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Old Marconi Patent Inspires Tiny New Gigahertz Antenna

agent elevator writes Gehan Amaratunga and a group of engineers in England noted that the Guglielmo Marconi's famous British patent application from 1900 had an interesting and little noticed detail. It depicted a transmitter linked to an antenna connected to a coil, which had one end dangling while the RF signal was fed to the middle of the coil. That detail inspired them to develop a way to reduce the size of a GHz antenna without significant transmission loss by using dielectrics as the radio wave emitting material instead of conductors.

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  1. die electric! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When asked to comment on his finding, Gohan promptly shouted, "it's over 9,000!".

    1. Re:die electric! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the fuck is Gohan?

    2. Re:die electric! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When asked to comment on his finding, Gohan promptly shouted, "it's over 9,000!".

      Who the fuck is Gohan?

      To the first AC, it was Vegeta not Gohan. To the second AC, here let me Google that for you.

    3. Re:die electric! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To the second AC, here let me Google that for you [lmgtfy.com].

      LOL fail. That link doesn't go anywhere but a page that says "let methat for you [sic]".

      I looked it up on my own and found out it's a cartoon. Now wouldn't it have been easier to just say that?

  2. My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative

    Marconi's connection to the center tap of a coil with one end not connected worked by broken symmetry? Really? It wasn't just a method of tuning a coil to the correct reactance for a particular frequency?

    1. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Gibgezr · · Score: 1

      I agree: it looks like a diagram denoting a tune-able antenna.

    2. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Clearly you missed the bit where they invoked quantum mechanics, surely that explains away all the inaccuracies, like the fact you can already buy chip scale dielectric antennas

    3. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Clearly you missed the bit where they invoked quantum mechanics, surely that explains away all the inaccuracies, like the fact you can already buy chip scale dielectric antennas

      The thing that I really hate about Innovation Stories is that the reporter invariably doesn't understand what's going on, and invariably is easily convinced that The Obviiously Very Technical People have some very valuable invention.

    4. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by JonWan · · Score: 2

      Clearly none of the "Engineers" had a ham license.

    5. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by elgatozorbas · · Score: 2

      I was also a bit surprised by that part. It rather looks like a wave is launched into a piece of dielectric, which then may act like a dielectric waveguide. Somewhat. More or less...
      In any case I can hardly believe that quantum theory is needed to explain the behaviour of antennas. Most surprising, however is to find such clumsy explanation in Spectrum, the flagship journal of the IEEE.

    6. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IEEE Spectrum is usually much better than this. I don't know if it's the author's fault or the researchers'.

    7. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've read the underlying papers: they do not use quantum theory to explain the behavior of antennas.

      "Marconi's connection to the center tap of a coil with one end not connected worked by broken symmetry? Really? It wasn't just a method of tuning a coil to the correct reactance for a particular frequency?"

      Well, of course one purpose was to have a variable inductance, but that's not what's at question.The issue here is why the other end of the coil is not earthed, apparently intentionally.

      The issue about the 'broken symmetry' is somewhat more subtle. The scientists claim to have some insight about a number of observations and engineering techniques which have been long known at a practical level, but perhaps not fully thought through theoretically.

    8. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Marconi's connection to the center tap of a coil with one end not connected worked by broken symmetry? Really? It wasn't just a method of tuning a coil to the correct reactance for a particular frequency?

      TFA is not clear, and you have understandably read into what they wrote. TFA mentions the coil, but does not explicitly state that the coil free end is the asymmetry. A few sentences later they talk about a balanced transmission line (they call it a "ribbon" - it is known as: "twin lead"). In fact the coil is for impedance tuning and it, with the antenna and ground (plane), are the asymmetry.

    9. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's for impedance matching. Also the article is wrong about the "dangling" end. That's grounded, just like Tesla's devices.

      Also we have known how this works for quite some time. It's called "displacement current", and emits a magnetic field just as if there were electrons flowing through a conductor.

    10. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by chuckinator · · Score: 1

      Exactly. That's a multiband antenna system. Change bands, change the tap point. The point they're missing is grounding of the "asymmetric" half of the antenna, and that's to keep a static charge from building in the antenna that'll zap through your electronics (or you) for safety reasons. The center tapped grounded coil feedpoint matching is also less noisy than an inline tuning coil.

    11. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Electrons don't flow through a conductor, energy does. (yeah, drift current but that's not what you meant)

    12. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having skimmed the paper, I'd fault the researchers. Someone is obsessed with "symmetry breaking" and yet it seems the understand little about what it means.

    13. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Electrons don't flow across, but there is a net charge flow through the insulator. It's pulling the dipoles apart when current flows/voltage is applied, which is displacement current. Displacement current emits a magnetic field across the insulator, just like electron current emits a magnetic field when flowing through a conductor. Thus, all of this makes sense with conventional, classical electromagnetic theory.

    14. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

      If the end of the coil that is hanging is grounded (earthed), it becomes an autotransformer. As it's shown, it's a variable inductor and the disconnected end is irrelevant and has no meaningful physical effect at the frequency a spark transmitter could have reached.

      This comment seems to get closer to what they actually mean in their scientific paper. But the article about it is garble and the paper might suffer from second-language issues, and a lack of familiarity with the terms used in RF engineering.

    15. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He probably stole the idea from Nikola Tesla.

    16. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. The nitpick is saying electrons flow evokes the train station image of cars of electrons dropping off their payload. It would be more accurate for layman to visualize the track being a string of electrons and the cars carrying little balls of energy.

    17. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by storkus · · Score: 1

      ...lack of familiarity with the terms used in RF engineering.

      Got beaten to the punch here. I was about to submit this confusing quote from TFA:

      the two-wire ribbons used during televisionâ(TM)s first few decades to send RF signals from rooftop VHF antennas to television sets without any loss. The electric RF current in the two conductors flow in opposite directions and have opposite phase. Because of the translational symmetry (the two conductors are parallel) the radiation fields cancel each other out, so there is no net radiation into space.

      Took a few reads before I finally figured out they were referring to 300-ohm twin lead...

      [digression]Captcha for this is "shudders". Indeed...[/digression]

    18. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Yep. A physicist trying to explain a balanced line to other physicists, without knowing the word for it.

      Haldane would be spinning in his grave.

    19. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      It looks like a ham radio "screwdriver" antenna except miniaturized by a 3-4 orders of magnitude to match the 3-4 orders of magnitude change in wavelength.

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    20. Re:My B.S. Detector is Going Off by HizookRobotics · · Score: 1

      Plus, did you look at their paper....? Link: http://journals.aps.org/prl/pd... I've never seen a more phallic figure (Figure 1c.) in an E&M paper in my life. Some serious editor trolling going on with this paper.

  3. 100 year old news? by gurps_npc · · Score: 2
    So basically, this is a 100 year old invention, that some people just happened to notice today?

    Hey, people I don't know know if you are aware, but if you take a radar unit, drop the receiver and turn up the power, you can cook FOOD on it to!

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    1. Re:100 year old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can it cook macaroni?

    2. Re:100 year old news? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      No, basically, this was INSPIRED by a 100 year old invention. Not quite the same thing.

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    3. Re:100 year old news? by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      Hey, people I don't know know if you are aware, but if you take a radar unit, drop the receiver and turn up the power, you can cook FOOD on it to!

      Really? That's really cool. I guess it's a RadaRange then?

    4. Re:100 year old news? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2

      Excuse me but that sounds entirely implausible. Cooking food with a radar unit? I'll believe it when someone uses one to, say, melt a chocolate bar. Until then keep your loony theories to yourself!

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    5. Re:100 year old news? by Penguinisto · · Score: 0

      Excuse me but that sounds entirely implausible. Cooking food with a radar unit? I'll believe it when someone uses one to, say, melt a chocolate bar. Until then keep your loony theories to yourself!

      Oh, it's quite possible... an APG-66 radar kit (usually parked inside the radome of an F-16 jet fighter) can cook a hot dog placed 2' in front of the pitot tube in very short order once you flip it into active mode. That's why they usually point the jet's nose out somewhere big and empty when they test it, and then make damned sure no one walks within 150' of the jet's front during testing.

      (hint: both the typical radar unit and microwave oven share one core component in common - a magnetron.)

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    6. Re:100 year old news? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1, Redundant

      d'oh! I knew I heard a 'whoosh' somewhere...

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    7. Re:100 year old news? by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      Correct... it wouldn't be wise to point to "prior art" now would it? But inspiration is perfectly fine... really patent officer, that's all it was! Inspiration!

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    8. Re:100 year old news? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was the broiled seagulls and pigeons around old WWII radar installations.....

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  4. Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means that Guglielmo Marconi's hard work was stolen without compensation and he has no incentive to invent anymore. Extends patents to 115 years!

    1. Re: Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd suggest extending the Term to "when 1 divided through the age of the patent yields 0". No politician will realize what this means.

    2. Re: Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd suggest extending the Term to "when 1 divided through the age of the patent yields 0". No politician will realize what this means.

      As long as you intend to use Integer Division, I'm with you!

    3. Re:Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a 90% chance that Tesla should be the one suing anyway.

  5. Inductor? by clifwlkr · · Score: 1

    That sure looks darn similar to the schematic for a variable inductor. You often use inductors to balance the feed on an antenna system (usually paired with capacitors) and would seem to make sense. Otherwise why the arrow in the diagram?

  6. I read that as Macaroni patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I was intrigued. But no, Marconi... that... that makes more sense.

  7. have to admit... by hitmark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read the title as "old macaroni patent" on first glance.

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    1. Re:have to admit... by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Funny

      And it's so ambiguous. Is that a patent on old pasta? a macaroni patent that expired? A patent inscribed on a tube of pasta? patent on fancy 18th century duds?

    2. Re:have to admit... by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Clearly, the patent is for sticking a feather in one's hat.

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  8. Hmm, I guess I invented this as well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After noting all the reference layout information from my chip antenna vendor, I too noticed they kept adding some sort of 'microstrip' trace that went out from the antenna that they said should be tuned. So I added one, it is amazing how well it works to tune it by scratching the trace at different lengths. Damn, I wish I would have patented that and all its quantum magic... Maybe I'll patent those magic inductor and capacitor I put in front, I am calling it a 'dangling symmetric matching circuit'. And IEEE wonders why I won't join them...

    1. Re:Hmm, I guess I invented this as well... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Damn, I wish I would have patented that and all its quantum magic...

      I noticed that my vertical transmitting antenna often works better if I connect a horizontal wire about the same length as the antenna to ground at its base! The wire isn't connected to the transmitting side of the circuit at all! And how well it works varies depending on the length! Obviously there is some deus ex machina at work here...

    2. Re:Hmm, I guess I invented this as well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thank you for all your work!! (love busybox!!)

      BSEE here. I'm impressed that you've experimented and observed the resulting change. Actually your horizontal wire _is_ part of the circuit and is the beginnings of a "ground plane" for the vertical (monopole) antenna. A typical ground plane configuration is either a gridwork of metal, or just 4 horizontal elements in an "X" and yes, you'll get better efficiency. https://teknikelektronikansp.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/picture31.jpg

      Obviously it still works without a good ground plane, it's just less efficient, prone to poor impedance match, and poor SWR (standing wave ratio) which can hurt (fry) a transmitter. Marconi's adjustable coil, aka "load" coil, helps match impedance and reduce SWR, and they're sometimes still used today, or an adjustable (trimmer) capacitor, or both. Monopoles are somewhat omnidirectional- they radiate equally horizontally (pattern looks like a big donut).

      Dipole antennas ("rabbit ears", Yagi, etc.) have more gain (EM radiation efficiency) but are directional and have to be aimed.

    3. Re:Hmm, I guess I invented this as well... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I was being sarcastic. I happen have built more than one counterpoise.

    4. Re:Hmm, I guess I invented this as well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I was being sarcastic. I happen have built more than one counterpoise.

      It's quite alright, I got the sarcasm. The EE in me couldn't help but do some "mansplaining" in case it helps maybe one person. Quite a few comments in this thread reveal the lack of knowledge in these lawn-treaders. What I need to do is go into teaching as I've always wanted to. I just need some $ to buy some more letters after my name...

  9. L-antenna by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assymetric- is this about the L-antenna?

  10. What range of frequencies are potentially viable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the range of this? does this span up to 2.4ghz or is GPS just barely in reach somehow?

  11. Pompously ridiculous article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maxwell’s equations explain how high-frequency flows of electrons in conductors generate electromagnetic waves, but they do not explain how an insulating material, where there is no flow of electrons, would also act as an antenna.

    Uh, the Maxwell equations are perfectly fine for explaining how an isolator/dielectric will generate electromagnetic fields. In fact, the magnetic fields around "displacement currents" like the shifting electric field between capacitor plates are by far the more important part of the Maxwell equations as opposed to the "flow of electron" component since without the displacement current, there would be no electromagnetic wave propagation in the first place.

    It looks like the article author fantasized some layman's level explanation of the underlying theory into some fundamental discovery. Probably the actual engineers are embarrassed beyond belief by this nonsense.

  12. Marconi stole from Tesla.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marconi, was a thief. He stole almost all his ideas from Tesla. Maybe this belongs to Tesla too.

    1. Re:Marconi stole from Tesla.... by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      And others... like Mahlon Loomis http://www.smecc.org/mhlon_loo...
      Marconi was an inventor and managed to get his device into the hands of others, but he wasn't the first.

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  13. Maxwell's equations fail? by wbean · · Score: 2

    Tech reporters should be licensed. I seriously doubt that Maxwell's equations are failing: "Maxwell’s equations explain how high-frequency flows of electrons in conductors generate electromagnetic waves, but they do not explain how an insulating material, where there is no flow of electrons, would also act as an antenna."

    1. Re:Maxwell's equations fail? by Ghostworks · · Score: 1

      It's especially sad to see this from an IEEE publication (even spectrum).

      First, the major unifying concept in Maxwell's equation was the displacement current, a quantity for the changing field in a dielectric with units as current density. This answers the age-old question, "how do you have a current circuit when one part (a capacitor) is clearly 'broken' and not conducting?" Maxwell was the first to answer the question with a solid theory. So a better way to write the sentence you quote would be, "Maxwell’s equations explain how high-frequency flows of electrons in conductors generate electromagnetic waves, and they were also the very first to explain how an insulating material, where there is no flow of electrons, would also act in a circuit" Basic electromagnetics education fail.

      Second and more to the topic: if we pretend that there is some sort of "magneto current carrier" (a magneton), then we can extend Maxwell's equations to cover a hypothetical magneto current. Pretty much any electric current-flow problem can be re-stated as a dual magneto current-flow problem. There are a lot of practical upshots to this -- such as making simulations that converge to answer much more quickly -- but the one most related to antennas is that you can demonstrate that the radiation of an antenna is related to the conduction gap between it's elements. For example, if you have a dipole antenna with elements separated by width d, then you can also model that as a "cigar band" (open cylindrical sheet) of magneto current. For a molopole, you might use a "washer" (flat cylindrical ring) of magneto current between the conducting element and the ground plane. This is not new. It's been used for decades. This is the shortcut to the concept that's been known for decades. You do not need recourse to any concepts in quantum mechanics.

    2. Re:Maxwell's equations fail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of it as being more like a quartz crystal acting as an LC circuit with minimal resistive losses, and it laid out in such a way the the field from the currents flow tend to radiate. (crystal/ceramic/piezo filters tend to be laid out in ways that minimize radiation to keep losses down)

      Radio frequency current can flow in a capacitor, so why not a crystal, right?

      Can I make a rock-candy FM antenna? Lick it to tune up the band.

    3. Re:Maxwell's equations fail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tech reporters should be licensed. I seriously doubt that Maxwell's equations are failing:

      "Maxwell’s equations explain how high-frequency flows of electrons in conductors generate electromagnetic waves, but they do not explain how an insulating material, where there is no flow of electrons, would also act as an antenna."

      They don't. In fact, IEEE Press has a terrific collection of 50 year old books that describe dielectrics and Maxwell's equations. This is basically buzzfeed leaking into what is supposed to be the least respected part of a respected source. Sadly though, the overall quality of IEEE journals has been declining over the last few decades, so you can't expect their less rigorous publications to be worth much.

    4. Re:Maxwell's equations fail? by Kim0 · · Score: 1

      "Lens" is the common name for an antenna made of insulating material.

  14. A load of BS by stooo · · Score: 1

    The patent detail has nothing to do with the subject. It's a variable coil that's depicted, signalized by the arrow cursor ( like a potentiometer, but a coil)
    The article is marketing wank.

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  15. IEEE is a rotten paywall by stooo · · Score: 1

    IEEE is a rotten paywall and should be abolished.

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  16. Sounds like BS, but I think the writer screwed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes, Marconi simply provided for varying the inductance. At low frequencies some floating turns have little effect. The coil is physically short in terms of wavelength and there isn't enough stray capacitance to get much resonant or non-resonant current flow through the floating leg.

    In some cases people actually short out turns they don't want. That's seen mostly with silver-plated coils in transmitters, where resistance losses associated with the resulting circulating current are sufficiently low. The field from circulating current in the shorted section opposes that of the main section so it helps to reduce the inductance even more than just having fewer active turns would.

    They were apparently inspired to try something based on what they thought they saw, but whoever wrote the story at least doesn't have a understanding of Marconi's circuit, the properties of 300 Ohm twin-lead, and maybe not even the requirements for a real-world tv antenna.

    It could be that the material they're using conducts at the frequencies of interest exactly as a capacitor does, and with similar current distribution and length it would still have the inductive/radiating properties of a metallic antenna element as well.

    If they are using a piezoelectric material near a resonant frequency, the behavior become more like Marconi's entire circuit, with the current through the length radiating from its magnetic field as with a normal antenna, but perhaps achieving the desired low input impedance without having to be near a quarter wavelength long.

    Similar properties have been used before in "SAW" (surface acoustic wave) filters which were common in the later analog television sets, but those were not intended to use electromagnetic radiation from the fields associated with internal currents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    SAW filters emulate a complex RC filter network that typically not only has a well controlled bandpass characteristic several megahertz wide for the desired signal, but deep notches (rejection) at key frequencies off both channel edges to avoid interference from the adjacent channels. Like the "super-heterodyne" AM receivers that RCA held Armstrong patents on nearly 100 years ago, filtering is done in a fixed frequencies (around 40 MHz for the SAW tv "intermediate-frequency filters). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Channel selection is done by mixing the incoming signals with that of the internal tuning oscillator, the difference-frequency product being the desired signal shifted down in frequency to pass through the filter. To produce the difference frequency product, the mixer can't just add signals, some non-linearity is needed. A circuit producing the product of the inputs actually works best. That's actually much simpler than it sounds, and has the advantage of avoiding the need to retune a complex filter for each desired signal.
    SAW filters eliminated many tuned circuits and the need to manually align them in television sets. TV signals not only needed precise control of the frequency response, but the right time-delay versus frequency characteristic as well to avoid horizontal smearing in video. The broadcast NTSC signals were a variation of amplitude modulation where part of one of the sidebands is filtered out to save bandwidth. That introduced non-uniform time delays in the broadcast signal that had to be inversely compensated for in the receiver or the color would be off the right of the monochrome part of the picture etc.

    While it is a cute trick to get a tiny antenna resonant and at a workable impedance at well below normal length, it is likely to be of relatively narrow bandwidth (fine for phones but not ordinary tv), and a smaller antenna will capture less receive energy even if the transmit efficiency is fair. Of course cell sites do put out more power than the mobile devices, so a slightly inferior receiver on the mobile side can still be adequate.

  17. It looks like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a base-loaded whip antenna?

  18. Wonder where he stole that idea from. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Didn't Marconi steal the notebook of Jagdish Chandra Bose and came up with the idea of the "coherer"? So wonder where he pinched this idea from.

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    1. Re:Wonder where he stole that idea from. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, no. Marconi used Tesla's patents. Tesla won a copyright case in 1943, I think it was, wherin it was found that Tesla's patents preceeded Marconi's by a significant amount of time.

  19. Re:Sounds like BS, but I think the writer screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take back part of what I said about them not understanding twin-lead. The physical and drive-signal symmetry with twin-lead, or lack of it in a region of something constructed like a SAW filter, can control which area is radiating the signal.

    It's easy to be tripped up by some of the wording in the article, like "converted to electro-magentic radiation". It's not really conversion in the usual sense, it's shifting the layout in a way that increases radiation efficiency by avoiding use of the (balanced out of phase) topography that tends to canceling it. 60% radiation efficiency is pretty impressive considering what's involved. Hopefully the crystal won't crack if phones are dropped.

  20. Counterpoise by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

    The point they're missing is grounding of the "asymmetric" half of the antenna, and that's to keep a static charge from building in the antenna that'll zap through your electronics (or you) for safety reasons.

    Sometimes. But you're missing what a Counterpoise does.

    1. Re:Counterpoise by chuckinator · · Score: 1

      That is a good point, but I'm not sure how well it would work over standard fractional wavelength radials on larger systems. The Marconi drawing has lighting and static charge protection from the grounded side of the voltage transformer that's being fed from the transmitter. It could be very useful for space conscious form factors, and I don't know anyone that wants a radial and whip system for a cell phone.

      From Marconi's drawing, it looks more like use of a coil as either a resonant stub or shorted stub being directly fed to a phasing coil that is being fed from a voltage balun from the tank oscillator. It's a little different than traditional ones since it's wound into a coil, though.

      Since shorted stub filters are inductive in nature, they typically broaden the bandwidth of the capacitive mono-pole element. Those are pretty interesting microwave tricks, but winding a stub into a coil may reduce material and size requirements where space is at a premium. It's probably a sacrifice on bandwidth of the system with the tradeoff that the stub would probably contain the RF to the center of the inductor. Maybe there's something more I'm missing here.

      Well, beyond the theory, it kinda looks like a curly-que J-pole to me

  21. What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thomas Edison didn't patent it so merkins can claim they invented it?

  22. Was this Marconi's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or the work he stole from Tesla\?

  23. Re:Sounds like BS, but I think the writer screwed by unitron · · Score: 1

    Did you just describe IF Strips without using the term?

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