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Watching a "Swatting" Slowly Unfold

netbuzz writes That online gamers have been victimized has unfortunately allowed us to see what "swatting" looks like from the perspective of the target: terrifying and potentially deadly. A similar type of criminally unnecessary SWAT scene played out Saturday night when a caller to police in Hopkinton, Mass., claimed to be holed up in the town's closed public library with two hostages and a bomb. The library stands within eyesight of the starting line for the Boston Marathon. An editor for Network World, there by happenstance, watched for two hours, and, while it was a hoax and no one was hurt, his account highlights the disruption and wastefulness these crimes inflict.

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  1. Domestic Terrorism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would it be overkill to consider swatting a form of domestic terrorism?

    It places people in imminent threat of bodily harm, definitely spreads fear - and the one that seems to tip the scales for me is that it intentionally disrupts the police's ability to respond to real threats and is basically derailing society's ability to defend itself.

    Okay, labeling it terrorism would probably be too much, but things like swatting strike me as attacks on society itself - which to me falls under my own definition of terrorism.

    1. Re:Domestic Terrorism? by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let me put this clearly. We don't need a damn new enforcement of terrorism laws that they then can use to throw at the books of everyone and their grandma. There are laws already on the books for dealing with this from filing a false police report on up.

      What they need to do to put a stop to this is start putting people in jail for it and make people realize they cannot fake a call to 911 anonymously. Once the story makes the rounds that if you do it you will go to jail people will stop doing it. That's all you need to do, start putting the pranksters in prison for a year or so and giving them a felony record in the process and this will stop. But you have to prove to the public that if you make one of these calls you will be caught.

      But as long as the police departments treat it as a non-crime by not investigating it's only going to get worse. The for profit policing that the war on drugs had created discourages the police from pursuing real crime that's not tied to drugs.

  2. The only reason this SWATTING nonsense works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is because of the predictably over-the-top military reaction by the police.

    Why kick someone in the balls when you can shine a laser pointer at his crotch, and have his dog bite him there?

    De-escalate police reactions and you'll see this go away.

  3. "Swatting" doesn't capture the crime. by hey! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Better to call it "terrorism by proxy".

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  4. for those outside the states... by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    Swatting is our warm colloquialism for the unintended consequences of the slow but progressive militarization of our local and regional police forces. forty years ago, the war on drugs and whats known in our nation as 'tough on crime' policies began to take the form of whatever our politicians fever-dreamed the nature of crime to be. California came out with 3 strike laws that relegated everything from bounced checks to jaywalking third offences to a minimum life sentence in prison, and the idea of civil forfeiture became a smart way to enact real-world consequences for movie-screen criminal caricatures. In america as it stands, thanks to the policies of carter, reagan, nixon, bush, and johnson, police officers can now purchase surplus military equipment for free, less shipping. And since america's chief export is war these days, we have a lot of surplus military equipment waiting to be used. This program ramped up after 9/11 and before we knew it, sleepy towns like Dothan Alabama owned tanks, mine resistent personnel vehicles, and millions of dollars in tactical military hardware such as night vision and machine guns with no realistic opportunity or purpose to utilize them.

    So without real use, these systems degrade and deteriorate and the cost to maintain them is, well, very expensive. as a result, police departments found themselves shoehorning equipment requesitioned from hand-me-down government transfer projects and knee-jerk terrorism overfunding into everything. Warrant service for taxes? SWAT and a 40 ton tank can handle that. peaceful parade against planned parenthood? sounds like a job for machineguns and nightvision. And finally, the SWATting. Its an innocuous situation where some crank-yanker calls in an odious situation that requires immediate action. Hostage situations and school shootings arent oustide the american experience, but our response is nothing short of lethal interception no matter how far fetched it seems that a hostage situation in the Dugal county truck stop mens room is taking place.

    Cops are baked in it. Theyve spend 30 years growing into this nonsense, that everything that isnt pulling over minorities in classic cars should be handled like a van damme movie. Their defense is often pretty good, noting that america is relatively unique in that citizenry can openly and easily procure weapons capable of quickly defeating both their body armor and their general defensive capability. But municipalities have no excuse for continuing to perpetuate this police-state response other than the obvious: theyre run by boomers and the elderly. People who have direct influence over the tactics and policy used by our police are obviously easily frightened. 24 hour news and internet forwards from grandma have reduced what should be a responsible, level-headed committee to a clamouring rats nest of assholes hovering somewhere between religious nationalism and dictatorial rule of law. the bottom line: cops arent soldiers, but we liketo pretend they are to make sure theyre ready to fight our boogeymen.

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  5. Re:call the library ? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first armed man put down the telephone. His accomplace briefly averted his eyes from us to glance at him, asking "Did they buy it?"

    "Sure thing. The police think it's just another night at the library, that the call they got was a hoax. Totally bought the line I was the night watchman. They have no idea about the hostages."

    "Good", said the first. "What now?"

    "Now", the first armed man replied, "We dial 911, and tell them we have hostages and list our demands..."

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  6. Re:Completely and utterly false explanation... by HBI · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's not wrong. Sorry, i'm not a leftist ideological hack, probably just the opposite, and I agree with, in essence, everything said by the GP poster. We did militarize our police forces for bad reasons. We do overreact to crimes. We should strip out all of the military hardware from "first responders" aka law enforcement. There's no need for it and it makes our existence more coarse.

    Getting rid of some stupid drug laws and over the top criminal enforcement would also help.

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  7. I think the solution is obvious by davydagger · · Score: 5, Informative
    As long as the cops in the USA have the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality, swatting will always be a problem. SWATing exploits the fact that cops are fucking stupid, scared animals, who are prone to alarmism, and itch for an excuse to use excessive force. They see no problem in roughing up many innocents to get a small handful of small time criminals. They are easy to trick, slow to think, quick to act.

    The solution is to re-examine SWAT team usage nation wide, and how they are used and for what. Until we do, SWATing will always be a threat. The solution is to fix the vulernbility by replacing a dangerous and broken system with one that works better.