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Hillary Clinton Declares 2016 Democratic Presidential Bid

An anonymous reader writes In a move that surprised no one, Hillary Clinton has officially announced she is entering the 2016 race for the White House. According to the Times: "Ending two years of speculation and coy denials, Hillary Rodham Clinton announced on Sunday that she would seek the presidency for a second time, immediately establishing herself as the likely 2016 Democratic nominee. 'I'm running for president,' she said with a smile near the end of a two-minute video released just after 3 p.m. 'Everyday Americans need a champion. And I want to be that champion,' Mrs. Clinton said. 'So I'm hitting the road to earn your vote — because it's your time. And I hope you'll join me on this journey.'"

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  1. Hell No Hillary by klueless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please don't vote for Hillary just because she is a woman. We can't continue the oligarchy that is the US government leadership.

    1. Re:Hell No Hillary by Nyder · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nope, I'm going to vote for Hillary because unlike most other person running, she isn't overly corrupt and she's not bat shit crazy. She may not be perfect, but I have more faith in her ability to lead this nation then any other candidate currently.

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    2. Re:Hell No Hillary by Lord+Kano · · Score: 4, Informative

      By all means, you may vote for whomever you choose but please don't lie about it.

      Hillary Clinton is one of the most corrupt politicians who has ever been on the national scene. Her job during her husband's administration was to orchestrate the harassment and character assassination of the women who were sexually assaulted by her husband.

      LK

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    3. Re:Hell No Hillary by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      By all means, you may vote for whomever you choose but please don't lie about it.

      Hillary Clinton is one of the most corrupt politicians who has ever been on the national scene. Her job during her husband's administration was to orchestrate the harassment and character assassination of the women who were sexually assaulted by her husband.

      LK

      You got an proof with that? Because what I hear is the same old bullshit I've hear republicans say since Clinton was in office. And I don't actually care much, because the sex shit with Clinton was no fucking big deal at all, it's like when you are arguing with someone and they start picking on your grammar. You have nothing else on the Clintons, 'cept this one minor sex shit and it's blown out of proportion. Fuck, the VP is way the fuck more creepy then Clinton ever was, at least Clinton has the decency to not hit on women during their husbands speech.

      So unless you have some real proof of bad shit, fuck off. I'm tired of the weak excuses you people bring.

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    4. Re:Hell No Hillary by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 5, Informative

      unlike most other person running, she isn't overly corrupt and she's not bat shit crazy.

      What the fuck? Whitewater? Travelgate? Filegate? Character assassinations during the Lewinsky scandal? (which she said was a just a big right wing conspiracy right up until Bill admitted to it) Benghazi? Doing official government business on a private email server?

      And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

    5. Re:Hell No Hillary by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Informative

      Totally Agree here.

      You have to be Nuts and Stupid to vote for Hillary in 2016. Especially if you're a democrat voting in a primary.

      She is easily one of the most corrupt politicians I've seen in recent memory. Hell, just looking at Wikipedia alone gives me these entries and I've probably missed a couple of them:

      Whitewater Controversy
      FBI Files Controversy
      Travel Office Controversy
      Cattle Futures Controversy
      Email Server Controversy

      The last one is the straw breaker. She knowingly hosted her Email on purpose so that she had full control over what people can see or not see regarding federal government correspondence. Her wiping the box when it was under investigation is no different to what Nixon did with the audio tapes and should disqualify her right there.

      There are better presidential candidates out there. Hell, there are better potential democrat candidates out there.

    6. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ollie North did time for less under paragraph (b): https://www.law.cornell.edu/us...

      Of course, even if it was legal to have a home server to intercept all official communications, destroying it while under subpoena is the type of shitty move that can get you 20 years if you do that when the IRS or SEC demands info. It doesn't matter if it was legal to keep the info, once it is demanded, destruction of that info is the crime.

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    7. Re:Hell No Hillary by Kohath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about the fact that she was in charge when a U.S. Ambassador was killed for the fist time in 30 years?
      How about the fact that she has zero accomplishments as Secretary of State? (Feel free to refute this by listing her accomplishments.)
      How about the fact that she has zero important accomplishments as Senator?
      How about the fact that she was put in charge of health care as First Lady and accomplished nothing?

      If you're weighing her pros and cons, what are the pros?

    8. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would any Republican be afraid of HRC? She is one in all but name. Iraq War cheerleader, surveillor, wall street's best friend. Seriously, what is there for the GOP to hate policy wise? Yeah, we know they hater her personally, but from a policy perspective, she's the dream GOP candidate.

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    9. Re:Hell No Hillary by McGruber · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm going to vote for Hillary because....she isn't overly corrupt and she's not bat shit crazy.

      That's quite a ringing endorsement.

    10. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, it's possible. It was during the Clinton administration that regulation of Credit Default Swaps was deemed unnecessary. We all saw how that worked out.

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    11. Re:Hell No Hillary by anagama · · Score: 4, Interesting

      She will raise revenue for more war and more surveillance.

      Look at this clip at 13:29 (better with context starting around 11:00) where HRC is cheerleading for the Iraq War. Her ONLY beef w/ GWB was doing tax cuts at the same time -- she openly says she wouldn't and that would leave more money for national and homeland security -- code for random foreign wars and a burgeoning NSA budget:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      So yeah, you are totally right. When she gets us into a useless random war for no fucking reason at all, she'll raise taxes. Talk about a reason to vote for her! Yummy! /sarc

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    12. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think conservatives/libertarians/Republicans are making a mistake just focusing on the death of the Ambassador and three others. To most people, it just looks like a tragic mistake.

      Better would be to focus on cover-up that followed and was used manipulate the 2012 election and resulted in the jailing of an innocent film-maker.

      Everyone makes mistakes. Blaming someone else who is then jailed just to make yourself look better is sinister.

      Focus on that.

    13. Re:Hell No Hillary by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please don't vote for Hillary just because she is a woman.,

      This election won't be about gender or any substantive issues. The only choice is going to be between Crazy and Not Crazy and Hillary wins that going away.

      The GOP doesn't have any policies to run on, they've turned into an endless fountain of negativity. Benghazi! Tax cuts! Email server! Job creators! They're anti-science, anti-abortion, anti-everything except starting another war in the Middle East.

      No one that isn't as batshit crazy as they are is going to vote for a GOP presidential candidate.

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    14. Re:Hell No Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or we could focus on how she would run the country.

      While I think the Affordable Care Act is a mess (I'd prefer some sort of true UHC), I do enjoy the expanded Medicaid. And I hope she would be forceful by vetoing anything that would remove the expanded Medicaid.

      I am concerned about SNAP being cut. While it would be cut come later this year (state waivers will be no more), I'm afraid she won't push to expand the SNAP program back to post-recession levels. I mean, didn't her husband cut a lot of people from welfare back in the 90s?

      But the biggest issue I have with her is that it feels like she is pro-war. That she wouldn't try cutting the DoD and try focusing on domestic social issues, such as helping the poor, etc. to the extent that is needed.

      To me, the top two parties, the Republicans and Democrats, feel like poison. That anyone who runs will end up being in the interest of someone other than the people. I'd rather vote for someone I wanted, rather than the lesser of two evils.

    15. Re:Hell No Hillary by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know what, maybe there's even something bad in there - but by now, I'm so fatigued by hearing the incessant parade of outrage and supposed scandal that it's like the boy who cried wolf. I'm just not listening anymore.

      It's not just with the Clintons, either. Obama has been subjected to the same stream of crap, trying to put together some sort of scandal or conspiracy, or even flat out making things up ("Obama is coming for your guns!") when they've got nothing better to go on. During the 2008 primaries, I even thought at one point "Better Obama win than Clinton, because he doesn't have that baggage, and it's better if we don't have to relive that whole deluge of minor non-scandals and animosity." It was such a ridiculously naive thought, because it had nothing to do with the Clintons personally, and everything to do with there being a Democrat in the White House.

    16. Re:Hell No Hillary by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless the link changed since you looked, it links to a google search on "clinton corruption", which really does return thirty one million, nine hundred thousand results.

      And a google search on "Bush stupid" really does return fifty-two million, eight hundred thousand results.

      That means, by your reasoning, that George Bush (and by extension his entire family, since the "clinton corruption" search is going to return more than just items on Hillary) is more than 40% more stupid than Clinton is corrupt.

      In fact, since you got me started down this road, it turns out that the search "stupid Republican" yields thirty eight million, eight hundred thousand results (with nice pictures of George Bush, Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann right across the top, indicating that the entire Republican party, all of them are seven million search results more stupid than the Clinton family is corrupt.

      To take your moronic statement one step further, shall we compare the results of the search "corrupt Republican" (21,100,000 search results) with "corrupt Democrat" (7,660,000 search results). That means, by your own logic, that Republicans, who have only existed as a party for a little more than half as long, account for THREE MOTHERFUCKING TIMES more corruption than the Democratic Party. Wow, that's a lot.

      Seriously, for a group of people that are in technology, there are a lot of Slashdot users who are some stupid sonsabitches when it comes to basic reasoning. I get that it's a tribal thing resulting from an AM talk radio cargo cult and probably some incest, but geez louise.

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    17. Re:Hell No Hillary by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't care about Bill Clinton's consensual sex life.

      I'm not talking about Monica.

      I'm talking about Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick, not to mention the other women who recanted their allegations after Hillary's forces put pressure on them.

      She victimized women who were assaulted by her husband.

      That's far worse than Bill's hanky-panky with an intern.

      LK

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    18. Re: Hell No Hillary by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nice job there of covering for the Federal Troops.

      Are you out of your fucking mind?

      Clinton and his FBI weren't evil. Just really incompetent. There was little evidence for the stuff you're slandering that cult over. But it protects 'your boy' to slander them.

      History will sort it all out, and if you want to be one of the dudes who bootlicked the Feds, that's fine. Speak out loudly and often and maybe your descendents can know.

    19. Re:Hell No Hillary by cyn1c77 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Please don't vote for Hillary just because she is a woman. We can't continue the oligarchy that is the US government leadership.

      Let me break the bad news to you now. Your choices in the presidential vote will be:
      1. Hillary Clinton,
      2. Jeb Bush,
      3. An independent candidate that will not win.

      There. Now you can ignore all of the primary drama and spend a long time thinking about who you will vote for. Note that you will be supporting an oligarchy either way!

      Look at the bright side! At least Hillary is not actually related by blood to Bill. Unlike George Sr., George Jr. and Jeb!

  2. Hooray! by Hartree · · Score: 5, Funny

    After almost 7 years of implications that I'm racist when I disagree with the surveillance and foreign policies of the current administration, I can look forward to now being called a sexist instead!

    Free at last!

  3. Re:News for nerds how? by Nyder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Much though I enjoy the multi-hundred-comment threads where we all scream at each other about politics, why is this here?

    How is this 'news for nerds'? I mean, even the summary has given up on trying to even mention technology/nerdy stuff.

    Just realized I have some good tech new for ya instead.

    First 4 episodes of Game of Thrones current season (5) have been leaked. You can find them at your favorite torrent sites, or on usenet.

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  4. Re:Hmmmmm by Beck_Neard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In America you need a huge amount of money to run for president. It's essentially impossible unless you're a billionaire or have mega campaign donations. On the republican side, only the far-right whackjobs get the campaign donations, and on the democrat side, only the corporate whores get them. Hence the results we see.

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  5. Nerds care about politics too by whistlingtony · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nerds care about politics too...

    I'm Liberal. I want clean government, an end to shitty subsidies, no corruption, representatives that actually represent me, equality and justice for all... All the usual.

    I can't stand Hillary. I actually turned myself into a Democrat (You can easily switch parties in Oregon. There's a website. it takes just a few moments.) so I could vote AGAINST Hillary in the primary. I think she's a giant tool, and a bit of a war monger. I think she'll be the same bank and war friendly President that we got out of Clinton, Bush, Bush, Obama, and Obama. She's not a progressive. She doesn't care about the little guy. She's a career politician.

    If Warren won't run, I'll vote for Bernie Sanders, the only Independant in Congress.

    To end this, I would say to you all that our country is having some problems and it's OUR fault. Large swaths of the US citizenry are political morons who vote for hot button issues (And really, when did the R's ever get rid of abortion? When did the D's ever really help the poor? They just SAY that shit, they don't mean it.) or for the "character" of a candidate. Voter turnout is really low, making it possible for candidates to play to the base instead of playing to the swing voter.... Don't blame Washington. Blame yourself. And don't give me that "I don't vote so it's not my fault" B.S. You give them your taxes and then don't hold them responsible for what they do with them. Those people make me sick....

  6. No front page for Rand Paul? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He declared last week, and wasn't on the front page. Why not? I'm guessing it's because Paul is a favorite object of man-love here on slashdot while Hillary is a favorite punching bag. You don't get many readers in to a celebration, but you get plenty of them for a pseudo lynching.

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  7. Re:Hmmmmm by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you live in a swing state, your vote pretty much doesn't count.

    There's so little chance that your vote will count that it's pretty much not worth being informed on the issues. This causes an obviously bad cycle, which is easily exploited by concentrated interests.

    If somebody was selling a product with a code-base that operated on rules this good, they'd scrap it for a rewrite. At least in a market that offers anything but a monopoly product.

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  8. Please, not another Clinton by blindseer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or another Bush. We founded this nation to get ourselves out from the rule of royal families. Of all the people that the Democrats could come up with they put her forward.

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  9. Re:Almost Time by McGruber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If it ends up being Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush,

    Who would move the US more to the right: Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush?

    My current thinking is that Hillary would.

  10. Re:So... by ranton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about all them deleted emails?

    Yawn.

    I am pretty liberal and I can hardly imagine voting Republican again for a while, but even I cannot understand why the email thing isn't a bigger deal. I guess that is because I am not a lawyer. From what I can tell, deleting potential evidence that you even think might be subpoenaed later is a crime. A pretty serious one. And the Republicans have been threatening to subpoena for those records since the scandal started.

    This doesn't seem like some little transgression to me. I think the Benghazi nonsense is just that, nonsense. But the email deletions literally seem like a jail-able offense to me. And honestly I think they should be. As far as I can tell the only reason she isn't in more trouble is because Eric Holder is a very political attorney general.

    I would love for someone to convince me this isn't a big deal, and considering the media doesn't cover this more I am probably just wrong about how bad it is. I thought the email scandal was ridiculous when it was just about using her private server, but the second she admitted to deleting the emails things just became far less trivial.

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  11. Re:Voting For Hillary is Voting For China by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All you say is true, but you should interweave into that that Clinton's penchant for free trade deals with unequal economies meant the decimation of good paying manufacturing jobs in America in exchange for low pay service jobs. Free trade between comparable economies is totally fine because they are competing on a level playing field -- free trade where the workers think 50 cents/day wage is awesome is a recipe for disaster for most people, and massive profit for a very select few.

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  12. Re:Voting For Hillary is Voting For China by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I forgot to mention that part. NAFTA was a very bad deal for lower-income, lower-skill workers, because it meant moving a lot of their jobs to Mexico. This is the problem with Democratic voters: they buy into the party's free-trade dogma, and then tout the stock market performance as proof that the economy is great for everyone, while ignoring the fact that stock market performance doesn't mean squat to some guy with a high school education who has a low-skilled job.

  13. Dynasties by chihowa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know that this period of the US will read about in history books as such an obvious time of corruption. The occurrence of dynasties is not a good sign of a healthy democratic republic. Save the last two terms, there has been a Bush or a Clinton as President since 1989. Counting VP, they've occupied those two offices since 1981. If you start to count Secretary of State and such, these two families have held top offices continuously for nearly 35 years. And the next race may well be a Bush vs a Clinton, again.

    Of the more than 100 million eligible citizens in the US, is the best candidate for President another Bush or Clinton? Really???

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  14. Benghazzzzzzzzi by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing came of all the Benghazi investigations, and most of the others. Innocent until proven guilty. And the laws about email at the time were vague. Yes, what she did is a bad practice, but many other politicians made the same error in judgement.