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Chinese Ninebot Buys US Rival Segway

An anonymous reader writes Xiaomi-backed startup Ninebot, a Chinese maker of electric-powered personal transportation products, has acquired U.S. rival Segway – the two-wheeler upright scooter which has become a running joke, synonymous with various comedic appearances (such as in U.S. sitcom Arrested Development and the 2009 comedy Paul Blart: Mall Cop), and the death of its owner at the hands of an unfortunate Segway-induced cliff fall. However Gao Lufeng, chief executive, still recognizes the potential of the Segway and has bought the U.S. company for an undisclosed amount. Lufeng confirmed that Ninebot had also secured $80mn in funding from Xiaomi and venture capital firm Sequoia Capital.

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  1. "unfortunate" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can we keep bias out of the summaries, please?

    1. Re:"unfortunate" by NatasRevol · · Score: 0

      Outside of child-molester type people, is there ever a 'fortunate' Segway-induced cliff fall?

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    2. Re:"unfortunate" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Outside of child-molester type people, is there ever a 'fortunate' Segway-induced cliff fall?

      Lawyer, congressman, lobbyist, internet troll... I can think of plenty of "fortunate" Segway-induced cliff falls.

      "Child molester" is just a lefty loaded term for "hands-on youth sex educator".

    3. Re:"unfortunate" by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Come on, you don't wish death on extreme web trolls, do you? I may wish for an accident that leaves them unable to type, and/or being out-trolled by a yet worse troll that leaves them crying, but not death.

    4. Re:"unfortunate" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who works for or owns stock in SCO?

    5. Re:"unfortunate" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "fortune", Noun.
      1. An unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another

      So yes, this one. He presumably knew there was a cliff there, and made some kind of error in regards to steering, possibly due to the terrain. Either way, it was unpredictable that he would mistakenly reverse off a cliff. He didn't exactly roll a die, but he did gamble.

      Outside of this one, the answer depends on how many other Segway-induced cliff falls there have been, and whether they were caused deliberately, by stupidity, or by mistake.

    6. Re:"unfortunate" by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Maybe it wasn't an accident. Maybe the Segway itself committed suicide and the death of the guy was simply collateral damage.

  2. Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Take a city tour on a Segway, and you'll never want to do a walking tour again. RIP Segway, hello Seg-ray.

    1. Re:Segways are awesome by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you're obese or out of shape, I guess. For the rest of us, a walking tour is good exercise.

    2. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 0

      If you only have a short time to see a number of different places spread out over a city a Segway may be a good idea. It can also be done on bikes but a Segway is another option.

    3. Re:Segways are awesome by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you're obese or out of shape, I guess. For the rest of us, a walking tour is good exercise.

      Perhaps, but I'm getting older and walking becomes ever more uncomfortable as my feet and legs get older. The warranty is expiring on everything and the parts just don't like the pounding. I should probably be a good boy and just "man up" and accept the discomfort for health reasons, but why have modern conveniences if you can't use them?

      Discipline Smischipline! And git your Segway off my lawn!

    4. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually _like_ to occasionally gently work my leg muscles. You are wrong. I would take a city tour on a Segway... well, no, I wouldn't even get that far, because I'm not that specific kind of ass hat.

    5. Re:Segways are awesome by hey! · · Score: 2

      If only there were a two-wheeled vehicle where your legs moved. They could even be used to *power* the device.

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    6. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Any technology can be used incorrectly. That is no reason that the technology should be banned. That is like saying forums should be banned because trolls exist.

    7. Re:Segways are awesome by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      If you have places that are spread out over a city, you'll get between them much faster on a bus or in a taxi. Segways are not particularly fast, they just free you from having to walk.

    8. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 0

      Segways are not particularly fast,

      They are faster than walking and take less physical energy to do it. If what I want to see is a mile away a Segway would be much faster than waiting for a bus and then stopping at every stop in that mile.

      they just free you from having to walk.

      That is an advantage as one does not tire as fast as when walking. Try to cover 10km in a morning walking. That is easily done on e Segway.

    9. Re:Segways are awesome by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      You'll live longer, healthier, and keep your cognitive abilities longer if you "man up."

    10. Re:Segways are awesome by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Walking: 3mph.
      Segway: 12mph.

    11. Re:Segways are awesome by Grishnakh · · Score: 0

      If you're having problems walking around, you really should see a doctor. That isn't normal unless you're elderly (80+). Just look at Harrison Ford; he's in his 70s and still in great shape. Not exercising isn't going to help anything.

      You might also want to see a podiatrist and make sure your footwear is keeping your legs aligned properly.

    12. Re:Segways are awesome by grimmjeeper · · Score: 0

      10km in a morning? Hell, I can do that easily and I'm an out-of-shape middle age guy.

    13. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 0

      I am sure you can't do that through the streets of Rome in 90 degree summer weather. That is also jogging most of the way which is not conducive to actually looking at things at your destinations. If you did that in the morning could you do the same in the afternoon? Could you do the same thing days in a row? The Segway would allow one to see many more things without becoming exhausted.

    14. Re:Segways are awesome by grimmjeeper · · Score: 0

      10km is only 6 miles. And at an average pace of 3 mi/hr walking, I can do that in 2 hours. Hell, if I stroll along at half that I can still do it easily in 4 hours before the mid day heat gets to 90.

    15. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 0

      If morning is 4 hours then that leave only two hour to actually look at the locations. So you spend 1/2 of your time getting between the things you want to see and only 1/2 of the time actually looking at them. What do you do in the afternoon? Can you cover 12 miles a day for several days in a row? If I am spending thousands of dollars on a vacation I want to see as much as possible and a Segway will help that.

    16. Re:Segways are awesome by Teppy · · Score: 2

      There is! One of these would be great exercise.

    17. Re:Segways are awesome by grimmjeeper · · Score: 1

      If I'm on a vacation that has sights which require me to walk for miles, I prep for the vacation ahead of time and don't go in the heat of the summer. If I'm on a vacation where the things I want to see are miles apart, I take a cab or other public transportation.

    18. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Good for you. Not everyone is like you. Sometimes vacation timing is constrained by jobs and/or deals. Using a Segway is an alternative to you plan. Just because using a Segway is different from what you might do does not make it wrong.

    19. Re:Segways are awesome by grimmjeeper · · Score: 2

      Good for you. Not everyone is like you.

      Funny. I was thinking the same about you.

    20. Re:Segways are awesome by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      If you're obese or out of shape, I guess. For the rest of us, a walking tour is good exercise.

      Not to mention faster...

    21. Re:Segways are awesome by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Harrison Ford...in his 70s and still in great shape.

      He has to in order to keep his job (unless he lets himself go to play Jabba).

    22. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I cover a 10-20km morning run every day. If I did it on a Segway, my belly fat would have measured 10-20 cm more...

    23. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      You seem to be arguing that there is no use for a Segway when vacationing unless one is obese or out of shape. I am arguing that it would be useful for some people who are not obese or out of shape. See the difference?

    24. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Look, the segway is a solution for people who are too lazy to walk, or for people who want to try it out as a novelty. There is nothing wrong if want to use a segway, but it isn't a solution to an existing problem. For faster travel, you can take a bike that doesn't need batteries, for getting a tour around a city it might be fun to use an alternative transport system like the segway, just like some people go sit on a yellow banana when they are at a beach, or hire a Vespa to tour around Italy, or, .... But I would still prefer just walking. I would never go on a holiday to rush from one place to the other, that would not me my definition of a holiday. I would try to be assimilated into the local population as much as possible. A segway just screams 'I'm a tourist, I'm in a hurry to look at your old buildings, move out of my way'

    25. Re:Segways are awesome by grimmjeeper · · Score: 2

      Ah. I see where you are confused. That's not what I'm arguing at all. I'm saying that walking a couple of miles isn't that big of a deal for most people. And while a Segway may be useful, it's not essential. I may like to use one but I don't need to use one. 6 miles is a reasonable morning walk for most people of even slightly below average fitness.

      You started amending your case to add more distance and multiple days, along with summer heat. And sure, those would affect one's desire to use a Segway. But it doesn't change the fact that many people can reasonably expect to do 6 miles in an average morning walk in and of itself. Thing about Rome is that it's a big city with plenty of cabs, buses, scooter rentals, and even car rentals. It probably has even more ways of making that 6 mile walk easier. I don't have to choose only between a Segway and walking. I have many choices. And while you may really be excited about using a Segway, it's not the only way to avoid walking long distances. It is one way of avoiding long walks. But not the only way.

    26. Re:Segways are awesome by RoccamOccam · · Score: 1

      Enjoy the Spanish Steps on your Segway!

    27. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Did you really want me to find this? lol

    28. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      I'm saying that walking a couple of miles isn't that big of a deal for most people.

      Twelve is not a couple.

      You started amending your case to add more distance and multiple days,

      How many vacations consist of one morning of site seeing? Many vacations are also taken in the summer. I am looking at the general case no just the specific case of a single morning on a nice cool day.

      Thing about Rome is that it's a big city with plenty of cabs, buses, scooter rentals, and even car rentals.

      Much of this comes from a vist a friend had to Rome. After about 3 days her feet were almost hamburger.

      It probably has even more ways of making that 6 mile walk easier. I don't have to choose only between a Segway and walking. I have many choices.

      Agreed, and a Segway is one of those choices.

      This is not about having to do anything. All I am saying is a Segway is a viable choice for many people. One does not have to be obese or out of shape to make using one viable. We are not as far apart as it might seem.

    29. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell man, how out of shape are you?

    30. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's talk again after a visit to a few citadel cities in Europe.
      I didn't use a Segway, but after a while I wished.

    31. Re:Segways are awesome by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      So you spend 1/2 of your time getting between the things you want to see and only 1/2 of the time actually looking at them.

      Can't speak for the OP, but I travel I choose from any of the myriad of local transport options. No dork-tron required.

      If I am spending thousands of dollars on a vacation I want to see as much as possible and a Segway will help that.

      You take a Segway on vacation with you? That must be fun at the airport.

    32. Re:Segways are awesome by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Not wrong, just stupid.

    33. Re:Segways are awesome by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I've traveled a fair bit, and I've never seen a Segway outside of gimmicky fenced in tourist locations (ie not the public street). I'm not sure where you get your Segway when traveling, you must go to different places than me.

    34. Re:Segways are awesome by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      The advantage of the segway over a bike as a tourist is that it requires a lot less concentration and is easier to stop and start. It's much easier to look at your surroundings on a segway and stop to take a closer look (and to turn sharp corners).

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    35. Re:Segways are awesome by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Maybe if the city involved has terrible public transport, and/or you are incredibly out of shape. 10km in a morning walk? That's trivial.

    36. Re:Segways are awesome by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Segways are the mobility scooter for lazy people. Admit it, and everyone will leave you alone. You are lazy - that's fine, just don't pretend you're making a rational case.

    37. Re:Segways are awesome by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Unlike most lazy Americans, I do a fair bit of hiking. I'm sure I wouldn't have any trouble.

    38. Re:Segways are awesome by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Actually for some of us its the opposite. I have arthritis. I tried for years to "man up", doing more exercise, jogging and walking more. It trashed my joints. It would have been better to take it easy, reduce to doing gentle exercise, talking gentle walks and generally not making things any worse.

      It's unfortunate that anything which isn't human powered is now associated with being lazy. Fortunately riding a bike isn't too bad for me most of the time, except when my back is playing up. I'd never use a scooter though, just because of the way I'd be judged by everyone around me. Yeah, maybe I should man up about that too.

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    39. Re:Segways are awesome by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      If you are a "Segway train" group leader, make sure to call out to pedestrians "watch out to your left, passing by" while barely missing them, instead of riding in a more appropriate place.

      That's why I use the all-terrain, off-road model of Segway while in I'm in cities. The powerful motors and oversized wheels makes it easy to just roll over all obstacles.

    40. Re:Segways are awesome by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      If you use a Segway to do a 10km morning walk then you're not really walking.

    41. Re:Segways are awesome by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      If the heat gets to 90 degrees then you have a much bigger problem on your hands, water is close to the boiling point.

      Oh wait, I bet you're one of those people using the idiotic system.

    42. Re:Segways are awesome by Swampash · · Score: 1

      If you're obese or out of shape.

      "American"

    43. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pushing 50 with a short stick. For the last year I've been using a standing desk (with a gel pad) - my back is way better than it was 2 years ago. It's also probably helped my legs and feet, but it's my lower back I notice the most.
      Use it or lose it; I'm trying to exercise more, not less, these days.

    44. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the parts just don't like the pounding.

      The jokes, they write themselves.

    45. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      I am not talking about a 10km morning walk. I am taking about doing 10k in a morning as part of a multi-day vacation where walking is only an impediment to seeing what one wants to see.

    46. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      No dork-tron required.

      I never said required but a "dork-tron" is an option.

      You take a Segway on vacation with you?

      One can also rent them in some cities.

    47. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      In your not so humble opinion. Opinions differ.

    48. Re:Segways are awesome by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Walking has demonstrable benefits, both for physical and cognitive health. "Man up" when you're 20 might mean getting off the couch and running, but when you're seventy might mean going for a stroll or doing a few reps with a five pound weight.

      Some people might have no other choice than to use a scooter - it's not necessarily laziness, but it's certainly not good for you, and people who want to live healthily as long as possible should minimize their use as much as they can.

    49. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      How about Rome.

    50. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      I am talking about moving about a city where the objective is to spend time at each location looking around. The time spent walking between location just decreases the time at each location. The other point is that I am not just talking about one morning but morning and afternoon for several days in a row. I am talking about a vacation not a marathon.

    51. Re:Segways are awesome by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Segways are the mobility scooter for lazy people.

      Generally in day-to day life I agree But there are some instances where Segways can be useful. The line between lazy and efficient is an opinion and opinions differ.

      By the way, labeling something derogatory is merely admitting that one can not make a valid argument.

    52. Re:Segways are awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. My legs work.

  3. Wasn't quite the revolution ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was supposed to change the world, but it didn't.

    But, I was in a busy downtown once and saw an older gentleman with only one leg riding on a Segway ... I bet for him, the Segway was no joke.

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    1. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replaced the warehouse bicycle... and that's about it

    2. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      It was supposed to change the world, but it didn't.

      It might this time. Chinese manufacturers may find a way to bring the price down enough to make them so common that they lose their stigma and are affordable to a larger audience.

      They could even create a commuting revolution by solving the "last mile" problem with public transportation. If you can rent them easily then you don't have to haul them on and off the bus/tram.

    3. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      I bet for him, the Segway was no joke.

      Early on I saw a guy with a cast on his leg using one at an airport, and thought it was a great use.

      Now days all I see them used for are segway based city tours or "try a segway" sideshow events at the local state fair.

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    4. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't help that the segway doesn't have the carrying capacity to cater to the people who use electric people movers the most.

    5. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      And you keep it from raining, ever. Even if it's possible on nice days, it has to work on every day of the year to be a real alternative for daily commutes.

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    6. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by JanneM · · Score: 1

      I appreciate your idea, but I don't think it's that good a fit for the Segway.

      People that can't walk a mile most likely needs their own assistance tech - a walker, a wheelchair - on the bus or train as well. And people that don't have time to walk a mile or two won't be helped by a thing that barely moves above walking speed. A bicycle rental spot (or free city bikes) would be more helpful and less costly.

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    7. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Segway's cost is largely a function of the fact that it is ridiculously over-designed. The thing has amazing build quality and a near total lack of "value engineering" or "planned obsolescence". Additionally, there is complete N+1 redundancy of nearly every major component: Two batteries, two sets of motors, two on-board computers, etc. The Chinese will drive the cost out by eliminating all the redundancy and dropping the material and assembly quality.

    8. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that people who can't walk the last mile are not the kind of people who use public transportation. People who can't even walk a mile, will have problems getting to the bus stop or train station in the first place.

    9. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Imagix · · Score: 1

      barely moves above walking speed

      Hmm.. average walking speed of a human: 3.1 mph. Segway has three speed limits, depending on usage. The lowest speed limit is 6 mph, nearly double the speed of a walking human (I'd call that more than barely), the highest speed limit is 12 mph, nearly 4 times the speed of a walking human. Pretty sure that's much better than a walking human. Sure, it's not Usain Bolt levels of speed (40+ mph.. but only sprinting), but still much better than "barely".

    10. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      What works in southern states may not work in Washington state.

    11. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Usain Bolt is fast, but not 40+mph fast. His top speed so far was about 44.7km/h, or a little under 28MPH, and that over only a 20m segment of one race.

    12. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      Put a hungry bear behind him. I bet he could hit 30km/h.

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    13. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even in California it rains too much for the Segway to be a real alternative.

    14. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      Why weren't there a dozen robotics applications based on the Segway? It runs on minimal power, seems like a logical platform for security robotics and more. There's even an ATV version that works off pavement.

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    15. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the groundbreaking part of IT (as the Segway was called in the years leading up to its announcement) was actually the array of technologies powering the Segway. Wheelchairs should all be climbing stairs at this point, that would be revolutionary.

    16. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Californians are capable of learning how to use a real rain coat. It may take us a while, but we'll learn.

    17. Re:Wasn't quite the revolution ... by epine · · Score: 1

      Put a hungry bear behind him. I bet he could hit 30km/h.

      Says a simpering herniologist.

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      Sure, I can prop up a two tonne beam with my kneecap, once.

  4. Why by Jodka · · Score: 4, Informative

    From (the last sentence of) the linked article:

    Segway last year filed a complaint to the U.S. International Trade Commission accusing Ninebot and other businesses of infringing on its patents.

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  5. and the death of its owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh, what? What is that bizarre sentence supposed to mean? That there is only one Segway scooter in the world and its owner died? Or the entire company fell off a cliff and only one person, the owner, died?

    Or did was the same person killed in two movies?

    WTF?

    1. Re: and the death of its owner by timrod · · Score: 1

      According to the article, the person who died was a British multimillionaire who was the head of the company that purchased Segway.

    2. Re: and the death of its owner by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Funny

      He isn't dead, he's just seg-faulted :-)

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    3. Re: and the death of its owner by Snufu · · Score: 2

      The Segway was framed.

    4. Re:and the death of its owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Or the entire company fell off a cliff

      English, do you speak it?

    5. Re: and the death of its owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      American/British - gravity is a harsh mistress

    6. Re:and the death of its owner by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was wondering if I missed that Kamen had bought the farm on some ill-fated attempt to jump the snake river on a segway. Oh well, one can dream.

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    7. Re:and the death of its owner by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      The summary didn't say the inventor of the Segway but the owner of the company.

    8. Re: and the death of its owner by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Yes, hence why it said the owner of the company not the inventor.

    9. Re:and the death of its owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the owner of the running joke was induced to death by the hands of Segyway Inc, which is unfortunate in some way that isn't explained.

  6. A Chinese firm bought.. Segway? by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    I'm not even mad.

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    1. Re:A Chinese firm bought.. Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't realize they were even still in business.

  7. Why have 2 wheels when you can have one? by Xoltri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Been having fun with a solowheel clone you can get on bangood and aliexpress for about $400 that is just one wheel. Have taken it camping and ran it on gravel, packed dirt, grass etc and it does a pretty good job. Super fun at campsites particularly. Even last summer in BC I used it to haul stuff to and from the car to the beach. It's infinitely more useful than a Segway since it only weighs like 21 pounds. I used to ride it through downtown on my way to work but haven't felt like it lately since it attracts so much attention, where people stop you to ask all the questions like how fast does it go (12km/h), how far does it go (10km), how much did it cost etc.

    Here's a video of when I first started learning it. I'm much more comfortable on it now, I can even pull my 2 kids in a wagon while riding it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    I never really understand the comments, particularly on a tech site like this, such as 'why don't you just walk you lazy'... For one thing walking isn't that great of exercise anyway if you are in any kind of shape (ie. not round). Secondly, this thing is twice as fast as walking and effectively doubles your range of parking options etc, and it's actually fun.

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    1. Re:Why have 2 wheels when you can have one? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Which one did you end up buying (there appear to be several of these things)? I've been interested in the Solowheel, but the price tag is a bit hefty for buying such a thing on a lark. $400 sounds much better...

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    2. Re:Why have 2 wheels when you can have one? by Xoltri · · Score: 1

      The specific one I have came from a factory called CXM. But I think this market is changing really fast. A similar one to mine is this one here: http://www.banggood.com/Wh-TG-.... It has twice the battery capacity of mine which would be helpful. Mine has taken a serious beating and is still working good aside from the plastic shell which has a few cracks. Just cosmetic though. I let anyone try it so it gets crashed a lot.

      There are other ones that have bluetooth connectivity to your smartphone so you can see capacity and stuff. The genuine solowheel ones are really nice but are so expensive and I've never tried one.

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    3. Re:Why have 2 wheels when you can have one? by samwichse · · Score: 1

      "super magnetic levitation motor"

      I wonder what that means.

    4. Re:Why have 2 wheels when you can have one? by RyoShin · · Score: 1

      I never really understand the comments, particularly on a tech site like this, such as 'why don't you just walk you lazy'

      Because, as it seems to me, there is more interest in showing others you are "superior" (look at me, I can save a bunch of money and just walk!) rather than think of all the potential benefits/uses of non-standard technology. I say "non-standard" because I have yet to see a post where someone says "Who cares about the computer, I can use an abacus and paper just fine!"

      Whether this is a nerd thing, taking our superiority in computers and thinking we're just as awesome in everything else, or a shift in the types of users that regularly use the site I don't know. The best examples of those kind of posts can be seen in any article about weight loss. You will see a myriad of posts with variations of "Just eat less and work out more", many that will be modded +5 Insightful.

  8. You could say by Snufu · · Score: 1

    Company valuation went over a cliff.

    Too soon?

  9. Re:Still Alive by Xoltri · · Score: 1
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  10. Segway tycoon Jimi Heselden cliff plunge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The multi-millionaire owner of the company that makes Segway motorised scooters has died in a freak accident while riding one of his vehicles.
    Jimi Heselden, 62, was found dead in a river after plunging 80 feet over a limestone cliff near his home.
    He was riding a rugged country version of the two-wheeled Segway when tragedy struck.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315518/Segway-tycoon-Jimi-Heselden-dies-cliff-plunge-scooters.html

  11. so now the chinese knockoffs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    will be the real deal.....

  12. Lower prices on the way? by ITRambo · · Score: 2

    Maybe the upshot to the purchase is that the Segway might now be priced in an affordable range. I'll take a Segway for 75% off, please.

  13. Rival? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Can you actually have a business rival for a product no one wants?

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    1. Re:Rival? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Rival? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you actually have a business rival for a product no one wants?

      I know, I don't want systemd, init, or upstart!

  14. Re:Still Alive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "ruggedized version" segway mayhap was more sensitive? (from the comments of your link...) : sue greenough, weymouth, dorset, 4 years ago we have just got back from Barbados where we went on the Segway machines. It was tremendous fun, but i can see the danger of getting too close to the cliff edge and falling over. the machines can go quite fast and are very sensitive to turning left, right forward and backwards with the the slightest touch on the steering column. Very sad news. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

  15. Re:Still Alive by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

    The summary didn't say the inventor of the Segway. It said the owner of the company. If you're going to try to be pedantic at least have an elementary school level of reading comprehension.

  16. Cinematographers rejoice by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    The Segway is already being used to great effect by filmmakers working in close quarters. A handheld active gimbal like the DJI Ronin (and its cheaper, lighter, new brother, the "M" version), rigged on a Segway, and you've got the ability to do some very cool tracking shots. All without having to do a lot of the elaborate staging that might otherwise have been needed, and without needing a as large a crew transporting, deploying, and operating more traditional equipment.

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    1. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      without needing a as large a crew transporting, deploying, and operating more traditional equipment.

      so its just all about union busting and taking people's jobs, as usual

    2. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      so its just all about union busting and taking people's jobs, as usual

      You're right. We should absolutely stop people who have smaller budgets from risking their own money to create films, because if they don't have enough cash to hire several union guys to stand around and not operate equipment that isn't useful for the shoot, then they should not be allowed to make films.

      OK, so you're trolling. I get it. You don't really think that union buggy whip artisans should still have those jobs even though we don't need thousands of new buggy whips every year. Or DO you think that? I guess you might. Which makes you an idiot, not just a troll.

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    3. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      Examples? The only movies anybody cares about are Hollywood movies, Hollywood TV shows, and Youtube commentators. And I can't imagine any of them using a Segway.

      It seems to me the difficulty in precise camera control would make the Segway a poor choice for the purpose.

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    4. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Here you go. Some of these guys have six-figure camera rigs riding on a Segway. There are practical reasons for that in some situations, even with very large budget productions. Not every physical space lends itself to traditional full-sized cranes and dollies on rails, etc.

      https://www.google.com/search?...

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    5. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      So, from looking at the first few pages of google results, the only example is Resident Evil: Afterlife? That suggests it's a very uncommon practice...

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    6. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by Gibgezr · · Score: 1

      They are seeing even more use on large budget Hollywood movies because of 3D; a regular Steadicam is very very difficult to work with if you strap the large 3D cameras to it, so the pros who specialize in Steadicam shots have been using Segway/Steadicam combos, where the weight of the Steadicam is supported by the Segway. It is, in fact, extremely common.

      Since you want examples from crappy crass mass-media: Eurovision! https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      That demonstrates the "step-off" maneuver, where the Segway is used for the intro rolling shot, then the operator steps off the Segway and continues the smooth shot on foot. Good for chase scenes into forest etc as well, where they use off-road tires and ride the Segway down a path until it's time to step off into the woods.

      Here is pro Steadicam operator Larry McConkey, talking about his first use of a Segway, for Martin Scorcese's "Hugo":
      "The crane on the electric camera car with the stabilized head at the front was a scary-looking machine. It took a lot of time to safely get a shot up to speed. I was looking for a way to move my much smaller rig quickly through the set, without running—that just wasn’t going to happen with this beast. I called Chris Fawcett, a Steadicam Operator in Holland. Chris brought his Handsfree Transporter 2, a Segway modified for Steadicam use, and taught me how to ride it. We then made some modifications: a seat to allow a very low operating position, fenders to protect the 3D rig (courtesy of the extremely skillful special effects department), and mounting for video transmitter, batteries and my gyro kit. Chris now offers his own modified version of a Segway, the Steadiseg, based partly on those mods.

      When it came time to do a POV of the dog racing through the station, I told Bob I could do it. Could I? This was a big movie, and the rig was very heavy and I was inexperienced with the Segway should I really be trying this? I took a deep breath and went for it. Marty was at the other end of the stage. After several rehearsals, building up speed with each one, I did the first take, and I immediately heard yelling. “What’s that?” I asked Bob, as he met me returning from the run.

      “I guess it’s not working out”, he said, “Marty’s not happy”.

      I was crestfallen. Then a moment later: “Just kidding—he loved it!” Marty was excited to shoot so quickly and easily. Up to then camera car shots through crowds with the 3D rigs had been an exercise in extreme patience."

    7. Re:Cinematographers rejoice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3D was mostly stillborn. No one was interested in it. I'd consider 3D a black mark on my resume as a DP.

  17. Even more funny in Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese on Segway clones is even more funny. Hope they fall off a cliff too.

  18. The Revolution hasn't arrived yet by popo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This tech is soon going to be coupled with:

    a) Robots
    b) Self driving 2-wheel vehicles

    But here's the more important takeaway from this:

    Ninebot stole Segway's technology. Segway sued them and the case went nowhere as Ninebot's profits soared. Then Ninebot bought Segway.

    See the business model here?

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    1. Re:The Revolution hasn't arrived yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robot Segways have been around for at least a decade. They're scary as hell. Imagine a Segway with an end table mounted on it. Except because the inverted pendulum is half as tall as a person it must be much heavier for the Segway to balance. So the table top is a 1/2 inch thick sheet of steel with additional weights bolted underneath. And the failure mode of the robot when it crashes or someone hits the e-stop is to fall over like a guillotine. Ours drew blood more than once and I wouldn't be surprised if people in other labs ended up with shattered bones.

    2. Re:The Revolution hasn't arrived yet by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They didn't steal Segway's technology, they allegedly infringed some of their patents. The infringement was never proven and examination of the Ninebot hardware suggests that they found work-arounds for them.

      Ninebot's genius was to make a product 80% as good but about 20% the cost. Segways were always too expensive and they were relying on no-one else figuring out how to bypass their patents. The principals of operation were well understood before Segway came along; their patents mostly cover the human interface aspects.

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    3. Re:The Revolution hasn't arrived yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the lawsuit, I see it exactly.

      Sue your competitor so that they'll buy you and you can get out of the business more or less intact.

      One former employer of mine did just that because the founder was tired of running a company.

  19. iBot? by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, they'll be manufacturing iBots, too.

    For those who don't know, the technology behind Segway was originally developed for use by the ultimate robotic wheelchair. The last iteration before manufacturing was shut down (iBot 4000) could climb stairs, effortlessly navigate curbs, raise the user to eye-level by going up on 2 wheels a-la-Segway, drop down to 4 wheels for extra stability/traction (like at the beach, in grass, etc). I believe it even had a feature that allowed it to automatically climb onto its rack on the back of the user's car after he moved himself into the front seat & return to the car door after parking at the destination.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...

    1. Re:iBot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia says it's independent of Segway, with the rights owned by J&J. Also, that Kamen said they'd be starting production again now that the FDA has eased back the regulation a bit.

  20. China is Taking Over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have the most powerful supercomputer, they are starting to buy US businesses out. Their growth rate is still 7%. They have the largest online population in the world. It's looking alot like China are going to be retaining their number 1 spot for a lonnnnnnnnng time.

    1. Re:China is Taking Over by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      I thought Segway got bought out by a UK guy prior to this?

      But the UK doesn't have the most powerful supercomputer and lost their number 1 spot a long time ago....

  21. Re:Still Alive by sexconker · · Score: 1

    No, it said "the death of its owner", referring to "the two-wheeler upright scooter". The summary starts off referring to Segway as a company, but after a hyphen it refers to an individual scooter.

    Further, the article never says who the owner (of Segway or "the two-wheeler upright scooter") is (or was), so your accusation that people are confusing the inventor for the owner is misguided. They may be conflating the two, as many people saw the inventor as the face of he Segway (both the scooter brand and the company behind it), and presuming him to be the owner of the company. There is no indication of confusion with regards to what the article meant (the owner of the company or the inventor of the device), however. Such confusion would be limited to the ambiguity caused by referring to Segway as a company and referring to it as an individual device, and would result in people not knowing if the owner of the company died or if the owner of an individual Segway (or the only Segway) died.

  22. rival? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wasn't aware that Segway had a rival. I learned something new.

  23. Segway-like unicycles by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2

    "It might this time. Chinese manufacturers may find a way to bring the price down enough to make them so common that they lose their stigma and are affordable to a larger audience."

    They already have. Or maybe they haven't. There's technically nothing standing in the way of building cheaper models or clones. Google for: segway unicycle. You'll get links and photos of devices (seems quite odd calling these things vehicles) that look like a Segway without the handles, or a skateboard where you stand facing straight forward rather than sideways. Maybe the gyro patents (as these appear to be the main technical "innovation" of the Segway system) are standing in the way of a massive price drop? They should cost no more than a mid-range laptop at Chinese prices.

  24. LOL, another chinese takeover. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have noticed a lot of Chinese companies buying their rivals in US.

    I hope this isn't a pattern.