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Netflix Is Betting On Exclusive Programming

An anonymous reader writes: You may have heard of the recent launch of the new Daredevil TV show, and possibly the hit shows House of Cards and Orange is the New Black. They're all original programming from Netflix — the company that used to just mail DVDs to your door. But Netflix is now running a lot more than just those three shows — it has 320 hours of original programming planned for this year. This article discusses how Netflix is betting big on original, exclusive content, and what that means for the future of television. "Traditionally, television networks needed to stand for something to carve out an audience, he said, whereas the Internet allows brands to mean different things to different people because the service can be personalized for individual viewers. That means that for a conservative Christian family, Netflix should stand for wholesome entertainment, and, for a 20-year-old New York college student, it should be much more on the edge, he said.... 'We've had 80 years of linear TV, and it's been amazing, and in its day the fax machine was amazing,' he said. "The next 20 years will be this transformation from linear TV to Internet TV.'"

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  1. Giving the customers what they want by uolamer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Excellent shows, commercial free, on demand, released one season at a time. At the same time I have watched some networks take a 30 minute time slot show and reduce the actual show from around 21-22 minutes to 17-18 minutes, making more time for commercials. I'll sit on my couch with my potato chips and watch the demise of network TV with delight.

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    1. Re:Giving the customers what they want by Linsaran · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yup, I'm all in on the Netflix bandwagon. It, along with other streaming services (I'm a huge anime fan so Crunchyroll is in that list) are all I watch these days.

      On the other hand I hope Hulu dies in a fire. I'm ok with watching ads to pay for my TV, and I have no problem with paying for a service to stream TV. I do however have an issue with paying a service to stream TV and still having to watch ads. Hulu+ is a joke of a service being managed by the same corporate assholes who made me leave cable in the first place. Netflix just beats out Hulu in terms of where you can use it (just about every possible device runs Netflix, while there's a lot that won't handle Hulu+) Heck even Amazon Prime is beating Hulu in terms of devices I see which support it. I hope the Hulu people figure their shit out eventually since there's a handful of shows I would watch (like South Park) if they had a reasonable streaming service that didn't try to double dip with both ads and subscriptions.

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    2. Re:Giving the customers what they want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I largely agree, but I'm not sold on the full season release part. It pretty much ruins any opportunity to discuss the show with friends or online communities.

    3. Re:Giving the customers what they want by TheGavster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While Netflix's distribution model and show quality make it a locally good thing, I think that in the larger scheme, having content production and content distribution tied together will ultimately continue the problems that the current system has. While some of this content is available through other distributors, they always have an incentive to give preferential treatment to their own distributor. I doubt we'll ever see House of Cards on Hulu Plus, for example.

      Aside from having to subscribe to several services to hit all of the content that you're interested in, you also have the cases where, like HBO, they have conditions on subscribing and draconian restrictions on what devices they allow playback on (eg, until a couple of years ago, Android playback was locked out if you had an external display connected)

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    4. Re:Giving the customers what they want by Your.Master · · Score: 2

      I don't quite get that objection. It's not like it's particularly new. Magazines and newspapers were subscription-based and full of ads, for instance.

      Mind you I choose to only watch Hulu and not pay for Hulu plus. Netflix is already the best and I have Amazon Prime because it comes with ancillary benefits. The benefits from Hulu Plus that I don't get some other way are too small.

    5. Re:Giving the customers what they want by Your.Master · · Score: 2

      I talk about movies with friends weeks after they are released. We don't usually all go the every movie in absolute sync.

      A full season of TV released at once is like a super-movie.

      I kind of get what you're saying, but I don't think it's worth it, nor do I think it really eliminates it. After all, A Song of Ice and Fire came out a book at a time. A whole series worth of content. And then it takes years to get the next book. He had forums dedicated to speculation too. It's still serialized, it's just bigger chunks coming in slower. On the other hand, in the past, some things published as novels now were kind of just collected magazine serial stories edited together.

      The flip side is that they *could* release 5 minutes every day until the season is done. I think most agree that's too little at a time and would probably only watch when the slow drip of content reached a certain threshold.

      I greatly prefer watching the whole season at once. In fact I often intentionally delay watching real world TV until I can binge-watch it.

  2. Daredevil... by msauve · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sorry if this offends comic fans, but Daredevil is meh. Reasonable plot/character development, interrupted by extended punchfests reminiscent of '60's Batman Pow! Blam! Zowie! kitsch.

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    1. Re:Daredevil... by slinches · · Score: 2

      I watched it and generally agree, but I'd still rank it significantly above average. "meh" is far more positive than what I could say for most current traditional TV shows.

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    2. Re:Daredevil... by mikeabbott420 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I loved the portrayal of Fisk, along with Foggy I thought they picked out some of my favorite parts from the various versions I've read. Fisk's somewhat humanizing love for Vanessa and Foggy being more than a dimwitted comic relief.

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    3. Re:Daredevil... by Willuz · · Score: 2

      extended punchfests reminiscent of '60's Batman Pow! Blam! Zowie! kitsch

      I'm glad you said this. I have actually found myself fast forwarding many shows lately while making the batman kerPOW sounds out loud. Agents of Shield is the worst about this and I'm on the verge of not watching it anymore. Comic book movies got popular again because Joss Whedon knows how to write dialog and emphasize characters. In most of his work the fight scenes are used the emphasize the emotions behind the dialog that continues throughout the scene. Other directors have misunderstood why Avengers is so popular and are just spitting out boring martial arts scenes with shallow representations of beloved characters.

  3. Re:Is this an advertisement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is news. Between Netflix and Amazon developing their own shows, and HBO converging to the same market from the other side by launching a standalone streaming service, it's increasingly clear that we're in the middle of a major shift in television.

    It's not a single, discrete event, but few truly important stories are.

  4. Lets be frank by ADRA · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're a company that wants to stay in business. TV's about as locked in as can be and even they're draining audiences in one form or another. The internet is an amazing levelling field, and even if terrestrial TV packed up and quit tomorrow, there'd be no firm reason NetFlix alone would dominate the internet markets. They're playing the same game by locking up good content behuind their platform so that if/when the sh hits the fan, they'll have something to keep loyal customers paying well for their services.

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    1. Re:Lets be frank by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They're a company that wants to stay in business. TV's about as locked in as can be and even they're draining audiences in one form or another. The internet is an amazing levelling field, and even if terrestrial TV packed up and quit tomorrow, there'd be no firm reason NetFlix alone would dominate the internet markets. They're playing the same game by locking up good content behuind their platform so that if/when the sh hits the fan, they'll have something to keep loyal customers paying well for their services.

      Er, so?

      Yes, on a broad scale to get quality TV, it will still be made by people who make money off of it. It should be a relief that someone can still do that, not a bad thing.

  5. Re:They should resurrect some shows... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should un-cancel Better Off Ted. That lie detector scene was priceless and that fake Veridian ad about friendship was really spot-on.

    Deal with it!

  6. Re:Original? by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's fucking Kevin Spacey. You shut your whore mouth!

  7. Re:Is this an advertisement? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    Between the disruption of well established television model, the impressive evolution of the capabilities of the internet, and the recent decision on Net Neutrality I'm convinced you're trying to sound smart by being contrarian.

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  8. Every Dog's Day by JimSadler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    NetFlix is wonderful. Every dog has its day and back when theaters were being crushed by cable and over the air stations were dropping like flies the cable industry could have cared less. Now cable TV is in serious trouble with no way to fight back except the one very obvious way. NetFlix delivers a ton of entertainment for $8. per month. Hint to cable : Deliver more for $8 than Netflix instead of charging hundreds per month.

    1. Re:Every Dog's Day by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hint to cable : Deliver more for $8 than Netflix instead of charging hundreds per month.

      Like US car companies, it is very hard to admit when the fat years are over. Give them time; I suspect they will come around a bit.

    2. Re:Every Dog's Day by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      Cable TV can't lower their bills much -- the licensing fees for the premium cable networks are spiraling out of control.

      Netflix doesn't have the money to license cable networks like Starz. Netflix philosophy is "if we can't afford to license the content, we'll simply make our own." They really don't have much of a choice.

      Cable TV isn't in any trouble (yet). They have a near monopoly on content.

  9. Golddiggers of 1933, Out of the Past by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's probably a good thing that companies like Netflix are making good original programming, but I've noticed that their catalog of classic films has shrunk significantly.

    What I really want is a service like Netflix that is more Spotify-like, with an enormous catalog of old films, classic foreign films, art films, shorts, animation, etc.

    I guess the fact that copyright trolls are scrambling to take old movies out of the public domain and congress has seen fit to extend copyright to ridiculous lengths makes that a problem. So even though I subscribe to Netflix, I find myself looking to torrent sites and the Internet Archive to scratch my film noir, King Vidor, Vittorio De Sica and Busby Berkely itch. Because sometimes Jack Lemmon and Catherine Deneuve in "The April Fools" or Lee J Cobb in John Boorman's "Point Blank" is just what the movie doctor ordered. Sometimes, a creepy-as-hell Richard Widmark in the 1953 Sam Fuller classic, "Pickup on South Street" is preferable to watching Ryan Gosling try to create an expression on his face.

    Hell, a little while ago, I just wanted to sit back and enjoy the 1973 blaxploitation classic, "The Mack" and learned that Netflix doesn't have it available for streaming (but you can get a DVD if you still use that legacy format). I mean, what the fuck. Who's gonna mess with physical media and snail mail just to watch a movie? Not only that, but they don't carry "Trouble Man" at all, and that has one of the greatest soundtracks ever by Curtis Mayfield.

    In case you aren't familiar with cinematic masterpiece "The Mack", here's the scene where Goldy and Pretty Tony face off. Check the very young Richard Pryor: https://youtu.be/sdR_t5nsZqI

    I'm spoiled because back in my university days, I worked as a projectionist at a revival house for seven years and got the most thorough education in film history one could ever hope for. But some of you younger folks might not know what came before The Avengers and Fast and Furious 7, and that makes me sad. Hell, the 1970s were a veritable golden age for independent films and hardly anybody gets to see those movies today. Even the "classic movie" channels on cable only play the same top forty old movies over and over again, never digging deep into back catalogs. There is so much cinema to be discovered. Don't fear the black and white or silent.

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    1. Re:Golddiggers of 1933, Out of the Past by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Oh shit. I just realized I made a grievous error, in attributing the "Trouble Man" soundtrack to Curtis Mayfield instead of its true creator, Marvin Gaye. Curtis Mayfield did the soundtrack for "Superfly" (which by the way, is also unavailable to stream from Netflix, those bastards). If you are unfamiliar with the Trouble Man soundtrack, go check it out on Youtube right now. You will come away understanding why Pharrell Williams is a punk ripoff.

      I just stuck myself in the leg with a pen knife to atone for this terrible mis-attribution.

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    2. Re:Golddiggers of 1933, Out of the Past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I made a grievous error, in attributing the "Trouble Man" soundtrack to Curtis Mayfield instead of its true creator, Marvin Gaye.

      I don't think anyone actually noticed.

  10. Re:This is an effective strategy... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    When net neutrality splits the Comcast network from the Comcast/NBC/Universal content, and Netflix has to compete for bandwidth on a level playing field, the money to create original content is going to dry up quickly.

    Don't you have that exactly backwards? "Net Neutrality" has been the default. The new neutrality laws don't create a level playing field, they preserve it. Why would Net Neutrality and having Comcast separated from the content creators make it harder for Netflix? They're already paying for bandwidth. And Netflix users are already paying for bandwidth. And with the incestuous relationship severed, what would Comcast's incentive to screw with Netflix be?

    Or do you believe we've reached peak bandwidth?

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  11. Online blackouts by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the only TV I watch anymore is Netflix and Amazon.

    That's fine for people who don't watch live political news (CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, C-SPAN) or live sports. Because the leagues still sell exclusive rights to particular matches to traditional TV networks, the leagues' streaming subscription services black out any match shown on broadcast, cable, or satellite TV in your area

    1. Re:Online blackouts by sinij · · Score: 2

      Why would any sane, rational individual want to watch live political news? It is all spin and FUD.

  12. Re:$30 per month by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think they're getting that much for the ads. After all, netflix manages to offer ad-free stuff for $8/month, same as Hulu+. It's probably closer to the difference between $8/month and $12.

    I think the ultimate reason Netflix is creating it's own content is that the more content it controls, the more influence it has over the other media copyright holders. If Netflix can legitimately argue that if copyright holder X doesn't play ball, that it's average subscriber won't sign up to site Y for $Z revenue because the subscribers will simply watch something else, such as one of Netflix's exclusive shows, then they're leaving money on the table, and they don't like doing that.

    Sort of like a backwards HBO. HBO does great shows, but are really exclusive about them. If you want to see Netflix's shows, you have to sign up, but it's not nearly as expensive as a cable package + HBO.

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  13. Re:Original? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    House of Cards is a remake of a British TV series from the 90s. And this isn't the first Daredevil offering either.

    You know this, but I'll point out that they mean "original" as in content not produced by a different company. The actual script does not need to be new in any way at all to qualify as original material.

  14. Re:$30 per month by tepples · · Score: 2

    Netflix would answer thus: "Show older shows so you don't have to pay as much in royalties."

  15. Re:BoredDevil by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    Though I happen to like Daredevil, I definitely WOULDN'T recommend it for children. At least, not younger children. There's a large amount of bloodshed that even the Marvel movies don't have. Without getting too spoilery, the Fisk "car scene" in Episode 4 alone would make this not for kids.

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  16. Re:$30 per month by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think they're getting that much for the ads. After all, netflix manages to offer ad-free stuff for $8/month, same as Hulu+. It's probably closer to the difference between $8/month and $12.

    I think the ultimate reason Netflix is creating it's own content is that the more content it controls, the more influence it has over the other media copyright holders. If Netflix can legitimately argue that if copyright holder X doesn't play ball, that it's average subscriber won't sign up to site Y for $Z revenue because the subscribers will simply watch something else, such as one of Netflix's exclusive shows, then they're leaving money on the table, and they don't like doing that.

    Sort of like a backwards HBO. HBO does great shows, but are really exclusive about them. If you want to see Netflix's shows, you have to sign up, but it's not nearly as expensive as a cable package + HBO.

    Hulu however has current TV a day later. Netflix doesn't get it for months. Hulu's also sponsored by the content networks who are trying to basically regain their ad revenue.

    Netflix is creating original content because it can - its business model depends on subscribers and growing that subscriber base. Showing unlimited movies that have been out for months, or TV seasons that everyone else has seen months ago doesn't grow subscribers, especially since OTA TV will get them for free too, just on a less convenient schedule.

    Instead, Netflix has to basically create content or inherit content that the networks can't justify carrying so subscribers have something new to watch.

    Hulu, Amazon, iTunes, etc., they get the latest TV within hours of airing which is why they generally cost more because their first-run. Netflix picks up the rest.

    In the lifecycle of a movie, it first comes out in theatres. Then it comes out as a digital rental (CinemaNow, Vudu, etc). Then it comes out as purchase - either digital (iTunes, Ultraviolet, etc) or physical (DVD/Blu-Ray). Then general rentals, then Netflix, and finally, regular free TV. This takes around a year or two to fully execute.

    The lifecycle for a TV program is first airing, then digital sales (Amazon, iTunes), and Hulu. Then months later, season box sets on DVD, and Netflix.

    If you're not fussy about waiting, Netflix is a great service. Most people though can't wait that long for their TV, so there are options. And Netflix knows once they have the people who don't care or who don't mind waiting, their subscriber base is saturated. They need to have new content to attract new subscribers who may not watch much of the catalog, but will catch the exclusives and pay for it.

  17. Wholesome? by StikyPad · · Score: 2

    I take issue with the idea that conservative entertainment is inherently any more "wholesome" than any other. Conservatives aren't the authority on morals, at least not the sole authority, as much as they would like us to believe that they are.