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New Nudge Technology Prods You To Take Action

HughPickens.com writes Natasha Singer reports at the NYT on a new generation of devices whose primary function is to prod people to change. This new category of nudging technology includes "hydration reminder" apps like Waterlogged that exhort people to increase their water consumption; the HAPIfork, a utensil that vibrates and turns on a light indicator when people eat too quickly; and Thync, "neurosignaling" headgear that delivers electrical pulses intended to energize or relax people. "There is this dumbing-down, which assumes people do not want the data, they just want the devices to help them," says Natasha Dow Schüll. "It is not really about self-knowledge anymore. It's the nurselike application of technology." While some self-zapping gizmos may resemble human cattle prods, other devices use more complex cues to encourage people to adopt new behavior. For example, the Muse, a brain-wave monitoring headband, is intended to help people understand their state of mind by playing different sounds depending on whether they are distracted or calm. "Based on what it registers, it plays loud, disruptive wind or waves lapping or, if you are supercalm and you maintain it for a while, you get calm, lovely noises of birds tweeting," says Schüll. "You do learn to calm your mind.

But do the new self-tracking and self-improvement technologies benefit people or just create more anxiety? An article published in The BMJ, a British medical journal, describes healthy people who use self-tracking apps as "young, asymptomatic, middle-class neurotics continuously monitoring their vital signs while they sleep." Dr. Des Spence argues that many health tracking apps encouraged healthy people to unnecessarily record their normal activities and vital signs — turning users into continuously self-monitoring "neurotics." Spence recommends people view these new technologies with skepticism. "The truth is that these apps and devices are untested and unscientific, and they will open the door of uncertainty," says Spence. "Make no mistake: Diagnostic uncertainty ignites extreme anxiety in people."

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  1. Walking advertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    You aren't drinking enough water - Get some Aquafina!

    Your blood sugar is low - Stop by Dunkin Donuts and get a dozen!

    You're not sleeping well - Try some Tylenol PM and you'll sleep well tonight!

    And so on...

    1. Re:Walking advertisements by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      You don't need water reminders for daily life, nor do you need a water bottle. Nor, for the most part, water.

      You get more or less enough from your food alone. "You need to keep hydrated" is a fraud along the lines of valentine's day stuff -- a complete creation of companies.

      Hehe. You pay twice what you pay for pop...for water.

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    2. Re:Walking advertisements by avandesande · · Score: 2

      I went on low carbohydrate food regimen over two years ago and my need for water dropped to almost nothing. I drink some coffee in the morning and maybe a glass of water in the evening. Probably much of this thirst is due to people suffering from diabetes or are pre-diabetic.

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    3. Re:Walking advertisements by davester666 · · Score: 1

      ...only until they start using a cattle prod...

      Unless you are into that sort of thing...

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  2. Uncertainty by The+Rizz · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Make no mistake: Diagnostic uncertainty ignites extreme anxiety in people."

    I am uncertain of his diagnosis of people in this case, and thinking about that is causing me extreme anxiety. Thanks a lot, Spence!

  3. Dreamers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Purchase something that nags me? What are these people smoking?

    1. Re:Dreamers by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      It is actually not a bad idea at all. I suffer from a lack of motivation, so nagging can be really a help when I know I really need to do something.

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    2. Re:Dreamers by doom · · Score: 1

      First I need an app to nudge me to buy these apps.

  4. A market there will be by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Many of us are our own worst enemy.

    We make pledges and promises to better ourselves because we recognize at times, we are our own worst enemy... but we regularly fail at self betterment.

    Unfortunately, it's not difficult at all to win a debate with one's self over whether you deserve that pastry, beverage or morning free of exercise.

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    Ernest Hemingway

    1. Re:A market there will be by itzly · · Score: 1

      It's not difficult at all to win a debate with one's self over whether you deserve that pastry

      Often, there isn't even a debate. That's even easier.

    2. Re:A market there will be by firewrought · · Score: 1

      Watch this: How to stop screwing yourself over (Mel Robbins).

      For habit-building, gold stars on a calendar can work surprisingly well. (I use an Android app called Routinely.)

      Finally /r/GetMotivated has the occasional gem that's worth reading.

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    3. Re:A market there will be by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      gold stars on a calendar can work surprisingly well.

      If you're seven.

  5. Nothing new by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We've had devices that have prodded us to change for decades. From the evil bathroom scale to advertisements through movies, radio, tv, etc. trying to nudge us to change our buying habits..

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    1. Re: Nothing new by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Sure dad, whatever you say.

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  6. Gimmicks ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    This is gimmicks, toys, and other crap ... mostly designed to sell analytics to corporations ... utterlly lacking in scientific merit, and serving no real purpose.

      "young, asymptomatic, middle-class neurotics continuously monitoring their vital signs while they sleep."

    Indeed. Pointless solutions to first world problems.

    No thanks, put down your phone and get out and do something.

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    1. Re:Gimmicks ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Quackery abounds when you want to sell something - Freud's "neurosis" diagnosis doesn't exist.

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  7. It even rhymes by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Electrolytes low? Get Brawndo!

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    1. Re: It even rhymes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's got what plants crave!

  8. Nudge by rossdee · · Score: 2

    Nudge Nudge
    Wink wink
    Say no more

  9. Hydration reminder by itzly · · Score: 2

    Comes built-in. It's called "thirst"

    1. Re:Hydration reminder by drooling-dog · · Score: 1

      > It's called "thirst"

      Is that a new app? Where can I get that?

    2. Re:Hydration reminder by war4peace · · Score: 1

      My body doesn't really understand thirst. I can go all day with not a droplet of ingested water and then all of a sudden realize I'm parched. But I'm fairly sure I would ignore them warnings anyway.

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    3. Re:Hydration reminder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If it was a new app, it would have to be called Therst, Thyrst, or Thrst.

    4. Re:Hydration reminder by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      Bah. It needs to be called Thürst or nobody will take it seriously.

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    5. Re:Hydration reminder by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Exactly. And there's no evidence that drinking more than that has any benefit whatsoever.

      http://www.reuters.com/article...

    6. Re:Hydration reminder by cellocgw · · Score: 2

      If it was a new app, it would have to be called Therst, Thyrst, or Thrst.

      Seems to me that, at least on /. , it needs to be called "Thrist."

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    7. Re:Hydration reminder by danomac · · Score: 1

      I've discovered recently that I've been mistaking thirst for hunger. So now when I think I'm hungry I have a glass of water and wait a half an hour, then if I'm still hungry I eat something. It's pretty amazing, about 3 out of 4 times I'm thirsty, not hungry. Go figure.

  10. If the needle goes beyond here, you will be fired by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    Does that make you feel stressed?" Are You Sure, Are You Sure, Are You Sure, Are You Sure...

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  11. conditionals to change conditionals. by nimbius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We have as a society been conditioned to respond to stimulae. nowhere is this more true than in the United states where advertising is all pervasive and in its goal to sell products, both descructive and deceptive in its employment. Branded drugs should be 'asked about' the next time you go to the doctor, because an elderly couple in clawfoot bathtubs subconsciously promise tranquility and balance. Foods arent high in sodium and fat, theyre "packed with protein" which will help you lose weight, sleep well, and be smarter and healther.

    the easier nudge isnt to create more plastic clip on dongles to rate our restlessness or activity, its to become more accountable on our own terms. Stop tolerating major multinational food companies telling you things are healthy and start independently verifying your consumption. Realize that buy one get one free is just a 50% off sale. Chipotle is just rebranded sugar salt and fat with a nice farm image. Cliff, Kind, Luna, and other 'protein bars' are just candybars with a larger-than-average ad revenue and a clean name. Energy drinks are selling potential in a can of sugar, sodium, and bubbles.

    Looking to consume a product to reign in your product consumption is the very definition of insanity and its only advocated because predatory industries are doing everything they can to keep you from reading a label. So the next time youre at the grocery store remember the most powerful 'take action' fact that no company wants you to understand: 4 grams is 1 teaspoon. Apply that conversion to the sugar salt or fat content in any meal and youll soon realize capitalism wants you fat sick and broke.

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    1. Re:conditionals to change conditionals. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      We have as a society been conditioned to respond to stimulae.

      What else would we respond to?

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  12. Good grief by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    What next? An app to remind you when to eat? Or when to take a dump and how to wipe your arse afterwards?

    Wait, no, pretend you didn't hear that last one. That's my new project.

    Mind you, I can't really talk. I appear to have a faulty sense of thirst. I can tell whether or not I'm thirsty, but only if I think about it, and even if I am it doesn't give me a great urge to drink. I've got into a routine of finishing off a bottle of water every day (and all without any reminders from my phone!), but before then I'd often find myself getting to chapped-lips stage almost without realising.

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    1. Re:Good grief by clonehappy · · Score: 1

      I saw this yesterday: It proves to me that people really are getting stupider at an alarming rate and that the internet as we once knew it is done for. We might as well just pack it all up and go home, boys.

    2. Re:Good grief by edittard · · Score: 1

      I had this idea of taking pieces of bog roll and compressing them like a very lot and enclosing them in a capsule. You'd swallow them at the end of a meal and when you pooped them out they'd burst and expand automatically hygieneise your botty-wotty. I proposed this to some venture capitalists and they turned me down in favour of some website where you post inane details about your life in a vain attempt to appear like you don't have an utterly pointless existence. Who's laughing now, you bastards?

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  13. No thanks by wcrowe · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was married for 20 years. If I want to be nagged again I'll go find another wife...

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  14. small comfort by dwpbike · · Score: 1

    to those of us who are already married

  15. How about this? by djbckr · · Score: 1

    How about something that prods me to stop reading /. all the time?

    1. Re:How about this? by jheath314 · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about something that prods me to stop reading /. all the time?

      Can I interest you in slashdot beta?

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  16. I downloaded one of these nudge apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It kept asking me if my wife was a "goer."

    1. Re:I downloaded one of these nudge apps by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      That's what happens when you are a man of the world.

  17. nudge. by jimbob6 · · Score: 1

    "God damn these electric sex pants!"

  18. Alert Fatigue by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Any system which generates alerts will quickly become an annoyance. That is one of the biggest problems in healthcare applications; too many alerts and the doctors ignore them, not enough alerts and the system is useless. Nobody has found the happy middle ground yet.

  19. Unscientific by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Diagnostic uncertainty ignites extreme anxiety in people

    This is unscientific against unscientific: where are the studies showing these device cause anxiety?