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Cannabis Smoking Makes Students Less Likely To Pass University Courses

Bruce66423 writes: A large scale European study shows that students who were unable to buy cannabis legally were 5% more likely to pass their University courses. Below-average students with no legal access to pot were 7.6% more likely to pass their courses, and the effect was five times more pronounced when dealing with courses involving math. One of the study's authors said, "We think this newfound effect on productivity from a change in legal access to cannabis is not negligible and should be, at least in the short run, politically relevant for any societal drug legalization and prohibition decision-making. In the bigger picture, our findings also indicate that soft drug consumption behavior is affected by their legal accessibility, which has not been causally demonstrated before. ... Considering the massive impact on cognitive performance high levels of THC have, I think it is reasonable to at least inform young users much more on consequences of consuming such products as compared with that of having a beer or pure vodka."

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  1. Marijuana's capacity to REVEAL TRUTH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, the 5% of people who smoked weed at university, and realized university is a RE-EDUCATION CAMP where special educational tools are used to break the most dangerous young minds and prepare them for a life of productivity in service to the Man. *bong smoke floats out of my stained beanbag nest.*

    1. Re:Marijuana's capacity to REVEAL TRUTH by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Interesting that this part of the "social contract" only applies to bans and prohibitions in the minds of the right but they suddenly become very vocal on "self reliance" and "personal responsibilities" when it comes to funding for college educations for underprivileged students.

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    2. Re:Marijuana's capacity to REVEAL TRUTH by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, just try and talk to them about a social contract to reduce the harm that comes from widespread ownership of firearms

      Widespread legal ownership of firearms isn't a problem. The problem come from illegal possession and misuse of firearms.

      The spread of concealed carry laws shows that law abiding citizens aren't the issue. Incidents among citizens licensed for concealed carry of firearms are rare, contradicting the predictions of doom from some.

      In your version of the social contract the strong can be predators while the old or infirm are defenseless. No thanks.

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    3. Re:Marijuana's capacity to REVEAL TRUTH by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, just try and talk to them about a social contract to reduce the harm that comes from widespread ownership of firearms

      You could replace 'firearms' with 'free speech' and find Great Powers (the PRC and Russia) that are sympathetic; somehow I doubt you'd be willing to emigrate there though. I also suspect that you'd be looking at a -1 mod right now, rather than +5, since your contribution to the discussion would be both offtopic and flamebait.

      Even if I accepted your premise about the social cost of gun ownership (I don't, violent crime in the US has continued to drop for decades, even as gun laws have been largely liberalized) it would not change my opinion about firearms ownership. Self-defense is an inherent human right, one that can not be exercised effectively without weaponry that negates disparities in physical strength, numbers, or size. The right of self-defense is recognized in the United States by the 2nd Amendment, as well as Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

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  2. I'm gonna go out on a limb. by queazocotal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And say that availability of alcohol has a vastly higher effect than 5%.

    1. Re:I'm gonna go out on a limb. by gewalker · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, had you read the article ...

      “The effects we find are large, consistent and statistically very significant,” Marie told the Observer. “For example, we estimate that students who were no longer able to buy cannabis legally were 5% more likely to pass courses. The grade improvement this represents is about the same as having a qualified teacher and, more relevantly, similar to decreases in grades observed from reaching legal drinking age in the US.”

      So, about the same.

      I thought we already knew the academic impact of canibus use from the documentary Fast Times at Ridgemont High

    2. Re:I'm gonna go out on a limb. by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Due to my own empirical observations, I would have to disagree. In my late teens and early twenties when studying liberal arts, philosophy and making my living as an illustrator and animator, I rarely drank but would smoke weed pretty frequently and maintained a 3.6 to 4.0 GPA without even trying.

      However, when I decided to teach myself to code a few years later, I found the weed really got in the way, so bought some beer and found I could drink a fair amount of beer and still grok the info I needed and retain it. As such, I stopped smoking weed and started drinking for my recreational pleasure.

    3. Re:I'm gonna go out on a limb. by garyisabusyguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Meanwhile, students who were incarcerated for possession of marijuana, or who lost their student loans for a marijuana arrest were 100% less likely to pass their university courses

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    4. Re: I'm gonna go out on a limb. by kevinking.psyd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, not really. There are plenty of introverted people (i.e., not networkers) who learned valuable skills and got jobs based on knowledge gained in college. This is so blatantly obvious that I'm not even going to bother citing sources (a skill I learned in college). The burden of proof is on you. I will put this out for you though: do you really want a surgeon who skipped half of her classes operating on you? Do you really want your pediatrician diagnosing your childs illness based on google searches?

    5. Re:I'm gonna go out on a limb. by garyisabusyguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I do not think that using marijuana and murder are remotely similar

      The question raised in this study is the effect of legal marijuana, I am pointing out that criminalization of marijuana also has an impact on student performance

      Why are prohibitionists so quick to resort to insults?

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    6. Re:I'm gonna go out on a limb. by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's because you were studying liberal arts. Switching my major from computer science to philosophy took me from a 2.4 GPA to a 3.9 GPA overnight while eliminating the need for me to study.

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  3. This is a great argument! by Stickasylum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Television, video games, beer, and anything else potentially distracting to poorly performing students should be illegal too!

  4. unreal by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Informative

    playing too much unreal took way more than 5% off of my grades.

    i didn't start using cannabis regularly until after college, it's vastly superor to alcohol in the "how functional am i at work the next day if i overindulge" department.

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    1. Re:unreal by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      playing too much unreal took way more than 5% off of my grades.

      playing with myself took way more than 5% off of my grades.

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    2. Re:unreal by sensei+moreh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I found out during high school that I couldn't do Calculus while stoned; it was something I had to work around back then. Eight hours of sleep would clear it right out... Not so much a problem anymore; and I still do Calculus daily. :)

      Well, if you'd lay off the cannabis, maybe you'd finally pass calculus :)

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  5. Um...obvious? by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, what am I missing? I mean, this seems obvious.

    Being stoned, just like being drunk, has kind of an obvious affect on your current cognitive abilities. For both drugs, you are looking a a time-frame of hours where you cannot study or work effectively. TFA even notes that the magnitude of the effect on grades is similar.

    If you drink alcohol or smoke pot on nights when you need to be studying, your grades are going to suffer. If you restrict yourself to times when you really don't have any obligations, then there won't be a problem. Young adults being, well, young adults, they may not always have the necessary self-awareness and self-discipline - hence, their grade may suffer while they are learning this life lesson.

    Make sure people are aware of the effects of the drugs. Encourage self-control and self-discipline. Prohibition is, and has always been, a non-solution.

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  6. "This, they argue, is not that surprising." by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it quite surprising.

    Sure being a pot head is going to have a detrimental effect on your grades.

    But given my experiences with university in a place where marijuana was not legal I can't believe there are enough students who would not smoke when it is illegal but would when it is legal to swing the overall grade by 5%.