, it also costs time - you have to drive to the transaction location or your local PD and wait for the seller (who might bail on you, meaning you stand around for half an hour).

      or you can just eat the difference and bring it to Apple and have it immediately swapped out. Presuming you already had in mind the iPhone you wanted, this brings you a small discount.

    3. Re:Advantage is in immediacy by Chaset · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I figure it takes the wind out of the second hand market. Not sure whether that's a good or bad thing for them, though it seems they think it's a good thing.

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    4. Re:Advantage is in immediacy by quintessentialk · · Score: 2

      Maybe timing? If you are planning to buy a new smartphone sometime in the next n months, and are undecided about exactly when to buy or what to buy, maybe this will tilt you toward buying an iphone, and now?

    5. Re:Advantage is in immediacy by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      the wind was already taken out of the second hand market by having an anti-theft lock turned on by default. if you went to craigslist to buy a phone, you need to know if there is an antitheft lock on, because if you try to reset and install your own stuff, you could have bought a phone that you can't use. There are more structured options like amazon (buying direct, not from a marketplace person) or gazelle, but they get their markups.

      Right now I'm still using my two-year-old iphone 5. Once I got out of my att contract I took it to an mvno for prepaid service. I chose rok mobile for the best balance of low cost and high data cap.

    6. Re:Advantage is in immediacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Point is probably to destroy these phones. People without a smartphone wouldn't get a a hand-me-down (it is how I get rid of old phones) but would have to buy new instead.

  7. I bet it's penny on the dollar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like with Game Stop trade-ins... It's simply not worth it.

    1. Re:I bet it's penny on the dollar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My quick check indicates that the price Apple will pay is a few bucks less than the same phone would get you on E-Bay. So, not pennies on the dollar, but it's no real advantage to the consumer and I bet Apple really just disposes of them in the trash (albeit in the most environmentally friendly way they can).

  8. hating on options? by Imazalil · · Score: 1

    Wait, so we are hating on Apple for giving us more options now?

  9. apples real problem is utility. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sticking my neck out here as a former marketing droid, Dyed in the wool fanboys will never drop apple without a knock-down drag-out fight. the problem apple faces is theyre in the same market as CocaCola and Phillip Morris: Users who use the brand are their most ardent and loyal, but new customers are next to impossible to attract. Part of this is the fact that Apple doesnt do a great job of understanding why customers of Android dont engage their brand, but part of it is also the fact that what they offer isnt distinct enough from what already exists at a lower pricepoint. Whats worse is that as time goes on, and evidence amasses, it becomes easier to ween fans away from the product. Apple does a decent job of whats called 'customer maintenance,' a fancy term for brand reinforcement, but throwing fistfuls of trade-in cash at the problem is an old automotive technique thats basically a wash unless you have something like cash for clunkers.

    cue the flamebait moddown but i feel like it should be stated: its not a death spiral by any means, more like a slow death for the brand. There are ways to stop it though, pretty easy ones in fact. Coca Cola just bought up the brands that were outselling it overseas, and started buying out bottling and distribution for other local brands in the states that wouldnt sell. Phillip Morris and apple are a lot alike in that theyre both highly litigious when it comes to their product. PM sues for relaxed smoking taxes and legislation, apple sues for patent violations from importers. Another outlier that apple could emulate is Harley Davidson. Instead of competing in the market, harley just lobbied to have a massive import tarrif levied against imported motorcycles above a certain similar-to-harley size.

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    1. Re:apples real problem is utility. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that you just said that the world's most valuable company is in a death spiral, don't you?

    2. Re:apples real problem is utility. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sticking my neck out here as a former marketing droid

      I presume you're a "former" marketing droid because you have no understanding of margins, target demographics, and profitability, as evidenced by your post?

      What the fuck does Apple care if Android is "outselling it" overseas, when Apple is basically the only company in the smartphone game making any profit, and massive piles of profit, at that? What you seem to be suggesting is that somehow phone manufacturers will continue losing money on Android, and somehow making up that per-unit loss in sales volume? You realize that's a mathematical impossibility, right?

      Apple understands quite well why Fandroids don't "engage with their brand" - they're buying the cheapest smartphone with the biggest screen that they can, for the most part. Apple isn't interested as interested in low-margin areas of the market, so Apple is happy to let people buy the cheap smartphones that cost other manufacturers money while continuing to improve their own offerings with tightly integrated offerings. By the time people get sick of Android and are willing to "engage with the Apple brand," Apple will be happy to sell them a 1- or 2-year old model using their own segmentation model.

    3. Re:apples real problem is utility. by mccalli · · Score: 1

      You understand that the release of the latest iPhone generations produced the highest rate switchers away from Android and over to the iPhone, right?

      I don't mind the debate - I've had an iPhone since the 3GS but was and am seriously looking at switching away for various reasons. The debate should be based on fact though, and the facts are that Apple doesn't have a dearth of people moving off other platforms and over to its own.

    4. Re:apples real problem is utility. by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      the problem apple faces is theyre in the same market as CocaCola and Phillip Morris:

      Reality check: Apple just gained a major number of new customers with the iPhone 6. At the same time, Samsung Mobile has been losing dramatically, having to give up most of its profits to keep prices down to prevent even higher loss of customers.

  10. that's not new they've done it by michael.wasson · · Score: 1

    before

  11. Far too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry. I liked skeuomorphism, and you stole it from me. (My carrier wouldn't work without that carrier update... that I had to upgrade to your flat iOS crap to get.) Computer graphics took engineering toil and sweat for decades to make displays that could bedazzle dying ants... and you throw all of that away because it's old and boring. Hipster fucks.

    Every time you fix something that's wrong with iTunes, you break fifteen other things. Your iPhone music app won't play podcasts worth a damn -- Apple darn near invented podcasting, you blind fools. Someone might forgive the way it looks if it works right, but you've apparently fired the programmers who made anything work and replaced them with designers who think everything should look like the cum rag at clown bukkake night.

    And to see the Apple CEO ranting about Indiana politics... it doesn't even matter if I agree with you, you miserable fuckwit, mind your own damn business and fix your damn products!!!!!

    My next phone will be whatever they shit out with Windows 10 on it -- because Apple has finally succeeded in making Microsoft look good by comparison!

  12. More involved then just a trade in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think in this world of technology ecosystems. Its far more involved then just trading in a Android phone, or Windows phone, even a iPhone can cause people some problems. Those who fail at backing up pictures or personal files of any kind, or those who have much vested in Apps from another ecosystem. Its not like you can just switch them over. No I consider a mobile device ecosystem switch a divorce that can go easily or can get ugly. Read any smart phone forum and you will find plenty of disenchanted switchers who lost a whole lot of stuff that they thought would simply and magically move over. If your a person who wants to save themselves a lot of grief. Make sure you back up using something other then the default backup route for the mobile OS. Don't be so quick to accept Google's cloud or Apple's cloud solution. Unless you will be inclined to stay put. Use a third party solution capable of moving from one OS to another with ease.

  13. Pay to downgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would Android users pay to downgrade to an iOS smartphone? Seems a bit pointless.