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LA Schools Seeking Refund Over Botched iPad Plan

SternisheFan sends news that Los Angeles Unified School District is asking Apple for a refund of the district's effort to equip students with iPads. The project was budgeted at around $1.3 billion to equip its 650,000 students, though only about 120,000 iPads have been purchased so far. After the program went bad, the FBI launched an investigation into their procurement practices. The iPads weren't standalone education devices — they were supposed to work in conjunction with another device carrying curriculum from a company named Pearson. But the district now says the combined tech didn't meet their needs, and they want their money back. Lawyers for the local Board of Education are looking into litigation options. They've also notified Apple and Pearson they won't pay for any new products or services.

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  1. Deflection by halivar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They wasted the money fruitlessly and want a mulligan. No. Give someone in procurement a pink slip and eat some humble pie. Own your mistakes.

    1. Re:Deflection by halivar · · Score: 2

      I get it. I don't want to, but I get it. :(

    2. Re:Deflection by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Usually in these school procurement cases there is some third-party company behind the mess when you dig into it. And you find that either they sold some gullible school officials on a bunch of bullshit promises or they bribed them, or both. Either way, the company walks away with the money, the gullible officials are never reprimanded, and the only ones who pay the price are the taxpayers who have to foot the bill and the students who have to use old books because they were supposed to be using the SuperPad-Gonna-Solve-All-Your-Problems-Learning-WonderDevice instead of new ones.

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    3. Re:Deflection by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wait I have a solution to this problem.
      1. Run a test.. You could call it a pilot program in one school.
      2. The company that wants the contract pays for the pilot or at least half of it.
      When it fails you do not have a missive program fail and it costs a lot less.
      This is brilliant. I wonder why no one thought of this before.

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    4. Re: Deflection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No can do. You can't wait on this, the students need it now.

      So just fork over the big government check and trust us, the representatives of commerce and industry.

    5. Re:Deflection by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 2

      Who's running the test? My guess is that it won't be scientists. It will probably be the same people who are ultimately responsible for the fuckups that necessitated the test to begin with. And now with a new testing requirement there are more job openings to fill with some of their friends, and probably a pay raise to go with the increased responsibility.

    6. Re:Deflection by jbolden · · Score: 2

      In 2013 the superintendent was of the "deploy as quickly as possible" and just keep fixing till it works. Sort of an agile mentality of minimal viable product and build. He considered speed essential and was cool with the fact other infrastructure wouldn't be in place in time, this was his top priority. When he left the iPad project had the same schedule but not the institutional juice of being the first priority.

    7. Re:Deflection by blue9steel · · Score: 2

      One might even suggest we get all science-y and have a control group, evaluation criteria, test for statistical validity, check for confounding factors and other seemingly sensible steps.

    8. Re:Deflection by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      Desperation, methinks. There's been one high-level, err, 'resignation' from this already (because Pearson basically screwed the pooch and yet no one can peg them for blame thanks to the contract), and lots of other executives are nervously eying the newspapers and school board minutes of late...

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  2. Wow. Just wow. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Informative

    The iPads weren't standalone education devices â" they were supposed to work in conjunction with another device carrying curriculum from a company named Pearson. But the district now says the combined tech didn't meet their needs, and they want their money back.

    So... They didn't test the iPad / content combo to establish usability / feasibility / usefulness prior to dropping all this cash?

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    1. Re:Wow. Just wow. by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

      Testing is what those square old mainframe daddies - the ones who witter on about aida and cowbell and 4tran - do.

      It's not agile.

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    2. Re:Wow. Just wow. by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Based on what's been posted, Pearson (and, presumably Apple) promised a product/curriculum combination with essentially a custom use case in mind, the district purchased based on the sales literature, and then Pearson couldn't deliver what they promised. It's called false advertising and Pearson may be left holding the bag if the allegations are true and hold up in court.

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    3. Re:Wow. Just wow. by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is common in education. You rarely see any kind of pilot project or scientifically valid feasibility work. Education as a field is mostly a philosophy-based practice and is only now starting to dabble in evidence-based decision making.

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    4. Re:Wow. Just wow. by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The iPads weren't standalone education devices â" they were supposed to work in conjunction with another device carrying curriculum from a company named Pearson. But the district now says the combined tech didn't meet their needs, and they want their money back.

      So... They didn't test the iPad / content combo to establish usability / feasibility / usefulness prior to dropping all this cash?

      Anyone with half a brain could see that this whole thing had FIASCO written all over it in bright red letters. The whole thing reeks of one giant scam.

      -- The school district signed an initial $30 million deal with Apple in a program that was supposed to eventually cost up to $1.3 billion. As part of the program, the LA School District would buy iPads from Apple at $768 each

      You can go into any store an buy the most expensive iPad for $699. The school system is spending a billion dollars and didn't negotiate a discount on the price? They're actually paying $79 over retail !!?? What the fucking fuck.

      -- and then Pearson, a subcontractor with Apple, would provide math and science curriculum for the tablets at an additional $200 per unit.

      $200 per unit for some shitty software? You've now jacked up the price to nearly a thousand dollars per iPad. Again, they're spending a billion dollars and don't negotiate a discount?

      -- Less than 2 months after the program started, the school district reported that one-third of the 2,100 iPads distributed during the initial rollout of the program, had gone missing.

      Seriously? You didn't see this coming from a mile away?

      -- And best of all, the schools district's Assistant Superintendent, essentially the number 2 person in charge of the entire school system, is a former executive with Pearson, the company providing the software, and he was heavily involved in helping Pearson land the contract..

    5. Re:Wow. Just wow. by orasio · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here in Uruguay, they got the OLPC. There is no market, and it works great.
      All kids in public school have their own, you see them using them on the streets, public squares. It has its application in classes, and most importantly, it was instrumental in connecting all schools with quality internet service, allowing for remote classes, that kind of thing. It was a success in many regards.

      Private schools, on the other hand, are subject to market forces and stuff, but are usually pretty poor in their decision making. For example, my kids goes to a private kinder, and their usage of computers is pretty dumb, they still have a computer lab kind of thing, mainly because they weren't wise enough to get a complete solution. Public spending was a lot better around here.

    6. Re:Wow. Just wow. by NotDrWho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The best way to make sure the person taking care of something does their job is to allow them to own it and force them to compete in an actual market.

      You mean the kind of competition that had U.S. banks handing out mortgages to anyone with a pulse a few years ago? Yeah, capitalism in action! Just watch the free market benefit us all!

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    7. Re:Wow. Just wow. by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

      But the school system wasn't the one doing the development - Pearson was. OK, perhaps the school system did spend money rolling out wireless, etc. on their school campuses, but that can be used for lots of other purposes so it isn't a wasted spend. From the summary, and having not read the article in slashdot tradition, it seems that indeed Pearson made promises of rainbows and unicorns and delivered a sick donkey with a MLP tattoo on it.

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    8. Re:Wow. Just wow. by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's all relative. Private schools are bad at decision making because people in general are bad at decision making. The only thing worse than a human making a decision, is when the human making the decision is not bound by the costs and benefits of his/her decision. Humans that only suffer the costs of a decision will fail to make good decisions that have reasonable costs. Humans that only receive the benefits of their decisions will not filter decisions with unreasonable costs.

      Yes it's true that when people's own profit is on the line, they sometimes cheap out and end up worse off.

      What is far more prevalent is people spending other people's money and not giving 2 shits about whether the money is being well spent, because it doesn't effect them.

    9. Re:Wow. Just wow. by bhcompy · · Score: 2

      Look to Atlanta to see what being objectively measured means. You're requiring teachers to be parents. You can only educate so much when the home life is a disaster

    10. Re:Wow. Just wow. by SimplyGeek · · Score: 2

      And they paid the price when they failed. That's the free market at work. Company takes a big risk and loses? It goes out of business. The problem we have in the US is that the government then bailed out the banks with our tax money. There's nothing free market about that.

    11. Re:Wow. Just wow. by Daniel+Hoffmann · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is just plain wrong, I am Brazilian and my mother is a teacher in São Paulo state public schools and the situation is horrible, what you see overseas are the high school grads that went to private schools in Brazil, the average citizen can not afford to go to school overseas even if they qualify (and they don't because they do not speak any foreign language) because some costs are not covered (visas for example).

      What you are seeing is just the upper middle class latin americans leaving their crappy country for something better, they are the ones that can afford decent education. The situation for the ones that stay is really, really bad. Most public high school students would fail a basic reading test, in fact so many people fail the (very easy) drivers license written exam that it is common to hear histories about bribes to pass them. Americans complain about creationism taught in high schools, we complain about people not being able to do basic math.

    12. Re:Wow. Just wow. by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

      Having a wife who is a teacher it sounds like you have things nailed. Lots of new fads most of which are little better than hope. Granted part of the problems in education is from parents who don't give a shit, as well as children who don't give a shit, but there is still a lot of BS from the education administration. With my kids it has been let the schools teach what they can, then spend the time to actually really teach them things properly and fill in the large quantity of gaps left by teaching to the test.

      My oldest who is now in first grade has a surprisingly good understanding of how things work and even some very abstract concepts, all of which were not covered in school. For example they covered some very basic geology in school, and he got interested so I entertained that for a while and we went out and collected some fossils, checked out some strata of land on exposed rock faces, went into detail on the different types of rocks, etc all to provide a better education. I even melted some rocks and made some new ones in some experiments to show what happens when they cool at different rates (besides if you have a forge any excuse to use it is a good excuse).

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    13. Re:Wow. Just wow. by losfromla · · Score: 2

      Really? They paid? I though we the taxpayers paid when they were handed bailouts.
      Your last two sentences contradict your first four, make up your mind. yo.

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    14. Re:Wow. Just wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True, but this doesn't actually negate NotDrWho's point. Capitalist purists often imply, or outright say, that Capitalism will produce the right outcomes, regardless of any other factor. This is an example of where it did not.

      I'd also point out that one financial institution was allowed to fail: Lehman Brothers.

      Almost immediately, many prominent persons and financial commentators roundly criticized the Fed for not saving Lehman. They said the financial crisis could have been stopped, or greatly reduced, by propping up Lehman Brothers. These were, to a man and woman, great "believers" in the purity of capitalism. Prior to the collapse all of them spoke strongly against any regulatory control, government oversight, capital reserves, and all the rest. The Market will Resolve Everything.

      Their belief system proved to be both shallow and insubstantial.

    15. Re:Wow. Just wow. by dcollins · · Score: 2

      That does sound bad and you have my sympathies.

      But on the other hand I do teach a remedial basic arithmetic class here in New York City and today I had a roomful of college students, none of whom could even give an estimate for the value of 6 3/4 x 2 1/3. The U.S. culture is very jungle-y, poor folks are kind of thrown to the wolves, and we're perennially at the bottom of international rankings in math and science (and also low pay and preparation and support for teachers).

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  3. Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We realized spending 1.3 billion on toys for kids was a bad idea. We're going to makeup excuses why we should get our money back.

  4. It's the school's fault by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These people had no idea what they were getting into and obviously just wanted to have their students carrying tablets around so they'd look like Starfleet Academy. In addition to the corruption that went on, this project was doomed from the start. I doubt they were able to express any clear requirements to the vendors they were working with and probably didn't have any actual plan for how the technology would be leveraged in the classroom. I've seen it a dozen times in schools with inept management. Those who can, do. Those who can't....

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    1. Re:It's the school's fault by magarity · · Score: 2

      They didn't want to look like Starfleet Academy. They wanted to look like a rich suburb:

      the technology effort was a civil rights imperative designed to provide low-income students with devices available to their wealthier peers

      Civil rights have come a long way if having iPads is now one. Do people even know what civil rights are anymore?

  5. shocker by slashmydots · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Back that train up to the point where they initially picked iPads over Rockchip, Google Nexus, Avatar, Dell Venue, anything from ASUS, the Samsung note series, and about 5 other solid competitors. All of those were cheaper, sufficiently fast, cheaper, more durable, cheaper, more serviceable, and CHEAPER. That's how you know the entire project was crooked and completely derailed from the System Development Life Cycle process.

    Whether the guy in charge was a criminal-level Apple fanboy bordering on mental illness or getting some sort of crooked kickback is still being determined in court but if they want a refund, look to the guy who fucked up the whole project in the first place. The vendors certainly won't give you anything. They'll just blame him.

    1. Re:shocker by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Informative

      My kid's STEM school used Dell Chromebooks. They are very useful for doing what is needed, creating reports, researching information, submitting homework, and occasional collaborative activities. They are not a mainstay of the educational day, but a tool used at the appropriate time.

    2. Re:shocker by slashmydots · · Score: 2

      The way I heard it, they were ebook readers with web browsers. That's all they used them for. An Avatar Sirius version 2 could do that for $85 and that's not the bulk price I get from my vendor.

    3. Re:shocker by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      We thought them chromebooks was gonna have some chrome on them, but no shiny chrome... we should sue too.

  6. Sign off. by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The exec who signed off on it should get the pink slip. Not the person in procurement.

    If you don't understand the plan, don't sign off on it.

    1. Re:Sign off. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The superintendent at the time 'resigned' over the controversy; but depending on the outcome of the FBI's ongoing investigation into the circumstances of the bidding process, he may or may not be looking at further consequences.

      Pearson is a company that brings a sort of defense contractor vibe to the educational sector. They are huge, superb at landing contracts, excellent at writing contracts that promise somewhat less than they appear to; but not so hot on delivering, much less on time or on budget.

      Anyone buying a zillion ipads for school children without realizing that they'll be using them mostly to screw around on the internet within about five minutes is certainly an idiot; and Pearson certainly can't take the blame for that; but their failure to deliver some curriculum slurry and a terrible textbook app or two within the agreed upon time? That's the sort of thing they do.

    2. Re:Sign off. by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 3, Funny

      As a general rule, LAUSD will do which ever option is worse. If you are unsure of which option is better, the safe bet is to just pick the opposite of what LAUSD decided to do.

    3. Re:Sign off. by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Informative

      Which is why when a vendor asks us to enable integration for their stuff - and Pearson is one of 'em with their myFooLab emporium, I always tell 'em three things.

      1) I don't work for $vendor - so no, I don't "have to" or "need to" do anything for them

      2) We only accept requests from faculty or departments who have decided to adopt the resource, not from the sales person or vendor tech support folks. Again, see #1

      3) The product must not be in beta or "brand new last week", and I must see it work on their system, our course management vendor's system (used for demos), or get good reports from other LMS Admins at other schools

      Have had several unhappy vendors/sales folks, but have had minimal issues about promised features not working, existing, etc.

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    4. Re:Sign off. by blue9steel · · Score: 2

      Procurement in many organizations is supposed to verify that management understands what they are buying.

      They're supposed to verify that the order placed is what the manager wants rather than just what they asked for, but that's not the same thing as ensuring they understand the purchase, not at all. Management is in charge of strategy, they get the credit and the blame.

    5. Re: Sign off. by jd2112 · · Score: 2

      Hey, it sounded good on the golf course.

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    6. Re:Sign off. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      bool
      procurement.proccessIsCorrupt(void)
      {
          return (vendor == "Pearson" || vendor == "Oracle") ? CERTAINLY : PROBABLY;
      }

    7. Re:Sign off. by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, until the details of how the contract was awarded and how the vendor failed have been thoroughly investigated, it's premature to fire anyone.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accountability and decisiveness, but picking someone plausible and throwing them under the bus isn't accountability. In fact that may actually shield whoever was responsible.

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  7. Buyer's remorse by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So wait, you fucked up, and now you want us to pay for it?

    No, see, here's what happened: School decides they want product X which works with product Y. Product X sucks; product Y is not defective. School has legitimate claim about product X not delivering; product Y is your fault, and you don't go back to the supplier and make them eat the cost.

    The school may have a claim against Pearson, since they delivered shoddy, half-ass work. The school has no claims against Apple, since Apple supplied a device not designed to do what the school wanted, and the school intended to extend it with Pearson's product.

    There's a real lesson about bad project management and buyer's remorse here; and, looking back, they're ignoring old and proven lessons about not trying to fix education with unrelated technology. The only technology that belongs in education is education: education methods are a technology, and they are the technology for education.

    Until you have an education methodology that shows good, scientific basis and utilizes your fancy toys, you're just throwing toys into education. For example: Japan uses a mathematics curriculum teaching students to use complementary number computation techniques, driven by the exemplary platform of a machine called a Soroban; a Soroban would be a ridiculous toy to bring into the classroom if you were not teaching using these computation techniques and trying to leverage the visual and mechanical aspect of learning by soroban (I've done some self-teaching without the soroban, and learned the same techniques; there are, however, scientific reasons to bring a soroban to the table). If they're just doing workbook activities BUT ON AN IPADZ!!!! and not doing anything known to improve education when an iPad is involved, the iPad is a fucking toy not appropriate in education.

    It's worth noting there's a school of educational research suggesting that introducing young children to high technology is actively bad, and that high technology should be taught outright after age 10-12 rather than used as a platform to deliver old teaching methods. Small children need most to learn socialization; they need to interact with other children, and not isolate themselves to curriculum. I have my own educational theory which extends this: small children need most to learn techniques of utilizing the brain effectively, set in an environment of free socialization, so as to develop their social behaviors while also giving them tools to rapidly and effectively learn curriculum. In all of these advanced schools of thought, and in mine, you see that pattern: humans need to learn human behavior first, then learn high technology as a tool; wrapping books in fancy electronics won't suddenly make education better.

    This is like the 90s when everyone's answer to everything related to computer security was "ENCRYPTION!" Now everyone's answer to every education problem is "COMPUTERS!"

    1. Re:Buyer's remorse by jbolden · · Score: 2

      My daughter's school uses tablets. Very simple..

      1) Teachers distribute materials via. a Google share system tied to a school based Google docs account
      2) Kids submit homework via. this system
      3) Some classes the materials are useful in class, when it is they kids can use their own tablets or one of the school's Chromebooks.
      3') There are iPads when interface is best used in a casual touch, shared way in place of the Chromebooks.

      Works well. Gets used just like it is used in life.

    2. Re:Buyer's remorse by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can't digg up the original contract to check; but some of the stories state that they are going to Apple because the deal was to purchase 'iPad+software', as a packaged product, from Apple. By all accounts Pearson was the significant weak link (not a shock, that's pretty typical for them), while Apple's stuff suffered only from the fairly pitiful state of iOS management; but the school district didn't structure the deal as 'Contract #1, buy ipads, Contract #2, buy textbook apps'; it was a package, and their claim is that half the package was rotten and the other half is of little use to them without the underdelivered component.

      Given that Apple is reputed to be a brutal and efficient taskmaster of its suppliers, I'd imagine that either the school district will fail, or Apple will gouge it out of Pearson; but to the best of my understanding there is logic behind complaining to Apple, given the terms under which the devices were purchased.

  8. That's correct. by Pollux · · Score: 3, Informative

    So... They didn't test the iPad / content combo to establish usability / feasibility / usefulness prior to dropping all this cash?

    Correct. As it says in the LA Times article, "The district selected Pearson based only on samples of curriculum — nothing more was available."

  9. They were actually unhappy with Pearson. by tlambert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They were actually unhappy with Pearson.

    The article makes this very clear. It wouldn't matter if the Pearson Curriculum were on an iPad or an Android device, they'd still be unhappy with it. The attachment of Apple to the story is a means of click-baiting it. Pretty clear in the quotes from their attorney:

    L.A. schools Supt. Ramon C. Cortines “made the decision that he wanted to put them on notice, Pearson in particular, that he’s dissatisfied with their product,” said David Holmquist, general counsel for the nation’s second-largest school system. He said millions of dollars could be at stake.

    In a letter sent Monday to Apple, Holmquist wrote that it “will not accept or compensate Apple for new deliveries of [Pearson] curriculum.” Nor does the district want to pay for further services related to the Pearson product.

    Pretty ringing condemnation of Pearson's products by the school district; note that the Pearson products might not eve be at fault, given that the complaint was that it didn't help with the standardized testing scores.

    1. Re:They were actually unhappy with Pearson. by edjs · · Score: 2

      They were actually unhappy with Pearson.

      The article makes this very clear. It wouldn't matter if the Pearson Curriculum were on an iPad or an Android device, they'd still be unhappy with it.

      The contract was with Apple, with Pearson as a subcontractor, so even if the fault is all with Pearson, it's Apple that's responsible to the school district; beyond that it's between Apple and Pearson. And as primary, Apple should have been on top of Pearson to deliver their vaunted total user experience.

      As an aside, all three of the final bidders used Pearson, so yes, it was doomed regardless of the underlying hardware.

  10. Something is surely wrong with us... by bogaboga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am saddened and feel I want to kick something. From the summary: -

    "...But the district now says the combined tech didn't meet their needs , and they want their money back..."

    Emphasis mine.

    Is it just me who sees something wrong here? So, no feasibility study was done? Who approves these things? It was very evident that this whole thing wouldn't work. Look, we hire lots of foreigners in this country, who do so well not because they were using these educational gimmicks wherever they came from, but because most of them put pen to paper and wrote something.

    Heck, our students can't even write [English] well despite it being their first language! Then there is the damage done by the so called Common Core. What is wrong with these United States? You know what? When it comes to the way we teach, I am not surprised the products of our educational system go on to make such shortsighted decisions. God save us.

  11. And that's why we have pilot programs, kids by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work in education, and the idea that you'll just roll out a new tech to hundreds of thousand of kids is just asinine. Start small, work the bugs out, then go big. Especially if you're deploying tablets, trying to manage them is like herding cats. Apple's made some progress in that area, but they're still a huge PIA to manage. I hope there's a serious, ie external, investigation into who drove this fiasco. While incompetence on this scale isn't unimaginable, I suspect shenanigans. Follow the money.

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  12. Pearson by jbolden · · Score: 3, Informative

    Summary didn't mention this but Pearson is a huge global education player. Just a few of their brands: Addison–Wesley, BBC Active, Bug Club, eCollege, Fronter, Longman, MyEnglishLab, Penguin Readers, Prentice Hall, Poptropica and Financial Times Press. So I don't see how LA Unified is going to avoid them.

    As for this not meeting their needs... Reading the article LA Unified seems completely clueless. The contract was $768 / iPAD (I assume this includes warranty) + $200 / content & software license for 3 years. They according to the article are demanding that Apple fix the application, Apple didn't create the application nor does it own the content. They bought 43,261 iPads with the Pearson curriculum and 77,175 without. AFAICT Apple delivered their part. Their problem is the Pearson curriculum.

    I can get that they don't like the app, but at this cost they can just write an app. The whole thing sounds like they don't know how to buy or deploy technology when it comes to a custom solution. Which is potentially understandable for a small district but inexcusable for a $1.3b contract.

  13. Was never going to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This school district was sold swamp land in Nevada... Anyone who works in the education IT industry (I do: And part of that is supporting iPad deployments in education every day) knew there was no way in hell this was going to work. Apple has done a terrible, awful, horrible job of enabling iPads to work in an education environment. They are a complete nightmare to configure, deploy and maintain. If you are going to put these things in a school, just use them for internet browsing and use real computers for everything else. It isn't that they are bad devices for individual users, it's just that the integrate horribly with existing networks. One of the most difficult things is simply accessing data on the network / computer accounts. For example, Apple *still* doesn't support users logging in to their network directories (other than using the incredibly-confusing-for-the-ipad-users and also incredibly buggy WEBDAV functions) and simply opening and saving files to those locations. Upshot? Pages doesn't get used, Keynote doesn't get used... Blah blah blah. It's just a nightmare. Great, wonderful, single-user devices. Horrible, awful devices in terms of multiple-users and network integration.

  14. The previous Slashdot story? by galabar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Can we pull up the previous Slashdot story on this (when they were just starting)? While most folks agreeded that it would fail, it may be useful to recognize those folks that were vehement supporters for this and ridicule them mercilessly. Here's the original article: http://news.slashdot.org/story... Looking through that link, I'm challenged to find even a single supporter.

  15. My school district issues iPads by Thisstatementisfalse · · Score: 2

    My school district has about 5000 students give or take and currently issues iPads to all middle and high school students. The students use their Ipads for virtually all assignments and this is achieved through an app called notability, this works in conjunction with another app called iTunes U which organizes assignments and courses. This program seems to be successful when deployed on a small scale as seen in my school district. However, successfully enacting this program on a scale the size of L.A could prove extremely difficult to say the least.

  16. But the reports say... by Ecuador · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pearson was Apple's subcontractor. Apple was supposed to get $780 out of every ipad (yep, you heard right, retail+ price) and Pearson $200. I haven't seen the contract, but if the various news sources is correct, it is Apple who is basically making the offer by bundling software of their choice...

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  17. Re:I have... by losfromla · · Score: 2

    Yes, but I think in this case it was just plain stupidity. Possibly criminally stupid stupidity. The board is also to blame for abdicating their responsibility to get information from independent sources not just from the "board packet".

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