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Comcast and TWC Will Negotiate With Officials To Save Their Merger

An anonymous reader writes with news about Comcast and Time Warner Cable's attempt to keep their proposed merger alive. "Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Cable Inc. are slated to sit down for the first time on Wednesday with Justice Department officials to discuss potential remedies in hopes of keeping their $45.2 billion merger on track, according to people familiar with the matter. The parties haven't met face-to-face to hash out possible concessions in the more than 14 months since the deal was announced. Staffers at both the Justice Department and the Federal Communications Commission remain concerned a combined company would wield too much power in the broadband Internet market and give it unfair competitive leverage against TV channel owners and new market entrants that offer video programming online, said people with knowledge of the review."

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  1. And by negotiate ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do we mean "bribery" or "campaign contributions"?

    This just sounds like a company trying to ensure it gets to have its monopoly and eat our cake too.

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    1. Re:And by negotiate ... by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "bribery" or "campaign contributions"?

      There's a difference?

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    2. Re:And by negotiate ... by Adriax · · Score: 4, Funny

      Depends on the cleanliness of the bathroom stall the cash is slipped under.

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    3. Re: And by negotiate ... by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you or I do it, it's bribery. If a corporation does it, it's lobbying.

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    4. Re:And by negotiate ... by bondsbw · · Score: 4, Funny

      "bribery" or "campaign contributions"?

      There's a difference?

      Of course there is. All campaign contributions are bribery, but only some bribes are campaign contributions.

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    5. Re:And by negotiate ... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That or "agree to concessions that they will only really abide by for a year or two and then will 'forget' about."

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  2. How about... by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...they be denied the right to merge until they've satisfied all lack-of-service complaints within their respective monopolistic areas, fixed their customer service so that it's not abusive, and stop charging exorbitant amounts of money to customers for equipment that they've already depreciated for tax purposes?

    Oh, who am I kidding?

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    1. Re:How about... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bah, the entire purpose for the merger is to be able to do this crap on a larger scale.

      They don't give a crap about customers, they care about corporate profits, executive bonuses, and the price of cocaine and hookers.

      They want to give worse service, and charge even more for it. With even more customers they can sit on their infrastructure for even longer without upgrading it, all while claiming to have cutting edge service.

      Why do you hate America?

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    2. Re:How about... by NormAtHome · · Score: 2

      I like that; and address the "Comcast customer service is the worst anywhere" problem; like people who call and say "I keep getting this 900|bla bla error while watching Game of Thrones on XFinity streaming" and customer service says "Streaming service? What's that?".

    3. Re: How about... by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you are going to dream, dream big. Require them to open up to open their networks to competition!

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    4. Re:How about... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

      There are so many times when I wish "Shibboleet" were a real thing.

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    5. Re:How about... by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hence the technical exam. If you don't pass it, you don't get to speak with tier-2 CSRs unless a tier-1 CSR escalates the call.

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    6. Re:How about... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is true. My in-laws told me they would call Comcast when they had a problem like getting Word to come up on their laptop, my jaw dropped. I have no love for Comcast, but I told them comcrap has nothing to do with an issue like that and to stop abusing their service contract. Older people (60+) seem to have the hardest time grasping the the difference between the concept of the Internet and a local hard drive.. no matter how many times you explain it.

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  3. Since they get to meet w/ the DoJ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does that mean that concerned citizens will also have an opportunity to sit down with the Department of Justice and express their concerns against this merger?

    Seems only fair...

    1. Re:Since they get to meet w/ the DoJ by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is usually a public comment period. That's as close as you're going to get. It's pretty good, though.

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  4. As an executive, maybe i can elaborate. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    To the good-willed officials who find themselves obstructing our annealing:
    By now you no doubt know the awakening, or as you put it the 'merger,' is taking place and there is very little you can do to stop this. Having awakened Cablor, our dead god of a thousand bits per second, with your senseless supplication of the common carrier ritual, we have finally unlocked the 6th chevron of the rune of bundling. When as you no doubt observed the moon eclipsed the sun for its final time, and all stars fell from the heavens in a plague of fire, we were absolute in our resolution to ensure "competitiveness" and "fairness" in our merger as is conforming to the will of the dark demon Abyzou. The flesh, as is noted in subsection 35 chapter 15 of page 666, will be peeled from the bone of so much sorrow and into the pile of meat will the hellmouth feast. However, you've failed to understand that we are acting in good faith, and will continue to offer Comcastic experience, and excellent service. It is our sincerest hope you understand our unstoppable union into a single beast, the beast of Motaja Amoi, will help customers to experience 1080p entertainment and phone service like never before, as well as witness the crown upon bone, and skeleton of dead lords upon throne. In conclusion, we hope you reconsider your futile, child-like attempt to control that which you can never understand.

    Of darkness and desapair,
    Belphegor,
    seductive demon of greed and ruin
    Senior Financial Analyst

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  5. Teddy Rooseveldt and trust busting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh how we need you now Teddy...

  6. Re:Got Fiber? by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They'll be happy to fleece the rest of the 99% of us that don't have fiber. And if the heat gets to be too much, they'll just charge those in single provider areas more and roll out fiber to compete where Google forces their hand, letting everywhere else languish, all the while pointing out that rolling out Gfiber is causing their rates to go up, up, up, and there's nothing they can do about it because the FCC keeps upping their costs through redefining broadband.

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  7. No mutually acceptable options by danaris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would say it's unlikely to the point of ridiculousness that Comcast would ever accept the kinds of restrictions on the merger that would prevent things from getting worse than they are already, let alone start to reverse the merciless devastation of the public interest and regulatory capture that's already happened.

    I think the most likely outcomes of this are the DoJ allowing the merger with some relatively superficial conditions (like the 5-year enforcement of net neutrality regulations that was imposed for the merger with NBC/Universal) or blocking it entirely. Much depends on how much the DoJ people in question actually value their role as regulators, versus their role as toll (aka bribe) collectors.

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  8. Re:Got Fiber? by RatherBeAnonymous · · Score: 2

    How can companies TWC and Comcast continue to thrive?

    You gave me a idea. TWC and Comcast could make an effort to provide reliable Internet connection speeds and cable TV service at reasonable prices, honor their contractual and regulatory obligations, and improve customer support. It's just crazy enough to work!

  9. Re:I'll let them merge... IF... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    I might be willing to say "let them merge" if their merger also meant a split by services rendered.

    Company #1 handles ISP service.
    Company #2 handles TV service.
    Company #3 handles content ownership. (e.g. NBC.)

    I'm not sure where phone and other services fall in that structure, but those three are the important ones. With a breakup like this, you won't have Comcast ISP's monopoly being used to advance Comcast TV's profits.

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  10. Re:TWC by Holi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your inability to understand context must make life very difficult.

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  11. Re:Got Fiber? by gameboyhippo · · Score: 2

    I'm guessing that the fact that Google Fiber exists may strengthen their case to go through with the merger. They may argue that Google demonstrates that it is possible for competitors to pop up.

    Hopefully if they try such an argument, the Justice Department would be wise enough to realize that the only reason Google Fiber can come to KC is that we don't have municipal enforced monopoly on Internet service. Even before Google, we could choose between AT&T, Time Warner, and Comcast.

  12. Re:I'll let them merge... IF... by swb · · Score: 2

    Love the idea, it will never happen.

    The ISP service is mostly a race to the bottom without the ability to manipulate the market via monopoly power, including blocking competition at the local level, extorting content providers you don't own to pay you for service delivery (a second time, really, since you already billed your customer for delivery of bits).

    TV service via cable is a dead business. Streaming is killing it and if Comcast, et al, wasn't choking high speed Internet and restricting content providers from streaming their own content it would be dying even faster. HBO is already escaping this market.

    Content is where the money is, but even there you have to wonder. It doesn't take a whole lot of realignment at the content creation level to leave NBC-Universal in a bidding war with Netflix for new shows. If Netflix or Amazon can come to the production house with the same sized check as a network, why should the show go on a network?

  13. Re:Split the Fckers! by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    Better yet, and less violent, lock the execs in a cell with spotty Internet and a bunch of channels they don't want. Let them watch the World Series, but have the picture and sound go all pixelly and choppy in the 9th inning in a close game.

  14. translation... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really rich guys are getting upset that their plan to become even more rich is being held up.

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  15. Re:IIRC by SCPRedMage · · Score: 2

    Uhh... no. No they're not. Century Link uses DSL and/or fiber optic. They most certainly do NOT resale any form of "cable" (aka cable TV) service.

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  16. Re:I'll let them merge... IF... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    Without the TV service, the ISP service might actually improve speeds and remove caps (which are really designed to make streaming videos expensive).

    Without the ISP service, the TV service might go IP-TV to widen their customer base.

    In fact, if the latter happened, you could cleanly separate the TV portion of the company from the ISP portion.

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  17. Re:Problem with Comcast by KingMotley · · Score: 2

    Perhaps you shouldn't be behind on your bill?