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LAUSD OKs Girls-Only STEM School, Plans Boys-Only English Language Arts School

theodp writes: Citing statistics that showed a whopping 46 more boys than girls passed the AP Computer Science Exam in 2011-12, the 640,000+ student Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) on Tuesday approved a waiver to enable the District to operate a single-gender, all-girls STEM School called the Girls Academic Leadership Academy (GALA). Students in GALA will follow a six year sequence of computer courses starting in middle school that will culminate in AP Computer Science Principles. "Fewer females take AP courses in math, science, or computer science, and they are not as successful as males in receiving passing scores of 3, 4 or 5," argued the General Waiver Request (PDF, 700+ pages). "An all girls environment is reasonably necessary for the school to improve the self-confidence of girls in their academic abilities, especially in STEM areas where an achievement gap currently exists. GALA's admissions shall also comply with AB 1266 to ensure male students who identify as female are admitted to the school." The school's CS-related Partners include the UCLA Exploring Computer Science Program, as well as Google-bankrolled Girls Who Code, Black Girls Code, and NCWIT. One of the reasons the all-girls STEM school reportedly got the green light is that its backers satisfied federal regulations requiring a "substantially equal school" for excluded male students by submitting a plan for a companion all-boys school that would emphasize English Language Arts, where they often fall short of girls' test scores, rather than GALA's focus on STEM. One suspects the no-fan-of-gender-restricted-public-schools ACLU may call BS on this maneuver.

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  1. I thought we were trying to end sexism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet we are just creating more and more by bullshit like this. Usually it's just for women's benefit, but in this case there's also discrimination against gals too.

    Why can't we just end this bullshit and let children grow up to do want they want to do?

    1. Re:I thought we were trying to end sexism? by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yet we are just creating more and more by bullshit like this. Usually it's just for women's benefit, but in this case there's also discrimination against gals too.

      Why can't we just end this bullshit and let children grow up to do want they want to do?

      Because. This is the sort of shite people with an activist streak get caught up in any more,

      leaving important worries like electing good people to govern us languishing on the back burner.

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    2. Re:I thought we were trying to end sexism? by morgauxo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I thought we were trying to end sexism?"

      Nope! What ever gave you that idea?!?! The only people who have any interest in doing that are the ones who never talk about it. The moment someone talks about it they are obviously trying to tip the scales one way or the other.

      "Why can't we just end this bullshit and let children grow up to do want they want to do?"

      Should I let my daughter chose her school? She is 5, next year will be kindergarten. The school in our district has horrible test scores and we are very concerned. Do you think she has all the knowlege, wisdom and maturity to make that kind of decision herself?

      At Maker Faire last year I came across a booth for our local tech high school. I'm very interested in all things tech myself and would love to see her grow up the same. One of the kids at the booth started talking to me.. he told me how the school was so great because there was no sports art or music stuff. They could spend all day working on "STEM".

      Now I wish everyone would learn more science and technology but hearing this kid go on about how great it was to not have any sports or arts and smiling about it.. I found that rather apalling!

      Balance people! Be a well rounded individual! Otherwise you really are losing out on something great!

      So.. unless she really really wants this... and then.. only after much discussion I don't intend to send her to THAT school!

      So... now in an effort to reduce the imbalances between sexes even more children will be subjected to unbalanced educations.

      Yay progress!

      Then again... from what I remember of going to a 'normal' school.. they were pretty unbalanced already. Mostly towards big reading, writing and social studies programs with stunted science and technology classes. Although.. they seemed to do ok with math.

    3. Re:I thought we were trying to end sexism? by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because - as stated in the summary you just read - that's clearly not working. There is no biological reason for females to not perform as well in these subjects, and as they do not, the workforce is missing out on workers. Those missed workers are clearly a resource that the industry would love to have access to.

      Sometimes to fight fire we use fire, just as sometimes to fight sexism, gender-specific measures are required to restore the balance. Sexism based on unfounded nonsense is detrimental to all involved, whereas constructive sexism intelligently implemented & designed to correct such a situation is beneficial to everyone. Taking a ridiculously black and white position is only going to further sexism.

    4. Re:I thought we were trying to end sexism? by James+Clay · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How do you know that "[t]here is no biological reason for females to not perform as well in these subjects"? Are you asserting that our brains are the same, because I assure you they are not.

    5. Re:I thought we were trying to end sexism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yah, thankfully things are a breeze for skinny math geeks interested in computers at school, jocks were never discouraging. Not to mention how nerds are depicted in movies/TV, nothing to discourage, nope.

    6. Re:I thought we were trying to end sexism? by Squiddie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What a load of bullshit. How are women "discouraged" from anything like that? I take it women who are discouraged by simple words or competitiveness are too stupid, so who gives a shit? I wasn't encouraged when I was young. I actually had to jump through loops to get education in the US, and I paid more for it, and I still got my degree. Maybe women that are already born here should quit whining about being discouraged. You'll find it's mostly people without a degree in the field that whine about it. Maybe they should have taken a major in engineering instead of women's studies.

  2. Only in america by FictionPimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only america could create a society that tells me I should feel bad for finding a career I enjoy in a well paying field.

  3. As well the ACLU should by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This country has fought long and hard to remove segregation and discrimination and it is not acceptable to slide so far backwards. One of the biggest challenges in our future is our failures in education today. Our current trend is that secondary education is becoming more and more female, and believe me, we don't want to deal with the crime and productivity implications of an abundance of under-educated men in our country. Focusing on educating girls is a bad idea. Rather, the focus should be on educating all children. We don't give kids the credit they deserve. They are perfectly capable of choosing their favorite subjects on their own.

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  4. Sexes ARE different, thankfully by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the possible reasons why girls don't get into tech stuff may be peer pressure from other girls before they even graduate from high school.

    Or, maybe, women and men simply aren't the same?

    The anatomy and physiology are demonstrably different. Could those natural differences be having an effect on the interests in life? Feminists would like us to think, all of that is due solely to upbringing, but they offer no evidence — while denouncing detractors as "sexists" themselves.

    Though businesses aren't allowed to discriminate, sports-leagues openly do all the time. A "co-ed" volleyball team, for example, must have at least two females out of six players at all times — because having more males is an advantage. A team showing up with only one woman is penalized one way or the other (see rule 11 of this set, for example), a team showing up for a coed game without any women automatically loses.

    In chess too, for some reason, there are very few female Grandmasters (GMs). It got so embarrassing, a lesser title of Woman Grandmaster (WGM) was introduced... And there are some — but very few (all of them from countries with "traditional" views on gender-roles, BTW).

    Now, I am not going to claim, women are intrinsically "inferior" to men — for a I don't think, the sexes are comparable, nor do they have to compete. We represent the same species. But we are certainly different — and I am not surprised, if the difference is manifested in aptitude for or interest in different carriers and pursuits.

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  5. Re:Feminism ruins society again... by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If my son wants to go to the special programming school, because that's what he's really in to, will he be allowed to? No. And why not? Because he might disrupt the all-girl environment and damage the self-confidence of the girls in the class. "You can't come because boys are icky." How is that not "man-shaming?"

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  6. Re:Appropriate vocational training by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All the janitorial staff in my office are men. Pretty sure men clean toilets, too.

    The point of these social experiments seems to get more and more women into the desk and office jobs. That leaves only the grubby, dirty, outside jobs for men. And nobody gives a shit about that.

    And no, I'm not crying to hold on to some men's only club. On my floor here my technical team is 4 men and 3 women, and our boss is a woman (as are the 2 superiors of hers to whom I report), and ~48/50 of the non-technical desk workers in the cubes outside my office window are women. Which is fine, I love my job and my workplace. So it's not like I'm "scared of teh girls takin' over!" They already have and I'm perfectly okay with that.

    But the "it's so awful, get all the training for girls and ignore boys!" hysteria seems pointless. Girls already dominate the educational system. They will dominate the future workforce. A boy growing up now who didn't have all these special programs will have a tough time competing with the girls who were prepped and trained for this their entire lives, so what else is he going to do? Maybe he'll luck out like my boss's husband. He stays home and takes care of the kids while she works. Lucky bastard.

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