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Hillary Clinton Declares 2016 Democratic Presidential Bid

An anonymous reader writes In a move that surprised no one, Hillary Clinton has officially announced she is entering the 2016 race for the White House. According to the Times: "Ending two years of speculation and coy denials, Hillary Rodham Clinton announced on Sunday that she would seek the presidency for a second time, immediately establishing herself as the likely 2016 Democratic nominee. 'I'm running for president,' she said with a smile near the end of a two-minute video released just after 3 p.m. 'Everyday Americans need a champion. And I want to be that champion,' Mrs. Clinton said. 'So I'm hitting the road to earn your vote — because it's your time. And I hope you'll join me on this journey.'"

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  1. Hell No Hillary by klueless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please don't vote for Hillary just because she is a woman. We can't continue the oligarchy that is the US government leadership.

    1. Re:Hell No Hillary by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      By all means, you may vote for whomever you choose but please don't lie about it.

      Hillary Clinton is one of the most corrupt politicians who has ever been on the national scene. Her job during her husband's administration was to orchestrate the harassment and character assassination of the women who were sexually assaulted by her husband.

      LK

      You got an proof with that? Because what I hear is the same old bullshit I've hear republicans say since Clinton was in office. And I don't actually care much, because the sex shit with Clinton was no fucking big deal at all, it's like when you are arguing with someone and they start picking on your grammar. You have nothing else on the Clintons, 'cept this one minor sex shit and it's blown out of proportion. Fuck, the VP is way the fuck more creepy then Clinton ever was, at least Clinton has the decency to not hit on women during their husbands speech.

      So unless you have some real proof of bad shit, fuck off. I'm tired of the weak excuses you people bring.

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    2. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Lefties so damn crazy it's adorable you almost think they believe it themselves

      So unless you have some real proof of bad shit, fuck off. I'm tired of the weak excuses you people bring.

      anyway here you go

      http://bit.ly/1alFGC9

    3. Re:Hell No Hillary by Nyder · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Lol you forgot Sandy Berger the Clinton Stooge who was stuffing classified documents down his freaking pants

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

      Really their whole administration was like a bad episode of Bewitched.

      And yet, the 8 years Clinton was in office, shit was good in America. Really fucking good. Then Bush came in and fucked shit up. And shit has been fucked up since Bush was in office. The only "Change" Obama brought to office is the loosening of the Marijuana laws.

      It will be nice to see a Clinton in office, someone who does give a fuck about the people also, and maybe we can end the Twenty10's in decent economic shape for the first time since the 1990's.

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    4. Re:Hell No Hillary by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The truth is, the Republicans are scared to death of Clinton.

      I don't think they are anymore. Hillary is looking a lot like Romney did last election.......not too great, but the party couldn't find anyone to beat him (although a Gengrich campaign would have been much more interesting, it would have been awful if he'd won).

      Hillary looks beatable.

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    5. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ollie North did time for less under paragraph (b): https://www.law.cornell.edu/us...

      Of course, even if it was legal to have a home server to intercept all official communications, destroying it while under subpoena is the type of shitty move that can get you 20 years if you do that when the IRS or SEC demands info. It doesn't matter if it was legal to keep the info, once it is demanded, destruction of that info is the crime.

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    6. Re:Hell No Hillary by Kohath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about the fact that she was in charge when a U.S. Ambassador was killed for the fist time in 30 years?
      How about the fact that she has zero accomplishments as Secretary of State? (Feel free to refute this by listing her accomplishments.)
      How about the fact that she has zero important accomplishments as Senator?
      How about the fact that she was put in charge of health care as First Lady and accomplished nothing?

      If you're weighing her pros and cons, what are the pros?

    7. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would any Republican be afraid of HRC? She is one in all but name. Iraq War cheerleader, surveillor, wall street's best friend. Seriously, what is there for the GOP to hate policy wise? Yeah, we know they hater her personally, but from a policy perspective, she's the dream GOP candidate.

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    8. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, it's possible. It was during the Clinton administration that regulation of Credit Default Swaps was deemed unnecessary. We all saw how that worked out.

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    9. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think conservatives/libertarians/Republicans are making a mistake just focusing on the death of the Ambassador and three others. To most people, it just looks like a tragic mistake.

      Better would be to focus on cover-up that followed and was used manipulate the 2012 election and resulted in the jailing of an innocent film-maker.

      Everyone makes mistakes. Blaming someone else who is then jailed just to make yourself look better is sinister.

      Focus on that.

    10. Re:Hell No Hillary by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please don't vote for Hillary just because she is a woman.,

      This election won't be about gender or any substantive issues. The only choice is going to be between Crazy and Not Crazy and Hillary wins that going away.

      The GOP doesn't have any policies to run on, they've turned into an endless fountain of negativity. Benghazi! Tax cuts! Email server! Job creators! They're anti-science, anti-abortion, anti-everything except starting another war in the Middle East.

      No one that isn't as batshit crazy as they are is going to vote for a GOP presidential candidate.

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    11. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So your defence of her is that it's fine to be corrupt because everyone else is. I think you should read your post and realise how morally bankrupt you are.

      I won't vote for anyone who is corrupt, which is why I've been spoiling my ballot since I turned 18. If everyone did the same it would send a strong message and we might actually get some change. Unfortunately, we have people like you saying "it's fine that the people in power abuse their position because everyone in power does it".

      That's truly sad.

    12. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or we could focus on how she would run the country.

      While I think the Affordable Care Act is a mess (I'd prefer some sort of true UHC), I do enjoy the expanded Medicaid. And I hope she would be forceful by vetoing anything that would remove the expanded Medicaid.

      I am concerned about SNAP being cut. While it would be cut come later this year (state waivers will be no more), I'm afraid she won't push to expand the SNAP program back to post-recession levels. I mean, didn't her husband cut a lot of people from welfare back in the 90s?

      But the biggest issue I have with her is that it feels like she is pro-war. That she wouldn't try cutting the DoD and try focusing on domestic social issues, such as helping the poor, etc. to the extent that is needed.

      To me, the top two parties, the Republicans and Democrats, feel like poison. That anyone who runs will end up being in the interest of someone other than the people. I'd rather vote for someone I wanted, rather than the lesser of two evils.

    13. Re:Hell No Hillary by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know what, maybe there's even something bad in there - but by now, I'm so fatigued by hearing the incessant parade of outrage and supposed scandal that it's like the boy who cried wolf. I'm just not listening anymore.

      It's not just with the Clintons, either. Obama has been subjected to the same stream of crap, trying to put together some sort of scandal or conspiracy, or even flat out making things up ("Obama is coming for your guns!") when they've got nothing better to go on. During the 2008 primaries, I even thought at one point "Better Obama win than Clinton, because he doesn't have that baggage, and it's better if we don't have to relive that whole deluge of minor non-scandals and animosity." It was such a ridiculously naive thought, because it had nothing to do with the Clintons personally, and everything to do with there being a Democrat in the White House.

    14. Re:Hell No Hillary by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      how about the fact that she was in charge when a U.S. Ambassador was killed for the fist time in 30 years?

      30 whole years? There have been seven US ambassadors killed in the line of duty. That works out to one every thirty years.

      I have no love for Hillary Clinton, but I hate the dishonesty of the jackoffs on the Right even more.

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    15. Re:Hell No Hillary by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless the link changed since you looked, it links to a google search on "clinton corruption", which really does return thirty one million, nine hundred thousand results.

      And a google search on "Bush stupid" really does return fifty-two million, eight hundred thousand results.

      That means, by your reasoning, that George Bush (and by extension his entire family, since the "clinton corruption" search is going to return more than just items on Hillary) is more than 40% more stupid than Clinton is corrupt.

      In fact, since you got me started down this road, it turns out that the search "stupid Republican" yields thirty eight million, eight hundred thousand results (with nice pictures of George Bush, Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann right across the top, indicating that the entire Republican party, all of them are seven million search results more stupid than the Clinton family is corrupt.

      To take your moronic statement one step further, shall we compare the results of the search "corrupt Republican" (21,100,000 search results) with "corrupt Democrat" (7,660,000 search results). That means, by your own logic, that Republicans, who have only existed as a party for a little more than half as long, account for THREE MOTHERFUCKING TIMES more corruption than the Democratic Party. Wow, that's a lot.

      Seriously, for a group of people that are in technology, there are a lot of Slashdot users who are some stupid sonsabitches when it comes to basic reasoning. I get that it's a tribal thing resulting from an AM talk radio cargo cult and probably some incest, but geez louise.

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    16. Re:Hell No Hillary by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't care about Bill Clinton's consensual sex life.

      I'm not talking about Monica.

      I'm talking about Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick, not to mention the other women who recanted their allegations after Hillary's forces put pressure on them.

      She victimized women who were assaulted by her husband.

      That's far worse than Bill's hanky-panky with an intern.

      LK

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    17. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      She was involved in the lie about the Benghazi attack.

      This woman is scary. You seriously need to read about what she's been involved in rather than just listening to what she says she's going to do as president. She's a neo-con who will take the status quo with regards to pro-war, pro-crony-capitalism, pro-domestic-spying and amp it up to 11.

      People need to STOP voting for these multimillionaire career politicans. Until that happens, you're just going to get asshole after asshole who's only goal is to further they're own class' interest at the expense of everyone else.

    18. Re:Hell No Hillary by plopez · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ambassadors killed:
      We lost 3 under Nixon and Ford, Republicans Win!
      Accomplishments:
      http://www.usnews.com/opinion/...

      Her health care initiatives did poorly for the same reason Obama is embattled, Bill and Hillary were outsiders (sometimes referred to as 'trailer park trash') who want to help all Americans, not just a few rich ones.

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    19. Re:Hell No Hillary by BLKMGK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      She's a LAWYER, she was ordered to turn over emails, she had a "neutral" 3rd party decide what to turn over, then trashed the rest. She knew what she was doing looked shady and she kept her own server for exactly the reason of wanting to make sure no one could see what she didn't want them to see. Shady from the word go on this one, that single act alone cost her my vote for sure. If she makes it as far as public debate I cannot wait to see her drilled for this. Want private emails? Sure, use your own server but OFFICIAL emails shouldn't be mixed. If she thought this was okay, as a lawyer, when official email services were available, then I'm sorry she's too stupid for my vote in that case either.

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    20. Re: Hell No Hillary by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nice job there of covering for the Federal Troops.

      Are you out of your fucking mind?

      Clinton and his FBI weren't evil. Just really incompetent. There was little evidence for the stuff you're slandering that cult over. But it protects 'your boy' to slander them.

      History will sort it all out, and if you want to be one of the dudes who bootlicked the Feds, that's fine. Speak out loudly and often and maybe your descendents can know.

  2. Holding the nose again? by Trachman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hillary does have presidential ambitions, yes. There is a good chance that 8 years older, less attractive, bruised by most recent fuckups such as BenGhazi, Email and her recently exposed Bosnia sniper fire falsification, will lose to younger W. Warren.

    From Republican side Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz will be rolled out. There is a chance that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz will be on one ticket.

    I wish there was a third choice...

  3. Re:Hmmmmm by Beck_Neard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In America you need a huge amount of money to run for president. It's essentially impossible unless you're a billionaire or have mega campaign donations. On the republican side, only the far-right whackjobs get the campaign donations, and on the democrat side, only the corporate whores get them. Hence the results we see.

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  4. Nerds care about politics too by whistlingtony · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nerds care about politics too...

    I'm Liberal. I want clean government, an end to shitty subsidies, no corruption, representatives that actually represent me, equality and justice for all... All the usual.

    I can't stand Hillary. I actually turned myself into a Democrat (You can easily switch parties in Oregon. There's a website. it takes just a few moments.) so I could vote AGAINST Hillary in the primary. I think she's a giant tool, and a bit of a war monger. I think she'll be the same bank and war friendly President that we got out of Clinton, Bush, Bush, Obama, and Obama. She's not a progressive. She doesn't care about the little guy. She's a career politician.

    If Warren won't run, I'll vote for Bernie Sanders, the only Independant in Congress.

    To end this, I would say to you all that our country is having some problems and it's OUR fault. Large swaths of the US citizenry are political morons who vote for hot button issues (And really, when did the R's ever get rid of abortion? When did the D's ever really help the poor? They just SAY that shit, they don't mean it.) or for the "character" of a candidate. Voter turnout is really low, making it possible for candidates to play to the base instead of playing to the swing voter.... Don't blame Washington. Blame yourself. And don't give me that "I don't vote so it's not my fault" B.S. You give them your taxes and then don't hold them responsible for what they do with them. Those people make me sick....

  5. meet the new boss by lophophore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    same as the old boss

    We Americans will get the government we deserve, once again. I'm too jaded to be disappointed.

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  6. Re:Hooray! by Rockoon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    But there's also a lot of criticism of Obama that's either openly racist or wailing on dog whistles

    Bullshit.

    Every time you make these bullshit claims, another white person hates Democrats.

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  7. Re:Hmmmmm by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you live in a swing state, your vote pretty much doesn't count.

    There's so little chance that your vote will count that it's pretty much not worth being informed on the issues. This causes an obviously bad cycle, which is easily exploited by concentrated interests.

    If somebody was selling a product with a code-base that operated on rules this good, they'd scrap it for a rewrite. At least in a market that offers anything but a monopoly product.

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  8. Please, not another Clinton by blindseer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or another Bush. We founded this nation to get ourselves out from the rule of royal families. Of all the people that the Democrats could come up with they put her forward.

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  9. Re:Voting For Hillary is Voting For China by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All you say is true, but you should interweave into that that Clinton's penchant for free trade deals with unequal economies meant the decimation of good paying manufacturing jobs in America in exchange for low pay service jobs. Free trade between comparable economies is totally fine because they are competing on a level playing field -- free trade where the workers think 50 cents/day wage is awesome is a recipe for disaster for most people, and massive profit for a very select few.

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  10. hillary haters are sad... by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    they bring up Benghazi, a non story (1)
    there are some minor scandals, like travelgate (2)
    there are some deranged fantasy arguments like vince foster suicide (3)
    that all you got ?

    maybe she has some small skeletons, but you compare her to the crazys (T Cruz , R Paul) the right wing guys who want us all to be underpaid slaves (S Walker) the retread of the past (J Bush)...HIllary stands head and shoulders over these midgets

    1) the republicans in congress *created their own committee* which they *ran*
    and the committee investigated and found ....zilch

    2) ok, innuendo aside, someone fired a few timeservers in the whitehouse. Bush started a war for no reason that killed 4,000 americans, cost well north of a trillion, and destabilized the mideast...

    3) If you think this is an issue, I have a special white jacket for you

  11. Re:Voting For Hillary is Voting For China by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I forgot to mention that part. NAFTA was a very bad deal for lower-income, lower-skill workers, because it meant moving a lot of their jobs to Mexico. This is the problem with Democratic voters: they buy into the party's free-trade dogma, and then tout the stock market performance as proof that the economy is great for everyone, while ignoring the fact that stock market performance doesn't mean squat to some guy with a high school education who has a low-skilled job.

  12. Dynasties by chihowa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know that this period of the US will read about in history books as such an obvious time of corruption. The occurrence of dynasties is not a good sign of a healthy democratic republic. Save the last two terms, there has been a Bush or a Clinton as President since 1989. Counting VP, they've occupied those two offices since 1981. If you start to count Secretary of State and such, these two families have held top offices continuously for nearly 35 years. And the next race may well be a Bush vs a Clinton, again.

    Of the more than 100 million eligible citizens in the US, is the best candidate for President another Bush or Clinton? Really???

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  13. Benghazzzzzzzzi by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing came of all the Benghazi investigations, and most of the others. Innocent until proven guilty. And the laws about email at the time were vague. Yes, what she did is a bad practice, but many other politicians made the same error in judgement.